Well, this was interesting. I just had what I'm sure some would call a "realistic" Germany game. Background: I have a ton of mods installed. I'm subscribed to like 70 or so and just bounce from mod to mod, trying different things. Playing different mods is where I get most of my fun with HoI4. So I'm browsing my mod list and stumble over something called "Deutschland Erwache" - a Germany expansion. No idea when I subscribed to it, must've been a while back. While the mod does flesh out monarchist and democratic paths for Germany and adds a communist one, I find myself thinking "I'm sure this has some Wehraboo tendencies, especially with that name - let's play a plain old Germany game with this mod and have some fun rolling over the Soviets with OP as gently caress bonuses". Boy, was I wrong. So, I start the game as usual, get involved in Spain and win that with my tanks, poo poo out a bunch of infantry so I get manpower for the annexation focuses, build up civs, that sort of thing. And then I start doing the annexation focuses and things start going very very wrong. #1: The Anschluss. Austria just says no. So that's a pretty impressive curveball for the mod to throw me - Austria had no guarantees on it, nothing. I saw zero reason for them to say no, but apparently they just have a chance to do that. So I have to invade. I do that. I don't get cores. Womp womp. #2: Italy. Hungary blitzes their focus tree to get an alliance with Italy and the Pact of Rome forms way too god drat fast. So that's out. I could have disbanded my faction and joined the Pact, maybe, but world tension was too low for that at the time I gave up. #3: Leadership of the OKW. I get an event at some point asking me if I want to let the Wehrmacht generals lead the OKW or make Hitler the leader. One gives me nice bonuses. One gives me negatives. Now, I could see this as a blatant trap. But I picked the generals anyway. I guess this is kinda my fault for spotting a trap, saying to myself "oh no, that's a trap!", then sitting my rear end squarely in it. #4: Sudetenland. Britain says no and immediately adds Czechoslovakia into the Allies. So I prep, figuring I can take out the Czechs and hold against the Allies just fine, especially since Poland is going for their faction thing. #5: The war. So I declare war on the Czechs, immediately use some siege artillery and blast through the Czech forts with ease. Two days later an event pops up. "The Oster conspiracy". I think to myself "oh, hey, they added that, neat". The event doesn't show any result, so I figure there will be a later event giving me a choice to have it succeed or fail. But that's where the trap came in. I didn't get that choice. I assume because I allowed the generals to have power, they were able to execute the conspiracy, and all I get is an event saying "The conspiracy was successful, Hitler's dead and you're gonna have a civil war. You want to play the revolters or continue with Himmler or Göring?". And then I get a civil war with about 50% of my troops and generals just gone. And so then I was looking at being at war with the Allies (Britain, France, Czechoslovakia, Romania) and doing a civil war with near even strength on both sides at the same time. And then I just ALT+F4'd. GG, game. You got me. I haven't been this owned since I played Old World Blues: Hellfire and got a revolt in that that took away about 80% of my territory and left 80% of my units immediately encircled.
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I’m not actually sure how much of that was the mod, I think that’s all possible in the base game on non-historic
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 20:05 |
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Yeah, everything except the OKW leadership event sounds vanilla.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 20:08 |
ro5s posted:I’m not actually sure how much of that was the mod, I think that’s all possible in the base game on non-historic Dramicus posted:Yeah, everything except the OKW leadership event sounds vanilla. Does AI Austria seriously have a chance to just say no to the Anschluss in like 1937? I've never seen that happen before in vanilla (and I pretty much always play non-historical), only in Road to 56 where there's an Italy, Austria and Hungary Rome Protocols faction path.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 20:14 |
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only if historical focus is off and germany has an army size of less than 30 divisions
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Raskolnikov38 posted:only if historical focus is off and germany has an army size of less than 30 divisions Huh. Learn something new every day, I guess. I could've sworn I already had two full infantry armies at that point, but I guess I must've been mistaken.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 20:41 |
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i mean thats to get the non-acceptance chance above 0, its still p low otherwisecode:
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 20:45 |
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He probably had the Hungarian offer trigger if they went pact of Rome.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 22:16 |
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Steam has the HoI4 Bundle with what looks like all 6 expansion / DLCs on 62% off, worth just getting the DLCs all together if I know I will like the game? Or is it easy to just buy 9.99 vanilla and play with mods? Also it is free to play for another day and a half it looks like.
