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DrDork posted:The other possibility is that some dumb program is running that's causing the CPU to stay in a high-freq state, even if it doesn't really need to be. I run across that from time to time with Chrome--presumably some website is coded poorly and my CPU ends up sitting at max clocks and like 5% load until I kill it. Oh can you share those?
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Ika posted:Oh can you share those? It's actually fantastically simple (which surprised me, given Windows and all). Make two .bat files that contain the following lines: code:Note that the percentages under 100% are based off the CPU's stock frequency, not an OC'ed value, so for me on my 5600X 80% * 3.7Ghz = 2.9Ghz, while 100% lets the OC kick in and runs at 4.8Ghz. You should also be able use these commands with anything that can kick off a program, like AutoHotkey or probably iCue, and make them into macro buttons or whatever if you don't like .bat files. Just make sure it can do both lines (and replace powercfg with powercfg.exe) since if you don't do the -setactive line it won't actually kick in.
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Thanks for sharing those. I might give them a try. Currently, I use Throttlestop profiles to limit my max core boost to base clock when I'm just doing day to day browsing or office stuff in case an app gets greedy. So base clock for the 10700k is 3.8ghz for 1-core through all-core load, and my "gaming" profile is 5.1 1-core through 4.9 all-core. Whenever the creator of TS finishes adding profiles for the TPL tab as well, you'll be able to control short-long tdp via profiles which is super handy, but more so for mobile devices.
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Thanks, may just place em on the desktop, or whip up something that triggers on process creation with a whitelist for high perf mode.
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Ika posted:Thanks, may just place em on the desktop, or whip up something that triggers on process creation with a whitelist for high perf mode. It sounds like it would be more convenient to have a button on your computer case to toggle those modes. Not sure what to label it though - "Supercharger"? "Afterburner"?
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ColTim posted:It sounds like it would be more convenient to have a button on your computer case to toggle those modes. Not sure what to label it though - "Supercharger"? "Afterburner"? Uber mode
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Paul MaudDib posted:Uber mode Nah, that makes it sound like you’re renting your computer out in the gig economy
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Mar 26, 2021 20:38
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ColTim posted:It sounds like it would be more convenient to have a button on your computer case to toggle those modes. Not sure what to label it though - "Supercharger"? "Afterburner"? Personally I ended up mapping them via iCue to keyboard macro buttons. I've got an old-style K95 with the full 18-pack, though, so I have buttons to spare. But you can do the same with AutoHotKey or whatever. But yeah, replicating the old-school TURBO case-button would be cool.
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Mar 26, 2021 20:46
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DrDork posted:But yeah, replicating the old-school TURBO case-button would be cool. As a kid i remember being confused about if the turbo was activated or not, and probably what it even did. My Ultima 7 performance experience was probably gimped half the time.
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Threadkiller Dog posted:As a kid i remember being confused about if the turbo was activated or not, and probably what it even did. My Ultima 7 performance experience was probably gimped half the time. Yeah, I remember having to actively ensure it was turned off when I was playing Wing Commander II or half the time the battle would start and I'd almost immediately die because game speed was directly tied to clock speed or somesuch and Turbo made it just way too fast.
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Mar 26, 2021 21:53
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ColTim posted:It sounds like it would be more convenient to have a button on your computer case to toggle those modes. Not sure what to label it though - "Supercharger"? "Afterburner"? Nice! Has to be RGB lit to make it conform to modern standards though.
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I'm 100% in favor of a universal RGB standard where turning them on requires you to press a button that throttles your CPU to 4.77 mhz.
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Mar 26, 2021 23:05
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K8.0 posted:I'm 100% in favor of a universal RGB standard where turning them on requires you to press a button that throttles your CPU to 4.77 mhz. Why? I like overclocking and RGB. Protip: you can turn down the brightness on a lot of things. My 4 case light strips look stunning on the lower brightness settings. I have like 200 LEDs now and I’m still running all noctua a12x25s for cooling and silence. Understanding rgb and overclocking is cool  I started the pandemic with no RGB lol. Lets hear it for free time!
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I consider my PC a tool and not a toy so its stuck in the deepest corner under my desk, so I avoid RGB, but I will admit some setups look awesome. To each their own. And if we are gonna add a physical gofaster stripe, might es well colorcode the state from on / medium / off
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Mar 27, 2021 00:08
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spunkshui posted:Why? Trap sprung, nerdlinger! Now everyone knows you enjoy things.
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NewFatMike posted:Trap sprung, nerdlinger! Now everyone knows you enjoy things. Lol what a nerd.
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spunkshui posted:I like overclocking and RGB. lmao this is legit awesome
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Mar 27, 2021 03:47
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spunkshui posted:Why? RGB is the worst trend because you need to run amazingly bad software to disable it. Since RGB lovers like you have made it impossible for sane people to build a computer that doesn't vomit rainbows without losing a bunch of performance and stability, I'm arguing it should be turned around on you. If someone has to suffer for RGB idiocy, it should be the RGB lovers.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:52
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Generally it’s the opposite?
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Mar 27, 2021 03:55
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Basically any RGB in my computer can be disabled by unplugging it. Not the small lights on the motherboard, I guess; but I might be able to disable them at a BIOS level. Never had a reason to bother checking.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:56
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is it silly to dislike RGB for environmental reasons? it's probably barely a blip...
