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Douche Wolf 89
Dec 9, 2010

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Chido posted:

Also I told her older sister to tell her I'm pretty angry right now so she can't come check on "her baby," and she hid in her room when I went downstairs to take some trash to the recycle bin. Good, at least she's aware she hosed up.

Stomping around, angrily blaming a child for your own negligent pet ownership so hard they hide from you. Gotta turn this learning experience on animal care into a traumatic experience.

Edit: I'm glad this is top of the page. A fox on their loathsome henhouse.

Douche Wolf 89 has a new favorite as of 20:06 on Mar 20, 2021

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Regarde Aduck posted:

I think if they didn't become incels they were always going to be... unpleasant. I don't like to declare people unable to change or victims of fate but from what I can tell it's just one way of expressing a complete lack of self-control and responsibility combined with a giant ego. The ego is warped by years of self-hate but its still there, inverted, because the conceit is 'if it wasn't for the fact i'm short/ugly/a white man/weak chinned/poor i'd be a pussy slaying demon. They hate 'chads' not because they find them obnoxious, it's just because its not them. They deserve to rule and have a giant harem of 'bitches'. If there was no internet and so no incel community they would have still turned into giant unpleasant assholes. There are many ways loud idiots who think nothing is ever their fault manifest.
Yeah, having a terrible personality isn't the result of being an incel, it's how you end up being one. A woman can tolerate a lot of flaws in a man if he's simply lovable enough to make putting up with them worth it. An rear end in a top hat, on the other hand, has nothing but good looks going for them, so obviously that would be what they get hung up on.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Marcade posted:

Dickless Cave Goblin would be a hell of a username. Also, you're good people Dick. Good People Dick, another fine user name

Genuinely considering either of these as a name change holy poo poo.

Also, thanks :unsmith:


Honestly, I think incelism starts really young- young men not getting the mental health care and socialization that's healthy, combined with a lot of other factors. But smarter people than me have spilled a ton of ink on it.

DicktheCat has a new favorite as of 20:15 on Mar 20, 2021

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


DicktheCat posted:

Honestly, I think incelism starts really young- young men not getting the mental health care and socialization that's healthy, combined with a lot of other factors. But smarter people than me have spilled a ton of ink on it.

Yeah I remember being a spotty 16 year old all hyped up on puberty and wishing I was attractive and ripped because that's the only thing girls gave a poo poo about. I feel like the incel communities grab boys from around this age and feed their resentment in a completely unhealthy way.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I think a lot of teens would feel a lot better about themselves in that regard if they just ever thought to take a good long look at their own parents and ask themselves how they ended up being together in the first place if that idea was true, but at that age, you just don't have that kind of self-awareness.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

DicktheCat posted:

I always wonder how incels explain away people like myself. I'm 5'3", in crippling debt, mentally ill, and my looks vary from middling ok on a good day to feral cave goblin on a bad one. I literally have none of the poo poo these dudes think it's a "get laid free" card, but I've been with my spouse for 13 years now, 6 of them married.


All I can think is they'd retort that I'm being cheated on, and try to put out of their minds that a tiny little cave gobbo with a dick length in the negative is recovering from his issues and learning to be a happy, better husband while they're miserable. I feel genuinely bad for them, and wish they would try therapy.

I'm also a manlet and just like to ask if they think all the ladies are repulsed by the likes of my 5'5'' bros Dan Radcliffe and Kit Harrington, or maybe there's some other reason no one wants them around

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Every time incels come up in conversation there's always some goons rushing to post "wow, they think being 6 foot makes the difference? I'm married even through I'm 4 foot tall with skin the consistency of frozen pizza and my dick got confiscated by the UN!" as though incel beliefs are have a logical throughline that can be defeated with counter examples. It's like posting DNA research on storm front to show them that black people don't actually have gorilla genes, they're not interested in facts because they've already decided what the truth is and nothing is going to persuade them otherwise. also both groups should be herded into the sea

some plague rats has a new favorite as of 20:55 on Mar 20, 2021

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Kirk Vikernes posted:

Ah, yes. The classic "person I don't like is a pedo"-bit. Nurge's posting left a lot to be desired but nothing in his rap sheet indicates he was a pedophile. The post that finished him off was a doctored post suggesting that Logan had beat Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka up with brass knuckles.

You can still look at his rap sheet, though I don't know why talking about "Virtuous Pedophiles" was only a regular ban.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3749412&pagenumber=674&perpage=40#post504046578

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
It's called bragging, OP

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
That's the point people are making, though: that it clearly doesn't match up with their first-hand experience of reality at all.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Being tall and handsome alone wouldn't save them.

