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foiled by my own unrealistic expectations, surely this is the producers' fault -a goon
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Cage Kicker posted:foiled by my own unrealistic expectations, surely this is the producers' fault 
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Mar 9, 2021 01:27
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Oasx posted:Legion is really good, and the closest you get to the feel of Wandavision. Agents of Shield is good solid action, and still my favorite Marvel tv. Legion is incredible, but it's very weird and people get very 0 or 100 on it. e: Like if you hate this, you probably won't like it, no spoilers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaWM-hMPUx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-WWoGOf8fY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6-9BsZ1qyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usQk3tjQR-w Barreft fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 02:49
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WandaVision Pitch Meeting
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Mar 9, 2021 03:06
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Jedit posted:a permanent UN observer would be installed with a remit to say "Yeah, that looks existential to me" on future occurrences. With apologies if you were aware and were making a reference, this was actually done in the comics (although the guy was much less a rubber stamp than Our Heroes might've preferred.)
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Mar 9, 2021 03:09
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LOL that this is basically the thread for the past week.
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Mar 9, 2021 03:27
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apatheticman posted:LOL that this is basically the thread for the past week. Fan speculators getting dissed by a boner joke is tight.
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Mar 9, 2021 03:42
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Just realized that the guy who's name is a boner joke was pretending to be someone named Peter, which is also dick related. And the actor's last name is also Peters. It's dick jokes all the way down
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Mar 9, 2021 03:46
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pik_d posted:It's dick jokes all the way down Somewhere, Laura Bailey is giggling uncontrollably.
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"...mmm I'm gonna make you pay for that." LOL Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 04:05
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Barreft posted:Legion is incredible, but it's very weird and people get very 0 or 100 on it. I watched all of Legion for the first time about a month into the pandemic. I rewatched it about a month ago. Your post is causing me to consider watching it again now. Such a great show. I wish I watched the show while it was airing.
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Spacebump posted:I watched all of Legion for the first time about a month into the pandemic. I rewatched it about a month ago. Your post is causing me to consider watching it again now. Such a great show. I wish I watched the show while it was airing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SZ3rMMYBLY
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Mar 9, 2021 04:53
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pik_d posted:Just realized that the guy who's name is a boner joke was pretending to be someone named Peter, which is also dick related. And the actor's last name is also Peters. The boner joke is even a reused boner joke that the director got from his time on Growing Pains. He named Ralph after a character from Growing Pains as another old tv reference. The more distant from watching the finale I am, the more I absolutely love the Fietro fakeout. Masterstroke in every way.
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I do hope there's something that comes out of Evan Peters' casting that isn't just a big red herring, because that's the second time in a row they've teased the multiverse. Far From Home had Mysterio lying about that being where he was from (which, why would he even mention it by name if he didn't know there was a real one?), and now we have Fox-Quicksilver's actor just being some dude named Bohner. We know that plot is coming up because of the Dr. Strange title and the next Spider-Man casting news, but I really hope they circle back on both of those teases and give them some meaning. Otherwise it's heavily diminishing returns, especially if they don't deliver on it a third time.
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Mar 9, 2021 08:08
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I watched Doctor Strange recently, they talk about the multiverse there and it felt more like "universes full of evil things like the dark dimension" then "alternate versions of our reality"
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Mar 9, 2021 08:10
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Barreft posted:Legion is incredible, but it's very weird and people get very 0 or 100 on it. As those clips show, some of the best parts of the show are when Noah Hawley drops all pretense and just shows off that he's good at making fun music videos. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 08:33
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Legion is okay but a lot of it is pretty bad
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Collapsing Farts posted:Legion is okay but a lot of it is pretty bad Yeah. Legion's trying, but very pretentious and slow, and often very crap. There's some cool stuff throughout, but there's also some truly awful stuff that I wish I hadn't sat through.
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sticklefifer posted:I do hope there's something that comes out of Evan Peters' casting that isn't just a big red herring, because that's the second time in a row they've teased the multiverse. Far From Home had Mysterio lying about that being where he was from (which, why would he even mention it by name if he didn't know there was a real one?), and now we have Fox-Quicksilver's actor just being some dude named Bohner. We know that plot is coming up because of the Dr. Strange title and the next Spider-Man casting news, but I really hope they circle back on both of those teases and give them some meaning. Otherwise it's heavily diminishing returns, especially if they don't deliver on it a third time. yeah, evan's casting definitely was deliberate. this means my current xmen crackpot theory is that they hired evans as bohner so they could slip him in as a xman later on. since he's already been cast in the mcu, people will just assume he's playing the same character, right? i really liked his quicksilver and i hope that he gets the chance to play that character again. 