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Rinkles posted:is it silly to dislike RGB for environmental reasons? it's probably barely a blip... nerdlingers getting ruffled over literally single-digit wasteage of energy is always great, love the nerds who unironically argue that using a wireless phone charger is literally killing our planet, most likely while they're surrounded by devices that pull far more phantom power than the 2 watts or so that a wireless charger "wastes"... and meanwhile they probably also ignore the energy used to manufacture and ship cables and stuff, if you break a couple cables over the life of the phone then you probably undid all the energy you saved by not using a wireless charger...
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Mar 27, 2021 04:25
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K8.0 posted:I'm 100% in favor of a universal RGB standard where turning them on requires you to press a button that throttles your CPU to 4.77 mhz. Kingston kind of did that unironically with that one SSD with so many LEDs that turning then on caused the controller to overheat and slow to a crawl
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K8.0 posted:RGB is the worst trend because you need to run amazingly bad software to disable it. Since RGB lovers like you have made it impossible for sane people to build a computer that doesn't vomit rainbows without losing a bunch of performance and stability, I'm arguing it should be turned around on you. If someone has to suffer for RGB idiocy, it should be the RGB lovers. #notlikeotherbuilders
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I've saved/repurposed at least two cases from the early 2000s just because they were completely closed cases where RGB doesn't leak out
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K8.0 posted:RGB is the worst trend because you need to run amazingly bad software to disable it. Since RGB lovers like you have made it impossible for sane people to build a computer that doesn't vomit rainbows without losing a bunch of performance and stability, I'm arguing it should be turned around on you. If someone has to suffer for RGB idiocy, it should be the RGB lovers. The motherboard has a bios switch to turn off its RGB and my strips. The Corsair ram and AIO have a "hardware lighting mode" that tells it what to do when the program is not running. None of this has anything to do with "stability." That's all voltage and stress tests. I could make my computer pitch black but its more fun for it to look like Elsa's castle. Recommending the poo poo out of these babies: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/corsair-vengeance-pro-rgb-(4x-8gb)-3200-mhz-ddr4-review,1.html spunkshui fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Mar 27, 2021 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've saved/repurposed at least two cases from the early 2000s just because they were completely closed cases where RGB doesn't leak out I have a second, spare Inwin Q500 in my attic just in case
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Paul MaudDib posted:and meanwhile they probably also ignore the energy used to manufacture and ship cables and stuff, if you break a couple cables over the life of the phone then you probably undid all the energy you saved by not using a wireless charger... The cables are so cheap though. It is really hard for me to believe that cell phone charger cable manufacturing uses a lot of energy.
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Regarding RGB I don't care about it , but my latest system had mostly Corsair components, with a Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB case with the provided fan hub, so the entire system lit up like rainbow machine after booting. But I found the Corsair ICUE software let me turn off most everything RGB in the case. Also I had my case sit on the floor, to the left of me, so I don't see any remaining RGB I couldn't easily turn off. I kinda like the pulsating color options for the front case fans I could set in ICUE, but I normally leave it off since it distracts when I'm gaming in a darkened room.
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silence_kit posted:The cables are so cheap though. It is really hard for me to believe that cell phone charger cable manufacturing uses a lot of energy. Friend recently complained how his son had broken the USB-port on his cellphone and he really wasn't interested on paying 69€ for the repair on a 200€ phone, and he was even less interested on doing the work himself. Those ports don't fail often, but I bet the expenses of a single failed port would cover the wireless charging resources for a whole lot of people.
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RGB is cool/fine, these are toys. I like to have it blaring for a few days when I buy something and then I turn it off. People who get worked up over it are fuckin weird. Ok cya
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I don't really mind LEDs at all, I just wish they could all be disabled or set without the use of software. That blows on graphics cards.
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spunkshui posted:The motherboard has a bios switch to turn off its RGB and my strips. A lot of the RGB control software causes system instability. It's consistently awful. And even when there are options to "disable" RGB, it usually still starts on. I don't ever want to see that vomit, they should always be off by default. Let people who want a clown PC run clown software that loses you 3% performance, crashes your PC, and runs at ring 0 so it's a massive security risk. e - by way of example, AFAIK there has still never been a version of iCue that doesn't cause BSODs for a significant number of users. When I mistakenly let Razer Chroma get installed a few months ago, it was causing gigabytes per day of memory leaks at ring 0 or 1 while doing literally nothing. All this software is like this, none of it is good, and also none of it actually properly disables the RGB 100% in any case I've ever seen. If all RGB was disabled by default and only people who clearly don't care if their system works right had to be victims of it, I'd have no complaints. K8.0 fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 27, 2021 |
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K8.0 posted:A lot of the RGB control software causes system instability. It's consistently awful. And even when there are options to "disable" RGB, it usually still starts on. I don't ever want to see that vomit, they should always be off by default. Let people who want a clown PC run clown software that loses you 3% performance, crashes your PC, and runs at ring 0 so it's a massive security risk. Im running a 30% overclock on my cpu, and a have 4 sticks of 3600 C18 ram im running at C16. 6 cores at 5ghz is plenty of performance for zoom/obs and gamming. Zero BSODs the entire pandemic. If you are having BSODs you have a problem that hasn't been solved. I don't.
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Yea sometimes the problem is RGB software
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MSI dragon center definitely fucks with my oc settings and Argus monitor fan profiles, but if I uninstall it leds turn back on. So now every reboot I have to kill the process after it loads and turns the leds off, and then reset my oc profiles in afterburner and ts. Dragon center is a buggy piece of poo poo.
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Well, I cant vouch for RGB software outside of iCUE because since I was starting from scratch with no glowing lights I stuck to one company. I always recommend people stick to just one. Id be cool if intel made something interesting for us to talk about lol
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You aren't excited about Rocket Lake?
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spunkshui posted:
Besides mistakes, you mean?
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