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projecthalaxy posted:See that's what I thought but everyone's pretending asking for release means something Just hoping. All the droves of people wasted in wwe really gets to some people, like myself, and the prospect of seeing their faves actually wrestle again has people hyped. Plus the wwe is just so overwhelmingly, unstoppably soul destroying evil that you can’t help but feel sorry for them. The terrible people you don’t of course and you can try and understand why some guys just wanna surf and get paid to lie on their backs for Vince’s new toy BUT there is a part of you that misses seeing an artist like Shinsuke perform to roaring crowds. A gilded cage is still a cage and birds just look more inspiring flying around in the sky. I remember Foochs trying so hard to stay positive and loyal to his boy Ambrose. Pooper scooper and all. All of us were bummed out watching him pantomime through most of his contract. He gets to AEW and goes full Moxley and rewards us for our hopes. Foochs is back to being (mostly) positive and it is just a happier place. Be patient with silly goons hoping for more. Life doesn’t have to be all drudgery and slavery no matter what Vince and his crew like to tell the world. Life doesn’t always HAVE to suck... just awful people want you to think that so you can just shut up and eat the gruel they serve.
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Digital Jedi posted:So was it Zelina being fired or Heyman no longer in charge that made he disappear? Past year is just one blur I can't remember Even though Vince still books the shows 
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People are hinting that Keith Lee’s absence is a bigger deal than simply being covid related too
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Seams posted:People are hinting that Keith Lee’s absence is a bigger deal than simply being covid related too He's been sent back to the PC to go through Fat Camp
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More than hoping that good current WWE guys find a way out, my major hope the people who have left over the last year or so is that the example they've set emboldens other talent to just not take WWE money in the first place. The time was, not too long ago, that WWE was the one option for making it in the big leagues. If it's 2011 and you're an excellent up and coming wrestler and you want to be paid well to do it, you can maybe go to Japan, you can hustle as hard as possible on the indies, or you can try and get signed by WWE. There's other ways to make it now. Even without AEW in the picture there would be other ways to make it. And wrestlers talk more than they ever did. So people see La Sombra, one of the best wrestlers in the world, go into the WWE machine for five years and do nothing. They see Shinsuke Nakamura go from being one of the new Three Musketeers of New Japan with Shibata and Tanahashi to being a joke who loses to Apollo Crews in four minutes. They see Keith Lee just get absolutely shat on as soon as he made it to the main roster. They see the joy on the faces of people like FTR when they get out and they can do their own thing again. And maybe the money and the thought of moving to Florida just isn't that enticing any more. There's other places to make money in wrestling now.
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projecthalaxy posted:See that's what I thought but everyone's pretending asking for release means something Hear you loud and clear. Here’s what does happen though: It does take potential signees and people connected to wrestling and gives a warning sign. Some will ignore that and some will say “ok but I can handle it and things will be different”. Some will even say it’s my dream and I don’t care. What Andrade and others are doing is letting people know the conditions are troublesome or cause for concern. The hope is that maybe corporate and WWE will make changes or understand. Now, they never do of course but Andrade doing this warns other talent like him of what could be red flags. It could also tell talent in the system already that maybe I’m feeling the same and it’s time to take action. SRS I believe just put out an article today that WWE is working on raiding internationally more talent to sign. They’re going on a prowl for more women to sign specifically. They’re also sending out feelers to talent and preying on those who view WWE as their “dream destination” and using it as a negotiation tactic (and this is per a MPW wrestler that I know). The thought is for those talents, if they get them young, they’ll lock them in for life and can mold them into their system. I truly admire, as weird as this situation is for arguably one of the best wrestlers in the game, Andrade asking for his release and it making the rounds. What IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN is a company reviews the history of wrestlers being unhappy and finding ways to make the job remain attractive and secure for those who sign so they never want to leave. If anything, it just tells those young wrestlers who could have regrets or get locked into something (this being their first ever major contract) that maybe I should negotiate harder, explore options and make sure this is the best fit for me instead of believing WWE is the right fit for everybody and I just need to fit it myself. It’s such a tough angle. It’s hard to be in the wrestling game and I feel for talents struggling to find their next move and right move. And go through negotiations that are still archaic in nature.
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They're basically upset that what they did with Drew won't work right now. If they release someone with potential, they have a lot more options than they used to.
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Rarity posted:He's been sent back to the PC to go through Fat Camp But, again, rumors
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Spiderdrake posted:If rumors are correct his contract actually is up in about a month and I would love to see HHH trying to convince Keith Lee to stay when "you sent me to fat camp" is in the conversation drat. poo poo is juicy. I’m curious now!
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Keith Lee vs Powerhouse Hobbs. Why not done!?
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Spiderdrake posted:If rumors are correct his contract actually is up in about a month and I would love to see HHH trying to convince Keith Lee to stay when "you sent me to fat camp" is in the conversation Yeah I can't imagine Keith Lee in any way looking at his time in wwe and saying anything other than "gently caress you - I'm out." I would love to see him in Japan tearing poo poo up being a giant hoss and getting 5 stars. Same with Andrade, Gran Metallik and Aleister Black. I still hope New Day get there one day too as they would be great for some guest appearances. I know Charlotte isn't to blame for her booking but she still seems like she has a habit of not caring about her opponent and overwhelming need to "get her poo poo in." I'm okay if she never goes anywhere but wwe. Same with Nia Jax and Lacey Evans.
