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Best Friends posted:So now that we're all on the same page that yes, the guidance has done a 180 on cloth masks, can someone explain why either this 180 does not affect public trust, or alternatively, why Fauci resigning for that 180 would be more harmful than him staying in light of that public trust issue.
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Best Friends posted:now that we're all on the same page that yes, the guidance has done a 180 on cloth masks, can someone explain why either this 180 does not affect public trust, or alternatively, why Fauci resigning for that 180 would be more harmful than him staying in light of that public trust issue. Opinion polling as recently as last month has indicated both Fauci and the CDC are still held in high regard by a large majority of Americans, so I don't believe the public trust issue is as significant as you seem to believe it is.
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Best Friends posted:now that we're all on the same page that yes, the guidance has done a 180 on cloth masks, can someone explain why either this 180 does not affect public trust, or alternatively, why Fauci resigning for that 180 would be more harmful than him staying in light of that public trust issue. Like a lot of things, the audience is people like my mom. Who gets most of her opinion from day time talk shows like Oprah and the View. Fauci for better or worse was given a positive reputation in that sphere. So people like my mom who wouldn't be intentionally malicious will listen to what he has to say. Whereas any new face biden comes up with will have to have that kind of good will built up. In that time period some idiot could be talking about the power of angels and pink Himalayan salt against covid, and people, like my mom, may get trapped by that
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Mar 30, 2021 05:41
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I'm starting to think I hate the american public
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Mar 30, 2021 05:49
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The late February 2020 guidance which, again, was amended amd corrected later was: -Everyone who is around a covid pos person wear a mask. -If you feel ill at all or are under monitoring for being exposed, wear a mask -Healthcare workers wear masks -Stop hoarding N95s -Otherwise, don’t bother with a mask By March 2020, these changes: DOD: all of you should be wearing a cloth masks basically Lways By April 2020, CDC said cloth masks as voluntary measure is wise. It was controversial not to recommend cloth masks even back in Feb of 2019. China was openly mocking the US for it in state news media, and plenty of epidemiologists, while acknowledging that hoarding N95s was bad, were pissed that cloth masks were being dismissed while we sprayed down outdoor surfaces with bleach. From April 3: “Governments should not have downplayed the importance of face masks [as a protective measure for the public], says Leiyu Shi, who researches comparative health systems and health policy at Johns Hopkins University, "because it will make them [seem] very foolish when they change their stance. Again and again," Shi says.” For Jeremy Lim, Adjunct Associate professor of public health from the National University of Singapore School of Public Health, East Asia's threshold for taking action on face masks and more potentially preventive measures was sparked by SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, another coronavirus that swept through the region in 2003. "Policymakers will always have to live with uncertainty and incomplete information,' Lim says. "For East Asian countries, the attitude was 'better to be safe than to be sorry.' " Asked about the new CDC position in the U.S., public health academics like Gostin and Shi believe the guideline changes in the U.S. could have come sooner, given the emerging evidence of potential benefits.” And of course: President Trump said last Friday, after the CDC updated guidelines were announced, that he would not follow them: "Sitting in the oval office, behind that beautiful resolute desk, the great resolute desk, I think wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens. I don't know, somehow I don't see it for myself."
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^great post Removed my white noise response Best Friends fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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It was Schrödinger’s virus, where it was spread via ærosol in the context of masks, but was completely droplet‐based in any other context.
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Grip it and rip it posted:I'm starting to think I hate the american public Now that's what I call an evergreen post
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Mar 30, 2021 07:17
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boat joke
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Ugh are we in 2022 yet
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Mar 30, 2021 09:03
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orange juche posted:Ugh are we in 2022 yet Vaguely surprised nobody made a mask with a little toggle over the nose so you can adjust it without touching the cloth. Maybe make it out of copper for a little extra power. I dunno.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwy-h1aisbE
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Yo, I saw this at the korean home goods store earlier. I... I'm gonna grab one when I go back. I do want to flaunt my immortality.
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Trump stating that wearing a mask wasn’t MAGA was more than enough to get me to ignore the advice of our country’s panel of medical experts, really
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March 2020 seriously will never loving end.
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Crab Dad posted:Vaguely surprised nobody made a mask with a little toggle over the nose so you can adjust it without touching the cloth. Maybe make it out of copper for a little extra power. I dunno. https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1376191143067725825?s=19 When I was working the election (SUNLIGHT BURRRRNS) I was really surprised at how many people were unmasking to drink stuff like COVID ignored you during coffee sips. Or the workers just openly eating at the tables in the gym. Probably a bit surprising that we as humans didn't invent some type of new N95-like thing since they only date back to 1995.
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CDC is now warning of a potential fourth wave as cases had a 12% upward jump in the past week, prompting some pretty serious warnings from health professionals. One thing to note: it’s young people who are getting sick now.quote:
Anecdotally speaking, even in the DC area, which had super high levels of compliance with social distancing and mask wearing, it seems like people are fatigued and have adopted the attitude of “deaths have dropped, the vaccines are here and I’ll have one within a few months, I can relax a bit.” I went out of town for a few days last week and was surprised when I got back by how many people I saw walking around without masks- so much so that I thought the DC government relaxed its mask mandate. I’m so over this pandemic and I’m glad I got my first dose yesterday, but I’m not gonna pretend for a second that this is anywhere close to over yet.
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https://twitter.com/LilNasX/status/1376731820067184642 What an absolute shitposting legend. This is like watching Gretzky in his prime.
