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bewbies posted:lol @ the NHL and fans clutching at their pearls over this. literally every referee/ump/official/whatever in every sport and at every level does exactly the same thing either consciously or subconsiously. Tim Peel does in fact suck though one less poo poo ref is ok with me
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I mean, gently caress Tim Peel though for real.
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Better you than me, man
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lol thats cool
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rex rabidorum vires posted:I'm cool with Tim Peel Tim Peel'ing himself. There's some kind of majesty in that. Of course the NHL will continue to ref an 'even' game, but whatever. Refs: 80 & 20 are even numbers
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I feel like this is more about Tim Peel than the integrity of the game poo poo. They were probably just looking for a reason to toss him (which is fine because he sucks rear end) because nothing there is out of the ordinary or especially egregious.
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Apparently Tim Peel was already going to retire after the end of the 2020-21 season anyways though so this doesn't mean a whole lot
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Fixing a systemic issue by pinning it all on one guy, dusting off your hands and calling it resolved. A time honoured American tradition.
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Mar 24, 2021 14:50
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Slipped on his own Peel
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Cocaine Bear posted:Slipped on his own Peel Thread title
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ThinkTank posted:Fixing a systemic issue by pinning it all on one guy, dusting off your hands and calling it resolved. A time honoured American tradition.
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Ginette Reno posted:Tim Peel does in fact suck though one less poo poo ref is ok with me i mean, fire a guy for being incompetent, but it is silly to fire a guy for doing exactly what everyone else is doing up next, soccer fans horrified that refs call fouls differently when inside the penalty area, demand anthony taylor be offered as a sacrifice
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/1374581970580164611
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bewbies posted:up next, soccer fans horrified that refs call fouls differently when inside the penalty area, demand anthony taylor be offered as a sacrifice I'm ok with this. Also Mike Dean....and Atkinson. Jon Moss as well tbh.
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Guys I found the catch https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1374720009516224513?s=19 He is retiring after this season, this is not a punishment, just early retirement leave.
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Ginette Reno posted:Apparently Tim Peel was already going to retire after the end of the 2020-21 season anyways though so this doesn't mean a whole lot https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1374718406545575939?s=20 Yeah, so he gets a month off early. Not as big of a deal now.
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ThinkTank posted:Fixing a systemic issue by pinning it all on one guy, dusting off your hands and calling it resolved. A time honoured American tradition. 
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He was supposed to retire last season but got injured and pushed it to this year. So basically gently caress you forever Tim Peel you tainted yourself.
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ThinkTank posted:Fixing a systemic issue by pinning it all on one guy, dusting off your hands and calling it resolved. A time honoured American tradition.  His mistake was a hot mike. This poo poo has always and will always happen.
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https://twitter.com/doomocrat/status/1374720103917498378
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I'd guess we'll see a few weeks of games having a legit penalty differential before it all goes back to the same garbage come playoffs.
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I could maaayyybe see this playoffs having legit differentials but yeah I have a hard time imagining this won't be back by next season at the very latest. Those refs are hard-wired for poo poo like this and it's definitely going on at the AHL, ECHL and juniors level to various degrees too.
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Firing a guy one month from retirement but refusing to change anything systematically wrong with they way they call penalties sounds about right for the NHL. It’s ok if one team has way more PIMs than their opponent in any given game. The obsession with parity in this league sucks.
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WeaponX posted:It’s ok if one team has way more PIMs than their opponent in any given game. The obsession with parity in this league sucks. To us, sure. But the refs don't answer to us, they answer to the NHL which answers to the owners and if the owners start crabbing about their team of goons spending more time in the box than all the other teams you can be drat sure there's gonna be equalized penalties. It all goes back to the ol boys club just like everything else.
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The refs barely answer to the NHL either. The ref union shields them from almost all fuckups.
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Do Chris Lee next NHL you cowards
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https://twitter.com/junotheleafs/status/1374722679354257409 lmao
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I love the idea of pro sports having to come to terms publicly with what refs/officials/umps actually are: they're not judges. They're facilitators. There's a by-the-book foul on practically every possession in a basketball game; holding on every football play; every contested ball in a soccer game results in a push or a shirt pull; baseball's strike zone changes significantly with each different count, etc etc. In hockey, there are by-the-book checks from behind, interference, and stick penalties more or less constantly. No one actually wants these games called by-the-book...they'd be unwatchable and unplayable. The real ideal is fairness and consistency, which is always going to be fundamentally arbitrary. The problem is that the rulesets in pretty much all sports aren't set up for this sort of interpretation, so you basically have rulebooks that can't really ever be applied as they're written. My preference is that sports officiating should maximize my entertainment value above all else, which includes lots of bad calls, and then arguing about bad calls. And no more god dam loving replay.
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Alex Burrows is a saint. Put him in the Hall of Fame.
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https://twitter.com/petejolicoeur/status/1374725199438999556?s=21 Holy poo poo 
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bewbies posted:My preference is that sports officiating should maximize my entertainment value above all else, which includes lots of bad calls, and then arguing about bad calls. And no more god dam loving replay.  Scrutinizing video from a grainy low framerate camera pointed at the blueline in an attempt to take a goal off the board is unfun bullshit.
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I hate video review of any sort of subjective penalty call. It makes no sense and I don't want the game called by robots. Yelling at the refs is part of the fun of sports and I don't want that taken from me. Video review for anything other than "did the puck cross the line?" sucks.
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Aphrodite posted:The refs barely answer to the NHL either. The ref union shields them from almost all fuckups. The refs manage the games exactly as the league wants them to, which is exactly what TP did.
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ThinkTank posted:I hate video review of any sort of subjective penalty call. It makes no sense and I don't want the game called by robots. Yelling at the refs is part of the fun of sports and I don't want that taken from me. Video review for anything other than "did the puck cross the line?" sucks. Reviews suck rear end. I'm sick of goals being scored and then immediately you see three rear end in a top hat coaches hunched over the bench glaring at the monitor and seeing if they can get the goal overturned. Also quite enjoy when an exciting OT goal is scored and then we have to watch replay for five minutes and take all of the air out of the moment as we wait to see if someone was offsides twenty minutes ago.
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Peel wasn't fired. He just won't be assigned any games these last couple months before retirement. The refs are calling games the way the league office wants them called.
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The NHL's focus is on making sure that people think about the refs as little as possible and only act on bad reffing when it's impossible to ignore. The league has quietly let the number of penalties fall to an all time low because no call is less obvious than a bad one.
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Ginette Reno posted:Reviews suck rear end. I'm sick of goals being scored and then immediately you see three rear end in a top hat coaches hunched over the bench glaring at the monitor and seeing if they can get the goal overturned. Why is there even video review where the sole outcome is overturning a goal?
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give me robot refs in all sports yelling about refs gets tiring
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The NHL also has quietly let interference creep back into the game so that players don't get concussed skating around unimpeded all the time. It's not quite early 2000s levels but you can seriously run a lot of interference now without getting called. You have to be super blatant to get rung up.
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Ginette Reno posted:Reviews suck rear end. I'm sick of goals being scored and then immediately you see three rear end in a top hat coaches hunched over the bench glaring at the monitor and seeing if they can get the goal overturned. Have you tried following a team that doesn't cheat as much?
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