But it is pretty awesome.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Cardiovorax posted:

That's the point people are making, though: that it clearly doesn't match up with their first-hand experience of reality at all.

Well obviously not, but you don't need first hand experience of being a gross nerd to hear what incels say and know they're full of poo poo and just making excuses for their own horrible personalities and behaviour. Coming up with counter examples treats incels like they're expressing a coherent worldview and are simply inexperienced and misinformed instead of deliberately coming up with an ever-shifting kaleidoscope of resentments and justifications for why it's the world's fault because they're lovely worthless little goblins. There's no counter example gross enough to shake them free of it but god bless everyone who tries

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I'm sure it's just people expressing their disbelief and exasperation with the idea, not trying to disprove it to anyone.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



The incel mock thread that largely gravitated toward throwing incels in volcanoes was pretty fun, as I recall.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

The only thing I remember about that incel mock thread was the Reddit post about a thought experiment where, if you allow yourself to be given a blowjob by a dude in the middle of a football stadium where the crowd is allowed to heckle you and throw food (the blowjob-giver is in a protected plexiglass box), and also this is broadcast on national television, you'll gain the incredible romantic and sexual attraction power of an average woman, or something? It was an impressively elaborate "this is my fetish I'm disguising as discourse" effort.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

pentyne posted:

Wasn't that the same mod who lost their poo poo because they told a 10 year old nephew to watch their chickens and the 10 year old didn't know how to handle chickens and the one named Megatron got loose and attacked another one?

lol at "your rapsheet is long" being a qualifier there. That was only their ninth entry!

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

#notallincels

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I thought he would flip a coin to decide if you’d get a day probe for it. That may have been another mod, though, a coin flip seems too fun for BroJo

Late but that was Eggplant Wizard.

pentyne posted:

Wasn't that the same mod who lost their poo poo because they told a 10 year old nephew to watch their chickens and the 10 year old didn't know how to handle chickens and the one named Megatron got loose and attacked another one?

The Chicken Mod would then go on to probate FYAD poster Twisty after he asked an innocuous question in the Chicken Thread. This led to some great mockery. I don't remember the exact quote but it involved the phrase "murdering chickens with ACDC Hadokens"

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Late but that was Eggplant Wizard.

nah, BroJo definitely played that game. At the time my main interaction with PYF was the meme thread and it was always fun because of all the popcorn eating gifs that came out when someone posted the forbidden meme

I kinda wish something like it would come back. frivolous probes for stupid poo poo that you can choose not to trigger are the best

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



RFC2324 posted:

frivolous probes for stupid poo poo that you can choose not to trigger are the best

The cursed images thread is pretty frivolous with probes like that, the rule just isn’t as fun

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Snowy posted:

The cursed images thread is pretty frivolous with probes like that, the rule just isn’t as fun

Yeah, the element of chance brought a lot to the no1curr rule. Cursed image or probe is just... eh. There.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Ammat The Ankh posted:

The Chicken Mod would then go on to probate FYAD poster Twisty after he asked an innocuous question in the Chicken Thread. This led to some great mockery. I don't remember the exact quote but it involved the phrase "murdering chickens with ACDC Hadokens"

Chido (the person pentyne quoted) wasn't a mod, just a regular user.

The AC/DC Hadokens mod was Pile of Kittens. I may be biased but I honestly don't think her particular claim to fame was very funny. What happened was a pretty awful accident: the temperatures were plummeting overnight that winter and she was worried about how her conure would handle it. With every good intention she put a space heater near the bird's cage and it died overnight of heat exhaustion. The fact that this became what she was known for was always pretty sad to me.

LITERALLY A BIRD has a new favorite as of 01:21 on Mar 21, 2021

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Snowy posted:

The cursed images thread is pretty frivolous with probes like that, the rule just isn’t as fun

The Cursed Images rule is cool and good and should remain. They tried relaxing it a few months ago and it definitely made the thread worse.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 28 hours!
Ultra Carp

Nuns with Guns posted:

...The Pet Island mod who roasted a parrot. etc.

Doesn't seem like they're a meaty enough bird to bother roasting, but it takes all kinds I suppose

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Vim Fuego posted:

Doesn't seem like they're a meaty enough bird to bother roasting, but it takes all kinds I suppose

how big is an ortolan

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Vim Fuego posted:

Doesn't seem like they're a meaty enough bird to bother roasting, but it takes all kinds I suppose

Can't be worse than a pigeon.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3962781&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

:shepface:

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus



:ohno:

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
I've tried clicking that link 4 times because with every sentence I read I exit again

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
I read that post when it was posted and it's not any better in context. And he even had an avatar and text about it for ages. I never liked that loving creep.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
hoo-boy I have seen people get perma'd for so much less than that

Horizon Burning
Oct 23, 2019
:discourse:
but was it well-sourced?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
2014 was a different time, okay?

