Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

SchnorkIes posted:

based on what housing prices have done in this region as it gets more and more techie, they're working SOME kind of job where they can afford a million in a place where houses were 200k a few years ago

yes I’m sure that’s the only reason for house prices rising

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

SchnorkIes posted:

did you have side effects? it's a promising vaccine, I think zoetis has had success with the same synthetic protein approach in their veterinary vaccine

Yeah, I felt tired after the first shot, and after the second shot, for ~2 days I felt like Fiz now feels: like I was simultaneously getting over a horrible cold *and* had just been tackled into the turf by prime-era Ray Lewis on my left hand side. My HRV dropped by 2/3rds for a solid week. So if that was the placebo I Would Like A Word With My Brain.

I've been following the UK/SA results closely and overall am excited about it. I hope it is approved; even though it might not have much of a role in the US, I think it's one of the vaccines that is going to play a big role in vaccinating 1-2b of the global south, given its relative stability.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


mawarannahr posted:

they should make ten, twenty, a hundred times more, and so should you.

kreeningsons
Jan 2, 2007

theres now been a full month of rising daily case counts in baltimore, based on the 7 day avg.



march 1: baltimore city schools reopen for optional in person learning
march 5: baltimore announces that strip clubs can reopen
march 9: maryland governor announces statewide 100% capacity for restaurants, retail, fitness centers and religious establishments (local jursdictions can still have more restrictive rules)
march 8: baltimore public libraries now open at 25% capacity
march 12: baltimore announces support for in person fans at limited capacity stadium for MLB game on April 8th
march 12: baltimore mayor posts a meme suggesting people be responsible for st patricks day
march 17: baltimore indoor dining capacity will increase from 25% to 50%, outdoor from 50% to 75%, effective march 26
march 18: baltimore recreation centers allowed to reopen april 5

i'm not looking forward to the next month. my instinct is that reopenings will result in new levels of sustained contact in novel populations which is more likely to cause cases to explode. singular events like st patricks day won't help either, even with the tepid warnings from our mayor. around 11% of the city is fully vaccinated which is near the bottom of the state by county. i think we're tracking at like 0.1% or 0.2% of the population vaccinated each day? don't think that's gonna be enough to stave off a surge.

https://twitter.com/LearyOnLaw/status/1369276450801676288?s=20

https://twitter.com/MayorBMScott/status/1367944244732821509?s=20

https://twitter.com/BaltimoreBrew/status/1369682747636256773?s=20

https://twitter.com/prattlibrary/status/1368940398899511300?s=20

https://twitter.com/HellgrenWJZ/status/1370457552253820933?s=20

https://twitter.com/MayorBMScott/status/1370554027226898435?s=20

https://twitter.com/KeithDFox45/status/1372274607709904896?s=20

https://twitter.com/TreWardWBAL/status/1372688332459798528?s=20

Petey
Nov 26, 2005

For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?
oh @fiz i meant to say one of the reasons you might be getting so wrecked by the first dose of moderna is because i think there was research that if you already had covid, the immuno response after your first shot of the mRNAs is functionally the same (and perhaps even better) than the second shot for most people

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

SchnorkIes posted:

based on what housing prices have done in this region as it gets more and more techie, they're working SOME kind of job where they can afford a million in a place where houses were 200k a few years ago

"techies" aren't the ones driving the housing market insane and your anger is so misplaced that you're giving the literal capital class responsible for this a total pass

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

kreeningsons posted:

i'm not looking forward to the next month. my instinct is that reopenings will result in new levels of sustained contact in novel populations which is more likely to cause cases to explode. singular events like st patricks day won't help either, even with the tepid warnings from our mayor. around 11% of the city is fully vaccinated which is near the bottom of the state by county. i think we're tracking at like 0.1% or 0.2% of the population vaccinated each day? don't think that's gonna be enough to stave off a surge.

this is some crucial analysis and this post is S-tier

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

I can understand the complaint about tech workers who make enough where they are able to vault themselves into the capitalist class by becoming landlords or whatever

but that's definitely not most tech workers, and in SV 300k/year is probably not even enough to buy a home (?)