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 05:37 |
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ro5s posted:I’m not actually sure how much of that was the mod, I think that’s all possible in the base game on non-historic i had this happen in a game where I did little entente as france and defended the czechs and democratic germany popped out and instantly won the civil war, then the entire world dunked on italy when it went into yugoslavia, it was incredible.
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 05:44 |
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What influences whether or not the Brits will agree to Turkey's Petra Proposal focus?
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 08:52 |
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stackofflapjacks posted:Steam has the HoI4 Bundle with what looks like all 6 expansion / DLCs on 62% off, worth just getting the DLCs all together if I know I will like the game? Or is it easy to just buy 9.99 vanilla and play with mods? None of the expansions really have any must have features, so the only real consideration is if you want more/better focus trees (aka country storylines). The DLC focus trees are way better than the default at least. Mods are where it's at though.
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# ? Mar 11, 2021 14:39 |
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On historical mode the UK will sometimes attack Iceland This results in nothing interesting happening, except that every axis nation then gets the "defensive war" buff to war support
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 13:16 |
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One thing I didn't know until it happened to me was that if you try to go Communist as Sweden then the UK will probably declare war on you.
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 16:52 |
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PinheadSlim posted:One thing I didn't know until it happened to me was that if you try to go Communist as Sweden then the UK will probably declare war on you. UK has an intervention focus for several countries. IIRC the list is : Sweden, Norway, Denmark / Netherlands, Belgium / Iraq, Iran. If any of them start switching to either fascism or communism then democratic UK can "intervene" for the good of democracy, of course.
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 19:10 |
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I’m playing a non-historical anarchist Spain game, and right before I put the Republicans in the ground the god damned French join the war on their side. Of course I couldn’t beat them, but Germany eventually did. So now I’m at war with all of the allies, and still technically in the civil war (which locks you out of a bunch of focuses).
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 20:01 |
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PinheadSlim posted:One thing I didn't know until it happened to me was that if you try to go Communist as Sweden then the UK will probably declare war on you. Found this out myself when trying to get the Northern Light achievement, and the UK was not having it.
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# ? Mar 13, 2021 20:26 |
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My friend and I are playing the Millennium Dawn mod in multiplayer. He's Russia, I'm Greece, and despite being very rough around the edges we're having a lot of fun. No major wars yet, but I'm actually a fan of the political parties, influence, and foreign investment systems. Too bad the performance is pretty poo poo Also Bill Clinton has been reelected for the 4th time Farecoal fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Mar 14, 2021 |
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Cross-posting from the regular Paradox thread, since I forgot that this thread exists. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I've mostly played in eastern Europe, so this is the first time I'll be meddling with the US' affairs in HoI4. Major Isoor posted:Hey, just have a quick question or two regarding HoI4. So, I'm playing as Socialist Mexico and my aim so far has been to gobble up all the small central American nations, so that we're all under my banner. Then, I plan on attacking the USA (+seizing the Panama canal) to hopefully take the southern half of the country - possibly also puppet the US, too. (Then hopefully take Belize off fascist UK) Oh actually, if I rush atomic bombs, will they help smash the Americans' war support? So like, if I take Texas and some cities outside the state (whatever's vulnerable, really) then drop a nuke on Washington DC, will that kill their desire to fight back? Or will I still need to take like, 95% of the VPs needed, for a nuke to nudge me over the line for a win?
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 02:26 |
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I haven't played as Mexico yet, but I can say the diplomatic pressure option is gone if you have El Resistioso, you have to use the god drat spy system instead and it's no longer worth it.
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 02:36 |
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yeah iirc the Mexico strat is cavalry spam and an early war
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Byzantine posted:I haven't played as Mexico yet, but I can say the diplomatic pressure option is gone if you have El Resistioso, you have to use the god drat spy system instead and it's no longer worth it. Ah drat, that's a shame. Well, I might try to make an alliance with Brazil and whatever other South American countries I can, I guess. Especially since if an early war is best, I've missed my chance - since it's 1939 already. I also replaced my cavalry with infantry, in preparation for my light armoured divisions...oops? The US isn't likely to get outside help though at least, so once I can start churning out planes and tanks in earnest, I'll hopefully be able to put a dent in them before they can build up too much. (Hopefully they'll get into a war of their own first though, to divert some of their forces)
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# ? Mar 15, 2021 02:41 |
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So I've worked up the courage to play as the Soviet Union again, post La Resistance, and... how does Trotsky work now? I used to have a lot of fun doing coups and such with Permanent Revolution, but since the changes in La Resistance Trotsky seems really weak.
