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really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

My one rule for leftism is that if you feel the need to let people know how much farther left you are to others, then you're overcompensating for how liberal you actually are.

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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Laser eyes avatar? disregard that idiot

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Eggplant Squire posted:

One of the funny things about the sudden "child poverty has been solved" headlines is leading up to this bill you heard only a little about that aspect of it. Like that seems like a Big Deal and would certainly be a massive undertaking to cut child poverty by half with a lot of studies and planning since it's a pretty complicated issue especially due to the nature of our country and the different living conditions and economies depending on region (as we are told that's why 15 an hour won't work everywhere the same).

I kinda think they know the bill is lackluster and are trying to shine it as hard as they can.

it's just funny that everyone thinks "best domestic legislation since the great society" and "will cut child poverty in half" headlines showed up organically, instead out of some dem PR chop house.

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!
you can’t convince me that vaush isn’t the amazing atheist guy who stuck a banana up his butt. they’re the same guy

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

loquacius posted:

https://twitter.com/KnowNothingTV/status/1368693847186890755

So, I'm definitely at a point where I hate KHive more than I hate chuds, right, that's established

I'm not yet at a point where I hate Vaushites more than I hate KHive, but it's honestly getting there

lol that dude runs "coping maga" and also defending eugenics

misadventurous
Jun 26, 2013

the wise gem bowed her head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad quartzes. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

really queer Christmas posted:

Progressive
Pragmatic

“pragmatic leftist” is a really frustrating one

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Phi230 posted:

breadtube is cringe and a huge mistake and should be deplatformed asap

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Organ Fiend posted:

Unrelated, but there are a whole list of politics jargon that just needs to die:

Wonk
Hardscrabble
Shore Up
Comprehensive
Embolden
Tout
Grassroots
Boots on the ground

I'm sure there are others, but you can be sure when you see these words used in the context of politics, someone is loving lying to you.

Technocrat
Blast
Reach across the aisle
Bipartisan

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Willa Rogers posted:

it's just funny that everyone thinks "best domestic legislation since the great society" and "will cut child poverty in half" headlines showed up organically, instead out of some dem PR chop house.

Yeah exactly those phrases just appeared out of nowhere almost at the same time as the minimum wage vote.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Death By The Blues posted:

Probably not the best place to put this, but can anyone give me a run down on Vaush. My ex business partner/best friend was always more the moderate of us and I haven't talked to him in years, stumbled on his twitter and he seems to really like/rt Vaush. However, know very little about him.

he claims to be a socialist and was a fan of Destiny who does his own stream now or something

he basically tells kids that voting for Biden is praxis. he's gotten into some weird beefs

he also defending using the hard-r n-word as a power move lol

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

Looking at the replies, it seems like the new liberal catchall defense is "YoU dOn'T kNoW hOw GoVeRnMeNt WoRkS!1!1!"

Wonder how many of these people freaked out over AOC "endorsing" Bernie during the convention

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

really queer Christmas posted:

My one rule for leftism is that if you feel the need to let people know how much farther left you are to others, then you're overcompensating for how liberal you actually are.

The same is true of Punk Rock. See one Beta O'Dork, sometimes referred to as Robert O'Rourke.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
also vaush is a sex pest and he stated that a communist state would end the age of consent (he was saying this is a good thing)

I can't find the video but he also said that like Lenin and Mao would vote for and canvass for Joe Biden


IOW he's an idiot who says dumb poo poo to get attention from twitch kids

I try not to be too hard on his followers since a lot of them are actual children or very young adults but that know nothing dude is one of the most obnoxious of his hangers on.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

misadventurous posted:

“pragmatic leftist” is a really frustrating one

"I am a liberal but I will have a three-day-long panic attack if someone posts that silence, liberal stalin meme at me"

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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Vaush fits right in with other internet mutants like Sargon and Thunderfoot. His communist larping is annoying tho.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

a Loving Dog posted:

you can’t convince me that vaush isn’t the amazing atheist guy who stuck a banana up his butt. they’re the same guy

I think that guy's still around, and, yes

Adjectivist Philosophy
Oct 6, 2003

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

silicone thrills posted:

USA will balkanize before that happens imo. but maybe!

don't you threaten me with a good time

Adjectivist Philosophy
Oct 6, 2003

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

gandlethorpe posted:

Looking at the replies, it seems like the new liberal catchall defense is "YoU dOn'T kNoW hOw GoVeRnMeNt WoRkS!1!1!"