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

Paradoxish posted:

"techies" aren't the ones driving the housing market insane and your anger is so misplaced that you're giving the literal capital class responsible for this a total pass

techies marry each other and dont have kids, so when they move into a family friendly area they are able to pay way over asking and spark a frenzy, theres def plenty of insane speculation from retail investors on the upper leg of the K shaped recovery just like we see in stocks

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

actionjackson posted:

I can understand the complaint about tech workers who make enough where they are able to vault themselves into the capitalist class by becoming landlords or whatever

but that's definitely not most tech workers, and in SV 300k/year is probably not even enough to buy a home (?)

2x300k is 600k, times 3-4 (rule of thumb for house price back in the day) is like 1.8-2.4M, which is a reasonable detached home in San Jose

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

SchnorkIes posted:

techies marry each other and dont have kids, so when they move into a family friendly area they are able to pay way over asking and spark a frenzy, theres def plenty of insane speculation from retail investors on the upper leg of the K shaped recovery just like we see in stocks

my area is overwhelmed with corporate suits because of a massive surge of corporate construction. they all live in insanely overpriced apartments downtown because every house around here goes contingent instantly. it's not "techies" buying them, it's people like the rear end in a top hat investor (read: landlord) who bought the house in front of me to rent out and who literally tried to dig up my access to the road so he could take my house to turn into a rental property.

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
A lot of fighting in this thread right now, so I think it is important to remember that we've all had it rough during the pandemic. Case in point:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-20/summer-holidays-lost-to-covid-threaten-europe-s-red-hot-stocks posted:

Summer Holidays Lost to Covid Threaten Europe’s Red-Hot Stocks
(..)
“The recent rerating of the airlines and airports implies many are priced for a recovery in time for peak summer,” James Goodall, an analyst at Redburn, wrote in a report Friday in which he cut his ratings on Ryanair, budget carrier Wizz Air Holdings Plc and airport operator Fraport AG. “A recovery by summer is not locked in.”
(..)

Ham Cheeks
Nov 18, 2012

Feeling hammy

facetoucher cat posted:

Thank you for this.

I'm getting a bit better than at least I was last week, it comes in waves, and have just been forcing myself to sleep wherever I'm comfy so I don't cause too much ruckus. A lot of people (at least in my circles) are so eager to spout support for people who suffer from mental illness but when it's right in their face they are like, "LOL WTF NO. I mean supporting by changing my profile pic"

I have found that Cat TV is super relaxing to watch and my cat agrees



Thank you again, I'd hug you if I was able

also sending my hugs and support, your cat stories and pics have also been a bright spot for me

speaking of, it's tax season

Ham Cheeks has issued a correction as of 17:13 on Mar 20, 2021

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Paradoxish posted:

"techies" aren't the ones driving the housing market insane and your anger is so misplaced that you're giving the literal capital class responsible for this a total pass

depends on where one is. most of the country they aren’t. I think they are in say the east side Seattle burbs. maybe it’s fair to say they are part of one of the feedback loops loving up housing but they certainly aren’t the only one.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


mawarannahr posted:

they should make ten, twenty, a hundred times more, and so should you.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



SchnorkIes posted:

It's not socialism to think "we could be a nation of entirely petit-boug assholes on the backs of the developing world"

oh god the specter of LF is haunting me today

welcome to MTW thought, pull up a chair it's a great place to be once you go fully insane

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

Paradoxish posted:

my area is overwhelmed with corporate suits because of a massive surge of corporate construction. they all live in insanely overpriced apartments downtown because every house around here goes contingent instantly. it's not "techies" buying them, it's people like the rear end in a top hat investor (read: landlord) who bought the house in front of me to rent out and who literally tried to dig up my access to the road so he could take my house to turn into a rental property.