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I don't care about his music, but I do like his shitposting.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:CDC is now warning of a potential fourth wave as cases had a 12% upward jump in the past week, prompting some pretty serious warnings from health professionals. One thing to note: it’s young people who are getting sick Crazy. Glad the CDC got out ahead of things and made sure that schools wouldn’t be a major contributor to the virus being brought into homes. quote:K-12 schools are seeing more outbreaks as long-term care facilities are seeing fewer. At the same time, people ages 10-19 are contracting the virus at the highest rates, while those over 70 — a larger percentage of whom are vaccinated — are seeing the smallest uptick in cases https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/march-29-2021-michigan-coronavirus-update/ Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 14:54
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we did that up here in ontario 3rd wave is now gonna be way bigger than 1st or 2nd, vaccinations are not gonna keep up and it's the working public that's getting hosed this round. that's me.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I don't care about his music, but I do like his shitposting. his new song and video slaps shits on fire
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Mar 30, 2021 15:00
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I thought the US already had a third of the country vaccinated (or was that a goal/projection?), Wouldn't that reduce the spread considerably, even if it's still quite a bit below herd immunity?
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MA-Horus posted:we did that up here in ontario   I'm working in a grocery store that serves older people in the morning and a substantial undergraduate student population in the evening. During the last couple of "lockdowns" nothing whatsoever changed in the store except they stopped selling alcohol at 8pm. Management doesn't want to deal with anti-maskers but if you confront them as an employee you'll get in trouble, so everyone just ignores them until they finish getting their groceries and leave (they overwhelmingly shop in the organic section). Protective measures are either hosed off entirely or only paid lip service to, like actually enforcing a limited store capacity. Honestly if it weren't for the masks you'd barely know there was a pandemic at all. e: But my late 80s grandparents got their second jab booked for June, so that's something 
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I thought the US already had a third of the country vaccinated (or was that a goal/projection?), Wouldn't that reduce the spread considerably, even if it's still quite a bit below herd immunity? Yea, but it's mostly old people and medical personnel at this point who are vaccinated right? Everyone else has basically only been eligible the last two or so weeks.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:CDC is now warning of a potential fourth wave as cases had a 12% upward jump in the past week, prompting some pretty serious warnings from health professionals. One thing to note: it’s young people who are getting sick now. Huh gee I guess all the kids partying for spring break the last few weeks wasn't a good idea.
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I went on a long walk with Monty this last weekend and walked through Del Ray, a little enclave of Northern Virginia. I don’t think I’ve ever seen restaurants that crowded. Even in the before times. No masks anywhere, even on people walking around. Pandemic is over!
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Per NYT, 16% of the USA is fully vaccinated, with 29% having at least one dose. There's still a lot of tinder lying around for the brushfire and it's really not helping that we're in cold/warm/cold cycles. Cold enough for idiots to fly down to Florida to get COVID, then they come home and it's too cold to be outside and they spread COVID. Then there's a week where it's warm (for everyone to socialize and get COVID), then it goes cold and everyone retreats indoors to spread COVID. You'd think that vaccines being an actual thing, with eligibility increasing, that people would just calm the gently caress down for another month or two. But nope, SPRING BREAK WOOOOOO I still have to catch myself to not be angry at people outdoors unmasked - the true problem is people indoors. But some of the Florida poo poo is people packed in so tight that they're swapping spit just by talking.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I thought the US already had a third of the country vaccinated (or was that a goal/projection?), Wouldn't that reduce the spread considerably, even if it's still quite a bit below herd immunity? Spring break is focused among the unvaccinated population. Also low take up rates. Also good weather has pushed people outside and people want to resume their lives.
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facialimpediment posted:Per NYT, 16% of the USA is fully vaccinated, with 29% having at least one dose. There's still a lot of tinder lying around for the brushfire and it's really not helping that we're in cold/warm/cold cycles. Cold enough for idiots to fly down to Florida to get COVID, then they come home and it's too cold to be outside and they spread COVID. Then there's a week where it's warm (for everyone to socialize and get COVID), then it goes cold and everyone retreats indoors to spread COVID. As long as it keeps killing the poor, minority, and urban dwellers, desantis considers this a win
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The CDC is also saying that it's safe to be three feet apart in schools. Funny how science lines up so well with what politicians want and it's bizarre how the science changes so much country to country. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0319-new-evidence-classroom-physical-distance.html
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1376908308112572418 https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1376908950189305857 Legislating from the minority is apparently less fun than performative lib-owning and getting paid more.
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Best Friends posted:The CDC is also saying that it's safe to be three feet apart in schools. Funny how science lines up so well with what politicians want and it's bizarre how the science changes so much country to country. Guidance is based on acceptable risk, risk levels are set politically.
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Crab Dad posted:his new song and video slaps He will have promoted his new album to #1 with almost zero marketing expenses, bulldoze madison avenue and hire this kid's team. Madonna and Lady Gaga have used this kind of shock publicity successfully but I dont't think they ever intentionally broke Kayfabe about it.
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He's in the new Logitech commercials, too. Because webcams need spokespeople.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1376908308112572418 Hope he gets the job and leaves right as Newsmax goes under from the Dominion Lawsuit. Couldn’t happen to a better person.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1376908308112572418 What is wrong with that man's face? I don't think I've ever seen a real person who gave me the uncanny valley effect before.
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Sacrist65 posted:He will have promoted his new album to #1 with almost zero marketing expenses, bulldoze madison avenue and hire this kid's team. I've been saying this lately. He is either a total genius or has the absolute best marketing people ever. It doesn't hurt that he is completely owning everyone on twitter/instagram.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:What is wrong with that man's face? I don't think I've ever seen a real person who gave me the uncanny valley effect before. Looks like a parody of a televangelist
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/axios/status/1376908308112572418 Definitely, all the grifters saw Rush getting hundreds of millions without having to worry about reelection or a tiny bit of accountability.
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