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Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
https://twitter.com/flatearthjape/status/1373906954473463811?s=21

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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/MarvinDeux/status/1374344030281170947

https://twitter.com/woodaba2/status/1374301991007031301

https://twitter.com/mothxwings/status/1374066122052501510

trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth

Me, watching this video: This is rad as gently caress, I hope it's not an ad for something lovely or lame

Me, at the end of the video: It could have been worse, I will enjoy the ad guilt free.

Pug Smugly
Apr 5, 2011
https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/1374527864666656770?s=19

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

trapped mouse posted:

Me, watching this video: This is rad as gently caress, I hope it's not an ad for something lovely or lame

Me, at the end of the video: It could have been worse, I will enjoy the ad guilt free.

Murphy's is OK, as I recall.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


https://twitter.com/vg_history/status/1373026071608655876?s=20
A lot of good avatar potential here

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Martin Gaksch got that console thumb

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

https://twitter.com/slimyswampghost/status/1374416080404324357?s=20

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Murphy's is OK, as I recall.

it's better than Guinness and I will die on this hill

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
I remember this ad coming out in the late 90s in Ireland and it caused quite the stir I tell you

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1374521429484478465

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

My current mood is pro open offices just because if you complain you'll end up with a cubicle again.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
CIs all overlap but I appreciate the sentiment and expect if they haven't started already some building or hvac engineer takes this forward to do the study using fluid dynamic principles proving some sort of minimum cube height we need to work as a useful sneeze guard in different air exchange rate scenarios

xtal posted:

My current mood is pro open offices just because if you complain you'll end up with a cubicle again.
I would get ready for offices and restaurants to get re-cubified after all this.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

xtal posted:

My current mood is pro open offices just because if you complain you'll end up with a cubicle again.

I dream of a cubical, are you kidding me? My own space that is separate from everyone else that someone has to physically enter in order to talk to me? How is that not better than an open office where everyone is just around me all the time and I have zero privacy or breathing room?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It's even worse for people who have been able to WFH with zero impact on productivity/output who are going to be forced to go back because part of our civic religion is that people should suffer

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

feedmyleg posted:

I dream of a cubical, are you kidding me? My own space that is separate from everyone else that someone has to physically enter in order to talk to me? How is that not better than an open office where everyone is just around me all the time and I have zero privacy or breathing room?

Yeah, before covid I was in an open floor office with six people, and even with those few it could be plenty annoying. Even just one person being in a voice/video call is enough of a distraction to slow everything down. Conversely, you're subtly discouraged from properly coworking, cause two people talking (even quietly) is similarly distracting for everyone else. And yeah, with always being in sight of everyone you can't even really take a breather for five minutes.

Sure, every now and then a workshop with everybody physically present and working together can be very helpful, but for individual routine work it's poison.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

zoux posted:

It's even worse for people who have been able to WFH with zero impact on productivity/output who are going to be forced to go back because part of our civic religion is that people should suffer

Yep, that's me. I started this job remote and I will be expected, for no reason at all other than tradition, to start going into the office as soon as it opens.

lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

feedmyleg posted:

Yep, that's me. I started this job remote and I will be expected, for no reason at all other than tradition, to start going into the office as soon as it opens.

If you get paid enough, just hire a stand-in to go into the office for you.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

feedmyleg posted:

Yep, that's me. I started this job remote and I will be expected, for no reason at all other than tradition, to start going into the office as soon as it opens.

Greetings, to myself

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

https://twitter.com/VividDope/status/1373849165558657027

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
https://twitter.com/taurineyeen/status/1374380252613414925?s=21

Alexander Hamilton
Dec 29, 2008

Perestroika posted:

Yeah, before covid I was in an open floor office with six people, and even with those few it could be plenty annoying. Even just one person being in a voice/video call is enough of a distraction to slow everything down. Conversely, you're subtly discouraged from properly coworking, cause two people talking (even quietly) is similarly distracting for everyone else. And yeah, with always being in sight of everyone you can't even really take a breather for five minutes.