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Mar 9, 2021 12:27
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FlamingLiberal posted:So since WandaVision ended up being a Scarlet Witch origin, is The Falcon and the Winter Soldier going to end up being an origin for Falcon Cap? I have to assume so. Almost certainly. They’ve managed to keep TF&TWS pretty under wraps, aside from some location shooting that people got shots of. - Either the US government doesn’t trust Sam to be Cap or Sam doesn’t feel like he’s up for the job, but either way we start with John Walker as a full-on propaganda Cap. - Zemo gets involved, looks like he and Bucky at one point team up (in Europe?). I’m guessing Zemo will clue Sam and Bucky in on something shady with Walker. - Big finale US Agent vs Falcon and Bucky fight - Sam becomes Cap at the very end - I swear Sam’s Cap uniform leaked in the form of concept art sometime last year, but I can’t find it again. There’s a more recent toy leak that claims to be Sam’s Cap outfit, but I’m skeptical because it hasn’t been backed up by anyone else, it’s from a line that also just does generic non-MCU versions of characters, and it’s way too comics-accurate for an MCU costume. I can’t imagine Anthony Mackie actually having to wear the weird “balaclava that leaves your hair exposed for some reason” thing that was so popular in 80s/90s designs.
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Mar 9, 2021 12:57
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Splash Attack posted:i really liked his quicksilver and i hope that he gets the chance to play that character again. I mean, he just did. That's what the Bohner thing was. It was Marvel giving him a chance to play Quicksilver again, in a referential bit of casting that has no greater relevance. I can't imagine they're going to do that a second time, especially when people reacted so badly to the fact he didn't become a permanent feature as Peter Maximoff in the MCU so badly.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Almost certainly. It really is mirror match combat finales all the way down with Marvel isn't it
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Mar 9, 2021 13:19
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BurritoJustice posted:It really is mirror match combat finales all the way down with Marvel isn't it That’s hardly a trope exclusive to Marvel
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Mar 9, 2021 13:22
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Big Mean Jerk posted:That’s hardly a trope exclusive to Marvel I know, it's just becoming more frustrating given that a show like Wandavision which had no right to end like that just did. Isolated, it actually makes a lot of sense for FATWS given the theme of deciding Cap's legacy
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Mar 9, 2021 13:27
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BurritoJustice posted:It really is mirror match combat finales all the way down with Marvel isn't it This has been the case since day 1 of the comics. The Fantastic Four are astronauts made into freaks because their leader is a scientist whose reach exceeded his grasp. They fight freaks of science, threats from space and Dr Doom, a scientist whose reach exceeded his grasp. Spidey's rogue's gallery is mainly either animal themed or people changed by science - heck, even the Trapster shares a theme in that he likes gluing people to the wall. Cap's enemies are usually mercenaries or private armies.
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Mar 9, 2021 13:47
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Splash Attack posted:yeah, evan's casting definitely was deliberate. this means my current xmen crackpot theory is that they hired evans as bohner so they could slip him in as a xman later on. since he's already been cast in the mcu, people will just assume he's playing the same character, right? The argument has been made that it had to be Peters because the audience wouldn't buy that some random actor was really Pietro. Because of the potential for multiverse shenanigans, people went along with it the whole time.
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Mar 9, 2021 13:50
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BurritoJustice posted:It really is mirror match combat finales all the way down with Marvel isn't it Not really, no. It usually happens once per solo hero, and not even definitely then. Thor wasn't really a mirror-match at any point for instance, nor Spiderman and Captain Marvel didn't have a mirror match villain in her one film so far. None of the Avengers films are mirror matches, nor are the Guardians films. Winter Soldier is kind of a mirror match of Cap, but he also wasn't really the villain of that story either. The MCU films with mirror matches are The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 1, maybe Iron Man 2 (depending on how you want to look at it), Ant Man 1, Doctor Strange and Black Panther 1 and that's probably it; even then Doctor Strange is also kind of debatable, since the Dormammu confrontation is the real climax of the film, rather than the wizard fight with Kaecilius.
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The vast majority of the mirror matchups are in the first movie of a series. The only sequels that qualify (at least debatably) are Iron Man 2, Winter Soldier (if you consider Bucky the villain) and Ragnarok (in that they're both Asgardian gods). This also means that Iron Man and Captain America are the only two series to double dip.
