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Bust Rodd posted:I’m confused isn’t Loki a villain? He's supposed to be "evil" in the show, but the protagonist. So, I am predicting a Walter White level of fans empathizing with every bad thing he does. Some people already flipped out when the Russos said they consulted on the show and confirmed that Loki in 2012 was just evil and not being manipulated by the mind stone.
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Mar 19, 2021 05:18
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m confused isn’t Loki a villain? He's a sympathetic villain to a lot of people. He was taken hostage as a baby, lied to about his origins by his father, overlooked in the line of succession in favor of his brother despite his brother being a cruel warmongering idiot, is often conflicted about the bad things he does, shows multiple times that despite his callousness and duplicity that he is still motivated to act out of love for his family and his society, and is entirely capable of heroism. The exact kind of character that people want to see redeemed. Whether you think he deserves redemption is another question. Debate about his level of culpability for New York vs Thanos and thus his guilt for those who died during the attack aside, he did try to do a Genocide to the Jotun entirely of his own volition and gave directions to the Big Dark Elf Boi for pretty much no reason but pettiness that helped him bring down Asgard's shield which led to a lot of deaths, including arguably his own mother. He grew as a character to regret being that person but other than helping to save the Asgardians from Hela and dying trying to bring down Thanos he's never done much to make amends for his misdeeds.
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Mar 19, 2021 06:00
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m confused isn’t Loki a villain? Its been retconned that the staff convinced Loki to attack Earth. Probably cause they want us to like him in this show.
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Mar 19, 2021 06:08
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What time does the new shows post on Disney+?
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Mar 19, 2021 06:13
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Djarum posted:What time does the new shows post on Disney+? 3 AM EST
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Mar 19, 2021 06:28
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Based on that collar I assume we're going to have The Running Man
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Mar 19, 2021 06:32
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Almost FATWS time! 
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Mar 19, 2021 07:51
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Bust Rodd posted:I’m confused isn’t Loki a villain? He's proven he has the capacity to change and grow. This actually makes this iteration of him intriguing. I'd love to see his reaction to being told about what he became and did. I'm imagining a sneering response about stupidity coupled with a deep feeling of pride. Rightly or wrongly, his entire life was consumed with the feeling he wasn't good enough in some way and he was a giant dick because of it. Genuinely. I'm always interested in characters that at least try to explain how they arrived at a certain point. Bonus points if they don't let them off the hook. Let us not forget he has killed hundreds of thousands of people working out his Daddy issues. (this feels like classic anti-hero gubbins, mostly because as others have said "he's so dreamy")
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Mar 19, 2021 07:57
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WINGSUIT GUNFIGHT
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Mar 19, 2021 08:20
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Loki is as close as there is to a live action Tumblr Sexman. I really like this so far. I love Sam's family and Bucky having a date
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Mar 19, 2021 08:54
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Bucky’s friendship with the old Japanese dude is terrific.
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Mar 19, 2021 08:56
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Man, err'body got mortgage problems in these superhero shows nowadays. D'you think it says something about our generation that the most relatable problem that all the writers are writing about our lives is having to worry about money to pay back the bank?
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Mar 19, 2021 09:07
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Mar 19, 2021 09:10
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Falcon and Winter Soldier seems a lot better than I thought it would be.
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Mar 19, 2021 09:25
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Gonz posted:Bucky’s friendship with the old Japanese dude is terrific. That friendship is not going to survive the truth, is it?
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Mar 19, 2021 09:32
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That was really good. I want to see more of these two and I want them to get some wins. Comic book stuff I spotted: Torres, the military dude who works with Falcon I assume is the second Falcon, Joaquin Torres - though I doubt he's getting any wings. Also spotted the Power Broker getting namechecked in the credits graphics. Presumably how USAgent will get powers, but also maybe has something to do with the beefy Flag-Smasher?
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Mar 19, 2021 09:40
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BrianWilly posted:Man, err'body got mortgage problems in these superhero shows nowadays. D'you think it says something about our generation that the most relatable problem that all the writers are writing about our lives is having to worry about money to pay back the bank? Really these people should all earn hundreds of thousands from speaking engagements, merch and licensing, or promotional stuff. Nobody except maybe Spider-man should be struggling with money.
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Mar 19, 2021 09:41
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Ravel posted:Really these people should all earn hundreds of thousands from speaking engagements, merch and licensing, or promotional stuff. Nobody except maybe Spider-man should be struggling with money. Maybe the A listers. B tier and below will be lucky to get a stand at Comicon and charge for autographs.
