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The Shame Boy posted:That and considering it was originally on the Wii back in 2010? Not a ton of choices I got incredibly lucky in that regard. When it looked like Nintendo was never going to bring Xenoblade stateside, I bought a PAL copy of it from a seller on eBay and it worked out after the exchange rates that I paid like $50-$60 for it, well below what the NTSC version of Xenoblade ultimately MRSP'd for when it finally came here. I think I paid more for the secondhand Wii I used for the softmodding processes because I didn't want to brick my main one in case I hosed up.
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nine-gear crow posted:Yes*. At the very core of it, there's basically zero daylight between what Egil actually wants for the world and what Shulk, Mayneth, and the rest of the party do too. The thing that complicates matters is that Egil is the victim of trauma and betrayal, and that trauma poisoned his outlook and he dealt with it in incredibly unhealthy and destructive ways. He came up with his plan to try and starve Zanza to death of ether because he wanted revenge and was traumatized into mistakenly thinking that all beings born of Zanza inherently shared Zanza's will and desires, thus imagining the peoples of Bionis into an enemy that never actually existed. How I figured it, it was that Egil didn't have any animosity toward the people of Bionis, just that he saw their deaths as a necessary sacrifice in order to starve out Zanza. Shulk makes him realize that oh hey maybe the people of Bionis will want Zanza dead as much as I do if they see what a raging cocksucker he is, and we can work together! nine-gear crow posted:I got incredibly lucky in that regard. When it looked like Nintendo was never going to bring Xenoblade stateside, I bought a PAL copy of it from a seller on eBay and it worked out after the exchange rates that I paid like $50-$60 for it, well below what the NTSC version of Xenoblade ultimately MRSP'd for when it finally came here. I think I paid more for the secondhand Wii I used for the softmodding processes because I didn't want to brick my main one in case I hosed up. I cottoned to this game thanks to the drumming up of awareness that went on when the game was finally coming Stateside. I pre-ordered a copy at GameStop thanks to all the positive buzz, so I only had to pay MSRP for it and didn't even have to figure out how to mod my Wii. 
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I never owned a Wii copy of the game, because I never owned a Wii. I played a friend's copy for a while one year at MagFest, and decided I liked the game enough, though. I picked up a copy of the 3DS version when I got a New 3DS a handful of years ago. My playthrough on that stalled out around Eryth Sea/Alcamoth. Then I picked up Definitive for my birthday last year and the Casual mode and better quest markers really helped me get through it.
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nine-gear crow posted:If the peoples of Bionis had listened to Egil's warning about Zanza, and Egil had listened to the Homs/ect.'s desire to live in peace everyone could probably have come up with a way to deal with Zanza by working together, but then again you don't get a story that way... I don't think he actually tried to warn people about Zanza, considering the High Entia tried sealing Zanza on Prison Island, the Monado inside a glacier and the whole point of Melia is that she's the result of generations of deliberate Homs marriage to try and breed the Telethia gene out of their race. I think the emperors would have been very receptive to Egil's "death to Zanza" newsletter. Alternatively, what might have happened is that the High Entia thought killing Zanza was impossible and settled for sealing him, causing Egil to sever communications and start his insane plan in a desperate bid to murder the fucker. Ultimately the game is very light on information on what the gently caress happened in the previous war between Zanza and Meyneth, how the fucker got stopped and sealed in the first place and by who. You'd assume Miguel or Meyneth would know about Zanza and what he could do but nope. Meyneth genuinely thought she killed him back in Prison Island. Still 100% agree that Egil was warped by the betrayal and his desire to deliver justice unto Zanza. I think the biggest indictment against him, and what gave him his "I'm the baddie" realization seconds before Shulk got Dickson'd, is that he ended up treating the people of Bionis exactly the same way Zanza does: as tools to be used and discarded at will.
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If Zanza is the Demiurge then who is the real God?
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White Coke posted:If Zanza is the Demiurge then who is the real God? Nopon sage not really
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White Coke posted:If Zanza is the Demiurge then who is the real God? It's... open to interpretation, I'm just gonna say that much. But we're like probably 20 videos away from there yet, depending on how long Argate wants to keep torturing us with side quests.
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nine-gear crow posted:It's... open to interpretation, I'm just gonna say that much. But we're like probably 20 videos away from there yet, depending on how long Argate wants to keep torturing us with side quests. Hey now, its more like 14-15! Credits are rolling on episode 72
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nine-gear crow posted:It's... open to interpretation, I'm just gonna say that much. But we're like probably 20 videos away from there yet, depending on how long Argate wants to keep torturing us with side quests. Looking forward to it. Gnosticism is more than just "God is evil".