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I actually wouldn't mind seeing Charlotte outside of the WWE. I'd love to see what she could do in a system that's actively working with her to fix her flaws and teach her a little more empathy for her fellow wrestlers.
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Vandar posted:I actually wouldn't mind seeing Charlotte outside of the WWE. I'd love to see what she could do in a system that's actively working with her to fix her flaws and teach her a little more empathy for her fellow wrestlers. If Charlotte didn't learn that coming up with Becky, Bayley, and Sasha, then nobody is gonna teach her anything she doesn't want to learn.
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Read this about Andrade. It’s a thread. https://twitter.com/RobViper/status/1370517702608105472?s=20 https://twitter.com/robviper/status/1370517708681445383?s=21 Edit: gently caress it. Here’s all the posts from this guy: quote:When Mistico/Sin Cara failed to succeed in WWE it was easy for the apologists to point his bad attitude, contractual clauses, size, style, language barrier, etc etc etc It was a match made in hell (which everyone knew going in) & some actually said (haha) WWE would learn from it. Fantastic read. Should take 60 seconds tops to read. 69 if ya nastyyyyyyyyyyy. Shout out to Janet Jackson I guess. ICR fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Mar 13, 2021 |
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Mar 13, 2021 02:25
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Time for him to start a twitch.
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Pylons posted:Time for him to start a twitch. Nah, OnlyFans.
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Wow what a shock they didn't release him Really loving sucks for him. gently caress WWE Then Now Forever
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If only there was a billionaire that would be interested in bankrolling a challenge of WWEs lovely independent contractor contracts in court
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Rarity posted:On the plus side Andrade's already been sat at home for 5 months so he's likely only got another 4-6 left on his escape timeline sounds like frozen time to me.
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Spiderdrake posted:If rumors are correct his contract actually is up in about a month and I would love to see HHH trying to convince Keith Lee to stay when "you sent me to fat camp" is in the conversation Is the contract part true? I thought everyone gets a new contract when they move up from NXT now?
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Dacap posted:Is the contract part true? I thought everyone gets a new contract when they move up from NXT now? Underpaying people is just as WWE as hyper restrictive contracts for supposed not-employees, so... And as people said, they just moved a guy into for a hatchet job so things are probably going to be interesting following mania.
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Pylons posted:Time for him to start a twitch. Or an OnlyFans
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Dacap posted:Is the contract part true? I thought everyone gets a new contract when they move up from NXT now? im pretty sure all the retribution members were getting paid their sub $100k NXT salaries on RAW while StandingUpForWWE on twitter for their Destroy WWE gimmick
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Spiderdrake posted:If rumors are correct his contract actually is up in about a month and I would love to see HHH trying to convince Keith Lee to stay when "you sent me to fat camp" is in the conversation How would that be possible? Has he somehow been there for 3 years already or did he sign a shorter contract? I don't know how long he's been there but I seriously thought it'd only been a year. Time is hosed in my brain.
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Ganso Bomb posted:How would that be possible? Has he somehow been there for 3 years already or did he sign a shorter contract? I don't know how long he's been there but I seriously thought it'd only been a year. He's been signed since 2018.
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Ganso Bomb posted:How would that be possible? Has he somehow been there for 3 years already or did he sign a shorter contract? I don't know how long he's been there but I seriously thought it'd only been a year. he joined NXT in 2018 and did gently caress all for about 2 years
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Pylons posted:Time for him to start a twitch. There is literally no reason for him not to just turn up at Raw and go around the locker room talking about unionisation. Well, I suppose he could be worried about sinking his partner's career in a guilt-by-association thing but at this point you'd imagine the WWE have sunk too much into Charlotte for that.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:he joined NXT in 2018 and did gently caress all for about 2 years andrade was a face for like a year after he showed up, right? his first takeover match was against tye dillinger. which iirc was the same show where kenta came back and hit his move on austin aries.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:he joined NXT in 2018 and did gently caress all for about 2 years That's loving insane
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If you tweet “Vince McMahon drinks dog piss” they’ll definitely fire you. He should just do that,
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Jesus Amdrade's( Manny) first NXT match was August 2016 (according to cagematch)
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forkboy84 posted:There is literally no reason for him not to just turn up at Raw and go around the locker room talking about unionisation. Well, I suppose he could be worried about sinking his partner's career in a guilt-by-association thing but at this point you'd imagine the WWE have sunk too much into Charlotte for that. He'd probably get dumped if that happened.
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It’s so funny reading how long some of these people have been in NXT and then reading that they’ve signed 40 more women and it’s the biggest NXT class in history!!!
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Just know they're going to bring Andrade back to TV to convince him to stay by *reads notes* humiliating him Edit: Oh god they're going to feed him to Nia Jax just like they tried to do Moxley
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Just know they're going to bring Andrade back to TV to convince him to stay by *reads notes* humiliating him His last loss was to The Fiend so that's pretty humiliating.
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Tweet "Vince knew what Benoit did and still gave him the tribute show" You'll with get sacked or be WHC for life
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He should tweet about starting a union.
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