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Mar 19, 2021 10:10
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stev posted:Maybe the A listers. B tier and below will be lucky to get a stand at Comicon and charge for autographs. Right. Sam helped Cap take down Hydra, became an international fugitive, and then helped save Earth from Thanos but the dude still wasn’t sure who he was until he basically fed the answer to him. Solid pilot. The opening scene was mostly great but the lack of any kind of air movement when Redwing blew the door felt kinda weird. I guess they were low and slow enough for it not to matter. Bucky’s old man friendship is sweet and I hate that it’s almost certainly going to end when he tells him the truth. I really like how the show is making a serious effort to expand these characters beyond just their relationship to Cap. Every scene with Sam doubting himself over the shield hit in a way that made me feel for the character. The Walker reveal felt like an actual betrayal in a way I hadn’t expected, especially since his presence in the show hasn’t been a secret at all. I’m pleasantly surprised that the character beats were the focus here, I fully expected the show to be 80% action. Obviously that’ll pick up as we go on, but it’ll be interesting to see how much of the rest of the season will be family life/personal stuff.
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Mar 19, 2021 10:14
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That was good! Looks nice too. Who was captain fauxmerica at the end?
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Mar 19, 2021 11:21
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sebmojo posted:That was good! Looks nice too. Who was captain fauxmerica at the end? USAgent. He's a bit of an anti-hero take on Cap, usually well intentioned but hyper-patriotic and a bit bonkers
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BurritoJustice posted:USAgent. He's a bit of an anti-hero take on Cap, usually well intentioned but hyper-patriotic and a bit bonkers
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Mar 19, 2021 12:14
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Absolutely everyone on social media is making fun of John Walker for instantly looking like the most punchable man on the planet but I'm gonna reserve judgment in case he turns out to be a sympathetic cool character 
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Mar 19, 2021 12:16
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Just realised us agent is will Russell, the guy in the video game episode of Black Mirror who seems to be the kind of actor suited for playing a well meaning and cheerful idiot. Stoked if he turns out to be a villain though
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Mar 19, 2021 12:22
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I'd bet anything on the twist with USAgent being that we are set up to hate him but he ends up just being a well intentioned nice guy
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Just realised us agent is will Russell, the guy in the video game episode of Black Mirror who seems to be the kind of actor suited for playing a well meaning and cheerful idiot. Stoked if he turns out to be a villain though This is exactly his role on Lodge 49 BurritoJustice posted:I'd bet anything on the twist with USAgent being that we are set up to hate him but he ends up just being a well intentioned nice guy Giving how explicitly Team America: World Police the US was in this episode, it feels like US Agent is going to be doing a lot of things Steve stood against.
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Mar 19, 2021 12:35
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I love the fact that Sam was essentially denied a loan because he was snapped out of existence for five years and thus had no income.. The MCU sounds like it was a pretty terrible place after the snap and before people came back.
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Mar 19, 2021 12:54
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Sam is going to get such a passive aggressive text message from Steve later.
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Mar 19, 2021 12:58
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Calling it now, this season ends by revealing that Steve is on the moon.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:00
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Oasx posted:I love the fact that Sam was essentially denied a loan because he was snapped out of existence for five years and thus had no income.. This is extremely my poo poo. I just want to see people dealing with petty every day bullshit because of the blip. Like I bet everyone who blipped got their bank accounts closed and assets given over to inheritors. How much of a nightmare is that going to be. B
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Mar 19, 2021 14:05
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I feel bad for the girl Bucky met. What a let down of a date.  I hope she meets someone nice.
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Mar 19, 2021 14:32
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stev posted:Maybe the A listers. B tier and below will be lucky to get a stand at Comicon and charge for autographs. Nah, if in the actual real-world the fictional character The Falcon is an IP with enough recognition to headline a Disney TV show then in a fictional world where he could actually fly he'd be worth 1000x that. I get why in a narrative sense it isn't like that though,
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Mar 19, 2021 15:03
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I hope this sinister red hand terrorist group does something evil soon because so far their crimes are a) robbing a posh-looking bank b) trying to create a world without borders c) beating up a US intelligence operative they seem pretty cool to me
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Mar 19, 2021 15:19
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So is Falcon not allowed to use guns anymore. or what? He used to shoot at people all the time, now he just outsources his kills to gravity/his murder drone?
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Mar 19, 2021 15:25
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Piell posted:So is Falcon not allowed to use guns anymore. or what? He used to shoot people all the time, now he just outsources his kills to gravity/his murder drone? He did blow up a helicopter with people inside of it.
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Mar 19, 2021 15:27
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Piell posted:So is Falcon not allowed to use guns anymore. or what? He used to shoot at people all the time, now he just outsources his kills to gravity/his murder drone? When you're on a rescue mission, the fewer bullets that are flying around the better.
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Happy that GSP/Batroc survived and would expect him in more episodes. Really sweet double leg in that fight Figured it would have been more fast action packed of an episode but really digging them getting into their personal life/relationships and what's going on them them.
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