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I noticed just now. Does the game really record which outfits Shulk and party had during cutscenes so it can show the same ones during flashbacks?
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Omobono posted:I noticed just now. Does the game really record which outfits Shulk and party had during cutscenes so it can show the same ones during flashbacks? Yes. It was doing that on Wii, too!
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Yay, I got a shoutout!  It was fortunate that I happened to be at the exact part of the game where I could record that bit, when I learned about it... and also that I had the means to record it.
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Is it me, or is the game's audio mixing way off in this episode? The music was much louder than the people talking at certain points, like when Dunban is reassuring Melia about having to fight her people.
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AradoBalanga posted:Is it me, or is the game's audio mixing way off in this episode? The music was much louder than the people talking at certain points, like when Dunban is reassuring Melia about having to fight her people. The game's audio mix is kinda bad at some points. I know there's definitely been moments where I just kinda thought that I couldn't hear anyone talking over the music.
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Wait was Dickson saying Zanza or Kallian could be Melia's boyfriend in another life because uuuuuhhh
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The Shame Boy posted:Wait was Dickson saying Zanza or Kallian could be Melia's boyfriend in another life because uuuuuhhh Yes, Dickson was intentionally going with the grosser option because he’s a loving rear end in a top hat troll.
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ChaosArgate posted:The game's audio mix is kinda bad at some points. I know there's definitely been moments where I just kinda thought that I couldn't hear anyone talking over the music.
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We just recorded something about an hour ago that has fundamentally reshaped our collective understanding about this game and the story it is trying to tell 
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nine-gear crow posted:We just recorded something about an hour ago that has fundamentally reshaped our collective understanding about this game and the story it is trying to tell 
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Invest. In. Bitcoin.
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nine-gear crow posted:We just recorded something about an hour ago that has fundamentally reshaped our collective understanding about this game and the story it is trying to tell Ah, you passed the point of no return? 
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Zopotantor posted:WTF CATSUIT MELIA?!? Yep, Melia gets to be a 2-tailed catgirl in the orion armor look. Anyway, that scene with Fiora telling Melia to go ahead and gently caress Shulk if she ends up dying is kinda hilarious in a way. I ended up interpreting the scene as "I like you, you can gently caress my boyfriend if I die!" for some reason when I played through xenoblade.
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Zopotantor posted:WTF CATSUIT MELIA?!? You can blame the silly outfit on me. I ran around with cat costume Melia for awhile because I thought it was funny, and that was the outfit she happened to be wearing when I reached that point in the game. I didn't change it, because again- I thought it was funny.
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nine-gear crow posted:We just recorded something about an hour ago that has fundamentally reshaped our collective understanding about this game and the story it is trying to tell Is it related to the strange background which we saw in the latest episode posted (and a little earlier as well)?
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Ya'll are gonna be extremely disappointed when you find out what this revelation was.
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Goth angst Shulk confronting the universe is one of my favorite scenes
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Artix posted:Ya'll are gonna be extremely disappointed when you find out what this revelation was.
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AradoBalanga posted:Shulk was really Dash Rendar the whole time? 
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So does that make Reyn Leebo?
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Artix posted:Ya'll are gonna be extremely disappointed when you find out what this revelation was. 
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It me! I be the Dash Render!
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Artix posted:Ya'll are gonna be extremely disappointed when you find out what this revelation was. The Monado was actually a gun the whole time?
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Shulk: I'm gonna RENDAR you obsolete Zanza!
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Silver Falcon posted:You can blame the silly outfit on me. I ran around with cat costume Melia for awhile because I thought it was funny, and that was the outfit she happened to be wearing when I reached that point in the game. I didn't change it, because again- I thought it was funny. I’m not blaming anybody, I just had never seen it before.
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In the base game it was really hard to get heavy armour that 1) matched and 2) had gem slots, and even then I'd argue that the Orion set mostly looks bad regardless of whoever wears it. Melia at least gets a cute hood out of it and that's really the best-case scenario.
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I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that the other guy who can see visions is also associated with Zanza. What I wonder is, Alvis comes from a long line of seers, yeah? Were they all disciples of Zanza, or just Alvis? Also Alvis may be a disciple of Zanza, but as Shulk observed, he's not precisely working FOR Zanza either. Alvis kept helping Shulk by visiting him in dreams even after Zanza split off. He's an odd one, that guy.
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