Wonder how many of these people freaked out over AOC "endorsing" Bernie during the convention

It's the same paternalistic nonsense of deferring to the media narrative because they're on tv and look smug in their nyt op ed photo so they must be smart, they keep telling me they're smart and i trust them. maybe YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about :smuggo:

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

a Loving Dog posted:

you can’t convince me that vaush isn’t the amazing atheist guy who stuck a banana up his butt. they’re the same guy

Didn't he also jerk off on CNN with his incredibly tiny weiner

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

really queer Christmas posted:

Didn't he also jerk off on CNN with his incredibly tiny weiner

Lol

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

really queer Christmas posted:

Didn't he also jerk off on CNN with his incredibly tiny weiner

okay stop making me like him

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Vaush is a liberal debate lord who calls himself a communist. He's also has a very annoying affect and a much higher self opinion than is warranted. It's legitimately depressing that he has such a large audience.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

wasn't he offered neera's job which is super powerful but he turned it down because he's an idiot that doesn't understand how DC works

Flunky
Jan 2, 2014

will cut childhood poverty in half [for about fifteen seconds]

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Nichael posted:

I think a big reason why the left fails is that the right has created a reality that is so crushing and depressing, that merely accurately describing it to less doomered or aware people makes you look like a colossal rear end in a top hat. It's pretty clear to me and all of you that the Democrats have no real interest in governance, or any meaningful opposing views to the GOP. But if you tell an average voter that at least 90% of the "good guys" party are monsters, and their party leader is a rapist, it is way too much to handle.

Nichael posted:

President Current Rapist refused to even performatively whip his home state Senators to vote for a paltry $15 minimum wage for a mock betrayal of capital. That truth is unbelievably depressing, and people don't want to hear that after four years of Trump, so they of course ignore it. When they acknowledge it, they cling to the idea of simply calling up the offices of Carper, Coons, Sinema, etc as if that'll matter.

i agree bro

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

wasn't he offered neera's job which is super powerful but he turned it down because he's an idiot that doesn't understand how DC works

Or maybe he just knew the senate wasn't ready to confirm a short and gay dude to OMB

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Organ Fiend posted:

Zero. The number is Zero.

There are no good guys in either party. Every single Democrat endorsed/voted for Biden. Every single Democrat in congress voted for Chuck or Nancy.

The "two parties" we have in this country are two heads of the same serpent. They exist only intercept and neuter populist movements from the right and left (that's why you need two of them). All of their fighting and negotiating is smoke an mirrors. In the end they will unite to deny people any sort of benefit or transfer of wealth beyond what the aristocracy of this country allows.

They only way forward (at least for the left) is to actively destroy the Democrat party, from without or within.

agreed

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

[Bidenishly] in this time, this unpresidented time, I have chosen Paul Budget as my transpersational secretry, because he too is LB... LG... big. big BLT. and will see over them with a fair hand

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

[Bidenishly] in this time, this unpresidented time, I have chosen Paul Budget as my transpersational secretry, because he too is LB... LG... big. big BLT. and will see over them with a fair hand

man I'm hungry, when's lunch?

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
What the gently caress is a vaush khive what are you people even doing. It's just lovely libs that only differ on how much they abuse idpol to try and project moral superiority.

alarumklok
Jun 30, 2012

there are different strains of lib that have their own bonuses and maluses. we're minmaxing over here alright

Muscle Wizard
Jul 28, 2011

by sebmojo
re: vaush.

https://twitter.com/trueanonpod/status/1300198721649479682

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
lmao

https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-dirtbag-left-stars-are-flirting-with-the-far-right

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Asproigerosis posted:

What the gently caress is a vaush khive what are you people even doing. It's just lovely libs that only differ on how much they abuse idpol to try and project moral superiority.

Essentially it's just "middle-aged white suburban lib" vs "sheepdogged online lib" but it's still helpful to know where the faction lines in the posting wars are drawn

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

jesus loving christ how many words is this on jimmy dore. i just keept scrolling and scrolling and scrolling

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006



lmfao even norman finklestein has been captured by the insidious alt-right I guess

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009


lol after 6 years of nytimes neonazi puff pieces

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Sorry for the derail. That makes sense.


The business partner really liked to fight me a bunch and we always joked he was more centrist. Once the CEO of Konica Minolta Canada called me ISIS (I am Iranian and had a bushy beard). Business partner said I kind of deserved it cause the beard was unkempt lol

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



matt christmas

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Lots of lumping people in there.

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