my old street of 100k houses got bought up in the 500s-800s about 50/50 by nice childless couples in their late 20s with cali plates and foreign speculators

edit: i was renting a hilarious slum house but moved after it took 3 months to replace a collapsed room, and my landlord is still renting it out dirt cheap and semi-collapsing and I hope it ruins property values forever on that street bc that dude gave no fucks about making money even, he'll never sell or teardown and rebuild, the guys a moron

poll plane variant has issued a correction as of 17:10 on Mar 20, 2021

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

Epic High Five posted:

welcome to MTW thought, pull up a chair it's a great place to be once you go fully insane

i dont condone it but drat it feels good

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/p_evans/status/1373085422797082624

quote:

As BioNTech's profile has grown during the pandemic, so has its value, adding much-needed funds the company will be able to use to pursue its original goal of developing a new tool against cancer.

The vaccine made by BioNTech-Pfizer and U.S. rival Moderna uses messenger RNA, or mRNA, to carry instructions into the human body for making proteins that prime it to attack a specific virus. The same principle can be applied to get the immune system to take on tumours.

"We have several different cancer vaccines based on mRNA," said Tureci.

Asked when such a therapy might be available, Tureci said "that's very difficult to predict in innovative development. But we expect that within only a couple of years, we will also have our vaccines [against] cancer at a place where we can offer them to people."

Uhhhhhhh holy poo poo

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo
My main beef with techies is that theyre wokewashed utter nazis who need to see a tent city while they drink their $30 fair trade coffee, and if I lived on a street of other high wage workers (even frankly douchey petit-boug ones like doctors) I wouldnt be as irritated

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



most people I know working in tech are chilling in the 10-15/hr region, but I also don't know many programmers. As a field it's very proletarianized, especially the customer facing positions, but it's most prominent members believe they are the upper crust and the culture will bend over backwards to maintain this delusion right up to the point where they can be replaced by a robot or made redundant by the REAL powerbrokers

SchnorkIes posted:

my old street of 100k houses got bought up in the 500s-800s about 50/50 by nice childless couples in their late 20s with cali plates and foreign speculators

edit: i was renting a hilarious slum house but moved after it took 3 months to replace a collapsed room, and my landlord is still renting it out dirt cheap and semi-collapsing and I hope it ruins property values forever on that street bc that dude gave no fucks about making money even, he'll never sell or teardown and rebuild, the guys a moron

drat that's a big rear end street

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

MorrisBae posted:

Uhhhhhhh holy poo poo

This was Moderna's whole concept and the doses needed to make it work were so high the drugs became unsafe - they could only make normal vaccines, where the necessary doses are lower, work. Not sure if Pfizer's superior tech for actually transporting the stuff into cells will help here, but we'll see.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Bar Ran Dun posted:

depends on where one is. most of the country they aren’t. I think they are in say the east side Seattle burbs. maybe it’s fair to say they are part of one of the feedback loops loving up housing but they certainly aren’t the only one.

Yes, but this is a local phenomenon in extremely desirable areas where salaries are very high.

I live in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the country and I know one tech worker who (probably) makes low six-figures. Most programming jobs around here are going to pay $70-80k/year which is loving great, but still not enough to create households that magically turn into landlords. I don't know anyone who wouldn't laugh at the idea that programmers are just falling into jobs with comparable pay to doctors.

lil poopendorfer
Nov 13, 2014

by the sex ghost

Pingui posted:

Possibly the phase 3 Pfizer interim trial data released two months after that post or maybe he waited for the full report. It could also be rich and powerful people going out of their way to procure a dose for themselves or realizing no other help was coming than the vaccines.

Maybe the sheer amount of people vaccinated with minimal side effects compared to COVID-19 or maybe he never changed his mind, but isn't due for a shot before a year has passed.

Are you trying to argue that changing your mind in the face of data is wrong?

What data? Long term safety is still unknown

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

Paradoxish posted:

Yes, but this is a local phenomenon in extremely desirable areas where salaries are very high.