Sure, every now and then a workshop with everybody physically present and working together can be very helpful, but for individual routine work it's poison.

It's funny that study after study shows that open offices hurt productivity but never actually say the real reason they're popular: bosses like to stare out of their doorway and see what everyone is doing because they're insane and don't have any actual work to do.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Alexander Hamilton posted:

It's funny that study after study shows that open offices hurt productivity but never actually say the real reason they're popular: bosses like to stare out of their doorway and see what everyone is doing because they're insane and don't have any actual work to do.

That and cram more people into smaller places and to make sure they know they're beneath management. See also 90% of paperwork and reports. Make work to make sure the workers are working (no one cares about actual productivity as long as the illusion is there).


Here's a pic! Enjoy the free cafeteria food (that we will deduct from your pay!)

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Yeah one of the most important things to remember about humanity at all times is that we don't act based on some objective shared reality, we act based on our individual perceptions. Bosses perceive their employees as working harder when they can be micromanaged and monitored at all times, so they reject the studies that say open offices reduce productivity because to their subjective perception they're increasing productivity by being able to hover over all their employees' shoulders at once.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
https://twitter.com/karengeier/status/1374718997237805059?s=21


Yoshi Wins
Jul 14, 2013

Isn't one of the primary reasons for open offices that they save employers rent money, since they can cram more people in the same amount of space? Seems pretty typical of corporate short-sightedness to care more about that than the productivity of their employees.

Poops Mcgoots
Jul 12, 2010

Yoshi Wins posted:

Isn't one of the primary reasons for open offices that they save employers rent money, since they can cram more people in the same amount of space? Seems pretty typical of corporate short-sightedness to care more about that than the productivity of their employees.

I imagine another part of it is that it allows management to watch what everyone is doing, since you aren't hidden by a cubicle.

Edit: lol, I missed that multiple people already said this

Pandaal
Mar 7, 2020

There are definitely good reasons beyond “being hosed with by corporate” for returning to the office. Sure, a lot of sectors *supposedly* didn’t lose “productivity” in the short term but getting people together physically somehow being treated as a frivolity is kinda silly.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
But what about ~the team~

Pandaal
Mar 7, 2020

Hard agree that open workspaces are dumb though. They actually cost my company a lot of usable space and still had the negative effects on communication and work.

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




Should've used a flared base.
https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1374480496789393412?s=20

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

E: nm, we moved on.

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1374720170766311427?s=19

(read the article)

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
That's perfect.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


https://twitter.com/AndyLunique/status/1374524115114074113

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Lol that study was published in 2011. Open plan offices are here to stay because gently caress you that's why

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

It's cheaper and can't you simply work harder?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I'm afraid that I cannot work harder, because I do not want to. If you want to incentivize me to work harder, pay more money for more effort or let me work fewer hours for putting in more effort. I'm not staying late tonight so that my company can make more money while all that happens to me is losing a little more of my soul.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

The, uh, funny part is that we know how to accomplish it already: if you pay people good, living wages and treat them like humans they will work harder and care about the job/company/team/whatever. But corporations are terminally myopic so instead they'll go with the cool mini ping-pong table in the break room that only costs like $300. Oh, and they're not bringing pack the pension contributions they "temporarily suspended" because "in these uncertain times" and you now have a dental deductable of 5k. Work harder!

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


American labor practices are heavily influenced by the way that slave plantations were run. Old habits die really hard.

Anyway, some tweets.

https://twitter.com/bhangbhangducx/status/1374629944953692160

https://twitter.com/giantcat9/status/1374768941642436613

https://twitter.com/Werther23384415/status/1374479257234075653

https://twitter.com/StrangeCoisas/status/1374766215269384199

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


https://twitter.com/krfabian/status/1374798847650709504

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