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DrSunshine posted:So I've worked up the courage to play as the Soviet Union again, post La Resistance, and... how does Trotsky work now? I used to have a lot of fun doing coups and such with Permanent Revolution, but since the changes in La Resistance Trotsky seems really weak. He doesn't.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 18:27 |
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I spent an entire game as USSR trying to orchestrate a single coup in a minor nation and hit the hard cap for stability reduction preventing me from doing so. The espionage system is pointless and la resistance makes the game worse
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 20:34 |
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ShadowHawk posted:I spent an entire game as USSR trying to orchestrate a single coup in a minor nation and hit the hard cap for stability reduction preventing me from doing so. Well... gently caress. That really sucks and is disappointing!
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 20:54 |
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In five years when they get around to releasing the Soviet DLC, maybe they'll fix it. If they have time between making gigantic focus trees with incredible buffs for Estonia, Latvia and Belarus, a Borat easter egg for Kazakhstan, and fleshing out the Rodzaevsky path.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:05 |
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Byzantine posted:In five years when they get around to releasing the Soviet DLC, maybe they'll fix it. the italian east africa tree will be a big gamechanger.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:05 |
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I keep wanting to buy la resistance because of the armored cars and then I remember it comes with the espionage system and just lol no It's not even like I want the armored cars because I think they'll be useful, I just think armored cars are really really cool
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:21 |
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the espionage system is pretty cool for the getting intel to own peoples navies but the rest of it is pretty bad.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:25 |
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PinheadSlim posted:I keep wanting to buy la resistance because of the armored cars and then I remember it comes with the espionage system and just lol no Hello fellow armored car dork. I built them all the time in hoi3, and try and build them when I get to great power status in hoi4.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:32 |
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Confirming that the espionage system is bad and it is probably preventing me from spending money on HoI4 ever again.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 21:37 |
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what atrocious opinions
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 22:09 |
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Yeah I mean, you can just not do the espionage thing. Sending a country into civil war with bare any effort was dumb in the first place. Maybe the system they have now sucks too, but whatever. The rest of the game is the same.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 22:13 |
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SHISHKABOB posted:Yeah I mean, you can just not do the espionage thing. Sending a country into civil war with bare any effort was dumb in the first place. Maybe the system they have now sucks too, but whatever. The rest of the game is the same.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 22:26 |
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Yeah as someone who mostly plays teeny tiny countries I feel like installing la resistance will just give all the major powers another way to own my behind
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 22:27 |
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Is Kaiserreich is working properly right now? I started playing it but so far both my games were super boring because germany collapsed and died super early in both of them, and then there's no real reason for russia and the communists to go to war so it just kinda fizzles out. The last game was with exiled France and it was just the worst thing ever because germany collapsed in March 1940 before I could do anything and then good luck beating communist France when it owns all of Germany. Is this the way things are meant to go or is the balance just really off?
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 22:44 |
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There was some mod I was using (and conveniently I forgot the name) which brought back some usefulness towards espionage with the dlc. It veered on slightly OP, but anyone who’s played against AI long enough probably knows/employs a dozen tricks against it anyway. Espionage left a bad taste in my mouth. It was something I wanted to see expanded in a DLC, but it feels like busy work and tedium for benefits which were middling. The navy infiltration and sea zones were cool though.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 23:00 |
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lazorexplosion posted:Is Kaiserreich is working properly right now? I started playing it but so far both my games were super boring because germany collapsed and died super early in both of them, and then there's no real reason for russia and the communists to go to war so it just kinda fizzles out. The last game was with exiled France and it was just the worst thing ever because germany collapsed in March 1940 before I could do anything and then good luck beating communist France when it owns all of Germany. March 1940 is a bit early but I think it's rare to see a Second Weltkrieg go beyond 1942 and they definitely need to add some post-war events for getting fascist, imperial, or liberal Russia to fight the Third Internationale if Germany loses. With that said, I've seen AI Reichspakt pull off some wins against the Third Internationale a couple of times. Just seems like a TI victory is more common.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 23:03 |
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PinheadSlim posted:Yeah as someone who mostly plays teeny tiny countries I feel like installing la resistance will just give all the major powers another way to own my behind It's mostly inconsequential. Occasionally they will break your ciphers and get a minor bonus against you for 90 days or something. They also might increase resistance in occupied territories. That's about it. You can mostly play as if the system doesn't exist. On the other hand, I really like the new garrison system and I think the French and Spanish trees are really fun.
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