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Mar 9, 2021 13:58
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tsob posted:None of the Avengers films are mirror matches, nor are the Guardians films. Kinda hard to put together a team of mirrors.
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Mar 9, 2021 14:05
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Lawlicaust posted:The boner joke is even a reused boner joke that the director got from his time on Growing Pains. He named Ralph after a character from Growing Pains as another old tv reference. Same, the more time passes since the finale those "odd" choices feel better for me and the clear issues with making a TV show during a pandemic hit harder.
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Mar 9, 2021 14:09
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Seedge posted:Kinda hard to put together a team of mirrors. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AgonizingCostlyAnnelid-mobile.mp4
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Mar 9, 2021 14:09
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Seedge posted:Kinda hard to put together a team of mirrors. Hard, but not impossible by any stretch. The Injustice League, Crime Syndicate of America and probably a few other groups in DC are normally a mirror of the Justice League, as an example. There's also the Frightful Four in Marvel, and the Brotherhood of Mutants are sometimes dark mirrors of the X-Men lineup too. I'm sure there's some Avenger's villain group that has been a mirror match to them, though I've no idea of any off-hand.
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tsob posted:Hard, but not impossible by any stretch. The Injustice League, Crime Syndicate of America and probably a few other groups in DC are normally a mirror of the Justice League, as an example. There's also the Frightful Four in Marvel, and the Brotherhood of Mutants are sometimes dark mirrors of the X-Men lineup too. I'm sure there's some Avenger's villain group that has been a mirror match to them, though I've no idea of any off-hand. The Masters of Evil have filled that role often enough. They're usually led by Baron Zemo and the roster regularly includes counterparts to Iron Man, Hank Pym in whichever size mode he's currently operating, Hulk and Thor.
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tsob posted:Hard, but not impossible by any stretch. The Injustice League, Crime Syndicate of America and probably a few other groups in DC are normally a mirror of the Justice League, as an example. There's also the Frightful Four in Marvel, and the Brotherhood of Mutants are sometimes dark mirrors of the X-Men lineup too. I'm sure there's some Avenger's villain group that has been a mirror match to them, though I've no idea of any off-hand. The Masters of Evil, some of whom ended up becoming the first incarnation of the Thunderbolts.
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Mar 9, 2021 14:26
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I mean, Ultron is a mirror match in that he can use their powers, but AoU sucked so pay no attention to me.
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Mar 9, 2021 14:39
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I'm looking forward to seeing a live action version of Troublemakers Incorporated.
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Mar 9, 2021 14:42
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Infinity War is arguably close-ish to a mirror match with the Black Order, and Thanos if you very arbitrarily stretch it to his sorta similar infinity stone powers
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Mar 9, 2021 14:55
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BurritoJustice posted:Infinity War is arguably close-ish to a mirror match with the Black Order, and Thanos if you very arbitrarily stretch it to his sorta similar infinity stone powers Ehhhh....Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw are obvious counterparts of the Hulk and Dr. Strange, but I don't think Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight match up particularly closely with anyone in the Avengers. They're both just kind of all around superhumans, really. Even then, the Hulk refuses to come out and so never really fights Cull Obsidian, and Ebony Maw mostly fights Iron Man and Spiderman after defeating Dr. Strange.
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tsob posted:Ehhhh....Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw are obvious counterparts of the Hulk and Dr. Strange, but I don't think Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight match up particularly closely with anyone in the Avengers. They're both just kind of all around superhumans, really. Even then, the Hulk refuses to come out and so never really fights Cull Obsidian, and Ebony Maw mostly fights Iron Man and Spiderman after defeating Dr. Strange. Cull and Maw fight hulk (neutered) and Strange in New York, then Glaive and Proxima end up fighting Widow and Cap in Scotland with very similar fighting styles. A fight that makes no sense considering they just went toe to toe with Vision and Wanda, but a surprisingly close one. I guess Glaive matches up with Okoye in style but not power In the New York fight Banner says he doesn't have his gun (to shoot himself in the mouth) so he can't force the Hulk when he is standing next to Bleeding Edge Stark and Dr. Strange lol
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tsob posted:Ehhhh....Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw are obvious counterparts of the Hulk and Dr. Strange, but I don't think Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight match up particularly closely with anyone in the Avengers. They're both just kind of all around superhumans, really. Glaive and Proxima are superpowered versions of Cap and Widow. They're both primarily melee combatants, with Glaive using a thrown weapon that always returns to his hand as a ranged option while Proxima uses poisonous energy blasts analogous to Natasha's Widow's Bite.
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