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
Even worse, it's about Suetonius, and how a lot of the perceptions about Roman sex orgies and all the gross terrible things that were alleged to have gone on were mostly historical fiction no one really believes.

I can't imagine a world where in some schorlarly Ancient History journal someone is publishing an article that what Suetonius wrote was about Emperor Tiberius was doing all that crazy sex stuff was impossible, and the response article to it tries to explain the mechanics of getting a baby to perform oral sex because they believe it to be true.

Cyrano was tainted the moment he wrote the "well sourced" poo poo about PCOS Bill's bigotry and took a hard line to defend it repeatedly. Even his supporters tried to claim that as an academic he was bamboozled by a sourced, cited article like academia brain makes you incapable of making objective judges on the quality of an argument because it cites sources. This is just kind of more evidence of the brain rot that anything comprehensively explained is fundamentally okay from a facts are facts standpoint.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Being tall and handsome alone wouldn't save them.

But it is pretty awesome.

If you waved a magic wand and made them all notably tall and handsome many (not all) of them probably wouldnt be "incels" anymore, because women would actively seek them out. I doubt most are committed enough to hating staceys to reject an open offer of interest from an attractive woman. The relationships wouldn't last and they'd still be miserable fucks, because they'd still just be some other variety of toxic entitled rear end in a top hat dude.

I can sympathize with sad anxious young men who have serious difficulties getting into relationships, online dating as an average to below average dude can be kinda ego crushing, but going from "I saw multiple ladies profiles today where they had height requirements up front, and that made me sad" to "And thats why I propose we transplant dog brains into femoid bodies and assign these to incels as sex slaves" is completely insane, and means you were probably well on the way to some sort of fash radicalization before you got caught up in the incel poo poo.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You'd be surprised, Eliot Rodgers literally expected women to throw themselves at him because he was well-off. Anger and desperation are pretty easy to detect, especially from people with basically no social skills.

I'm pretty sure a common theme with incels is boys being raised with basically zero real social education or guidance, usually in isolated suburbs where they have no social opportunities outside school or the internet, who basically get stuck in the mindset of a desperate, insecure teenager who's convinced everyone around them is having sex except for them and has absolutely no concept of how to live up to the expectations placed on them except what they can supposedly glean through pop culture (ie, romcoms and pornography) and falls into toxic online communities that are the only ones offering them any supposed support and answers to their questions.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Ghost Leviathan posted:

You'd be surprised, Eliot Rodgers literally expected women to throw themselves at him because he was well-off. Anger and desperation are pretty easy to detect, especially from people with basically no social skills.

I'm pretty sure a common theme with incels is boys being raised with basically zero real social education or guidance, usually in isolated suburbs where they have no social opportunities outside school or the internet, who basically get stuck in the mindset of a desperate, insecure teenager who's convinced everyone around them is having sex except for them and has absolutely no concept of how to live up to the expectations placed on them except what they can supposedly glean through pop culture (ie, romcoms and pornography) and falls into toxic online communities that are the only ones offering them any supposed support and answers to their questions.

he was also a fan of the game of thrones

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Inceldom has way more to do with toxic personality than physical attractiveness.

The worst one I’ve ever known was tall and buff. He successfully gameified working out with the help of r/fitness. Anyone can get fit it doesn’t make you not a boring shitlord, so he just got more women swiping right on him before realizing he was a creep and backing the gently caress away.

(also he was my roommate)

Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 15:32 on Mar 21, 2021

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider

Ghost Leviathan posted:

You'd be surprised, Eliot Rodgers literally expected women to throw themselves at him because he was well-off. Anger and desperation are pretty easy to detect, especially from people with basically no social skills.

I'm pretty sure a common theme with incels is boys being raised with basically zero real social education or guidance, usually in isolated suburbs where they have no social opportunities outside school or the internet, who basically get stuck in the mindset of a desperate, insecure teenager who's convinced everyone around them is having sex except for them and has absolutely no concept of how to live up to the expectations placed on them except what they can supposedly glean through pop culture (ie, romcoms and pornography) and falls into toxic online communities that are the only ones offering them any supposed support and answers to their questions.

Thank you for the thoughtful words, but Eliot Rodger never posted on this forum

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Aug 6, 2019

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Larry Parish and co should be unbanned and given gift certs on the house.

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