I live in one of the highest cost-of-living areas in the country and I know one tech worker who (probably) makes low six-figures. Most programming jobs around here are going to pay $70-80k/year which is loving great, but still not enough to create households that magically turn into landlords. I don't know anyone who wouldn't laugh at the idea that programmers are just falling into jobs with comparable pay to doctors.

those are like THE two jobs to have around here, programmer and doctor

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
there just wasnt enough money in cancer research to discover this before covid came along

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

SchnorkIes posted:

My main beef with techies is that theyre wokewashed utter nazis who need to see a tent city while they drink their $30 fair trade coffee, and if I lived on a street of other high wage workers (even frankly douchey petit-boug ones like doctors) I wouldnt be as irritated

sounds like you need therapy dude

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

SchnorkIes posted:

My main beef with techies is that theyre wokewashed utter nazis who need to see a tent city while they drink their $30 fair trade coffee, and if I lived on a street of other high wage workers (even frankly douchey petit-boug ones like doctors) I wouldnt be as irritated

Remember when you were probed last week for supporting genocide

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Louisgod posted:

sounds like you need therapy dude

this is an unhelpful thing to say to someone who has complaints related to not being rich in the USA :/

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

MorrisBae posted:

Remember when you were probed last week for supporting genocide

all I said was the US has no leg to stand on re: israel, and that if all israeli science should be considered unusably unethical, then so should american research

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

SchnorkIes posted:

those are like THE two jobs to have around here, programmer and doctor

Programmers who make above $150k are in like the top 10% compensation range for the industry. It's not the norm at all, even though it's a career that pays exceptionally well. People who aren't working for a handful of companies or who don't move into management are going to top out well below that point.

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

SchnorkIes posted:

all I said was the US has no leg to stand on re: israel, and that if all israeli science should be considered unusably unethical, then so should american research

SchnorkIes posted:

euphronius posted:

Israel is an apartheid state that is currently practicing some heinous acts of genocide wrt to coronavirus vaccines. maybe they are the only nation reporting stats but maybe we could use others. or do whatever you want I think it’s important to mention tho
Eh they're better than the US in p much every way, we have no room to talk

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Bathtub Cheese
Jun 15, 2008

I lust for Chinese world conquest. The truth does not matter before the supremacy of Dear Leader Xi.
If 2020 and COVID in particular demonstrated any lesson to the chud-whisperer school of disaffected libs..er..socialists (as of 2016) it’s that American “proletarians” can often be genuinely contemptible people and no clever analysis of social structure will negate their culpability or change how they act.

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
curing cancer lol we will all live like gods for the next 10-20 years before well ya know...good run though

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo
yeah i stand by that lol, the scope in space and time of their sins pales in comparison to great power imperialism past and present and it's kind of weird how much they get singled out

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
So I realized that if you're vaccinated, now is the best time to go out and do stuff in places that are still locked down

From what I can tell via a quick Google search, restaurants are at 25% capacity right now in illinois. So if youre vaxxed up, you go out, you aren't crammed in with a million other people, no one seated on the same bench next to you pressed against your jacket you put down as a barrier. People aren't as loud since there's less noise to shout over

If you wait til summer , restaurants will be at 100% capacity , everyone packed in, so not only 4x as many people breathing on you but they're yelling and shouting and spreading droplets further

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos

SchnorkIes posted:

yeah i stand by that lol, the scope in space and time of their sins pales in comparison to great power imperialism past and present and it's kind of weird how much they get singled out

goddamn dude

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

mawarannahr posted:

this is an unhelpful thing to say to someone who has complaints related to not being rich in the USA :/

tbf we all need therapy

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo

MorrisBae posted:

goddamn dude

The US genocided hundreds of millions of people but you use US technology and products constantly lmao

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

mastershakeman posted:

If you wait til summer , restaurants will be at 100% capacity , everyone packed in, so not only 4x as many people breathing on you but they're yelling and shouting and spreading droplets further

Also, variants against which the vaccines are less effective will be much more widespread.

I would absolutely not eat at a restaurant, but there are a lot of activities for when now is a better time than later.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply