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Omobono posted:
We saw something like that too, but weren't going to mention it. 
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Quackles posted:We saw something like that too, but weren't going to mention it.  Well of course you weren't  I'm actually thinking really hard about that scenario, but apart from the spite factor (never underestimate the spite factor) I don't think it's actually better for Houses Gambol, Lethe and Pinchay's interests compared to simply putting 5 power each on NAY.
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Apr 1, 2021 08:59
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 Foreman House Pinchay has a serious enough interest in ensuring a Nay vote that we will pledge 5 power to this issue. If it will take the burden off of Gambol and Lethe, we even propose the following: For 3 coins, Pinchay will invest all 8 Power to Nay. This should allow you an advantage in the next vote, to say the least, since it would mean that Gambol and Lethe are the only houses with power to spend. What say you? e: This is, of course, contingent on Cyfoeth and Daucus agreeing to their own power investment. If they back out of theirs, then Pinchay's offer is similarly withdrawn. Blastinus fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 13:01
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Blastinus posted:
 Sitting Councilmember If House Pinchay is interested in coin for their decision, how would House Pinchay feel about House Cyfoeth paying House Pinchay 6 coins to Pass? Note:This deal is contingent on Daucus' acceptance of the previously proposed deal between Houses C and D, they simply haven't got to reply yet today but having a web of proposals waiting is kinda funny. If House Daucus would be interested in adding onto House Pinchay's pass-payment then we'd be quite fine with that for an addendum as well.
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Apr 1, 2021 15:04
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scavy131 posted:
Foreman House Pinchay appreciates the offer, but we must decline. I said that we want Nay to succeed and I stand by that. It's just a matter of how much power that we put in.
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Apr 1, 2021 15:31
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Blastinus posted:
Sitting Councilmember Understandable, it was judged worth the attempt at bargaining. However that does mean a wider net may be cast with some rewording. House Cyfoeth is willing to revise the offered deal to 6 coins for whichever of Houses Gambol, Lethe, and Pinchay will first commits to passing this dilemma. Note:This deal is contingent on Daucus' acceptance of the previously proposed deal between Houses C and D, they simply haven't got to reply yet today. Likewise the additional clause to allow Daucus to add extra payment onto a passing house at Daucus' discretion is still included.
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Apr 1, 2021 15:40
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 [waves] Hey! TravelLog hasn't been on for a while. We're still trying to get in touch with him. Apologies for the delay.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:16
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If you do this, you leave us with enough power to utterly dominate the next vote, which we'll just use to put us right back here at worst and end it outright at best. You've already been set up the bomb. Make your time.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:16
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Quackles posted:
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Apr 1, 2021 16:30
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Daucus, don't be so quick here. We might not be able to end it this dilemma but if you grab the power pot, that's 20 power between us with a minimum 10 in the next pool, which we can then grab some of while you force the vote after this one, and on the third dilemma the other houses are utterly sidelined. I can't run the numbers really rough ght now but I don't think this can mathematically fail.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:39
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Sighence posted:
You're in a timeline where we other three Houses have aligned to counteract your all-in and the Reign continues. However scavy131 posted:
Sitting Councilmember Gambol is interested in this. Given it's a tentative deal pending a deal, I'll express our tentative acceptance. End the Reign.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:15
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C... posted:You're in a timeline where we other three Houses have aligned to counteract your all-in and the Reign continues. However Witnessed, pending Daucus' acceptance of the previously proposed deal between Houses C and D.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:17
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Sighence posted:
You’re saying that this is our play if we don’t win this round? Edit: Oh. Give me a second here...
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Apr 1, 2021 17:20
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With Gambol not in the opposition coalition, my theory is invalid. Let's all go all in.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:31
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Sounds good. We accept the deal. Note to House C: If you don’t have any coin achievements, and House G does their spitey plan, there’s a way you can still take first... err, last.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:36
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Quackles posted:Sounds good. We accept the deal. Sitting Councilmember Truly, a pleasure doing business with the other houses and working to make coalitions like this. While House Cyfoeth has indeed been doing some number crunching in regards to coin numbers, we're more committed to this from the regnal imperative perspective. This reign has been built on a never-ending string of Ayes. Come what may we're willing to see that legacy through.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:42
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As they say, “Aye yi yi yi”. Pleasure doing business with you. TIG: Can we make “Aye yi yi yi” be the Queen’s motto?
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Apr 1, 2021 17:49
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Quackles posted:Sounds good. We accept the deal. C... posted:
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Apr 1, 2021 18:06
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Senator -1 morale -1 morale -1 morale *ahem* I guess that's probably it for this reign. We have decided that a first place right now, even at reduced effectiveness, is good enough. The cheeky idea I saw was Gambol giving away all our gold to Houses Pinchay and Lethe. Anyways, it's time for House Gambol agenda preference speculation corner. Let's start with the obvious one, nobody got Opportunist. (from the audience) No poo poo Sherlock House Cyfoeth preference is a mystery. They obviously favoured Opulent, but what's the second one?  Possibly Greedy? There's only one data point at the moment, from when they were 4th pick.  Lethe favours Extremist and Greedy, probably in that order. Next. Even if they only picked it once (twice this reign) House Pinchay obviously favours opulent, at three prestige. The second favoured agenda is more of a dilemma , but I'd tentatively point to Greedy.House Daucus was stuck up Last Pick creek without a paddle until this reign, so this may be difficult. However, I speculate that they favour Rebel and Moderate, in that precise order. Yo Ho, Yo Ho, a Rebel life for us. I'm not even bothering pretending on Rebel, but what is our other? Ohh spooky mystery 
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I don’t... if Gambol are the rebels, why do Cyfoeth and Daucus even want an abdication? I guess one of you are picking 2 Prestige over 3 Crave, but why the other?
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megane posted:I don’t... if Gambol are the rebels, why do Cyfoeth and Daucus even want an abdication? I guess one of you are picking 2 Prestige over 3 Crave, but why the other?
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Apr 1, 2021 19:22
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That Italian Guy posted:I think Omobono's post is on "which House prefers which Agenda" instead of "which House has which Agenda this specific reign". Especially since I started with "nobody got Opportunist" and EVERYONE saw opportunist in this game's agenda draft.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:29
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Ah, I see. Well, the question remains. There are three houses in the abdication coalition, and only one can be the rebels.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:37
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megane posted:Ah, I see. Well, the question remains. There are three houses in the abdication coalition, and only one can be the rebels. I was under the impression that House Cyfoeth has made their smoothbrain position clear in regards to this dilemma. The council has voted 7 consecutive Ayes over the course of this reign, we see no reason to pump the brakes on the yes train at this time, the only proper decision can be to make that '8 Ayes'. In regards to agenda at least, heaven forbid that a house who's bloodline is intertwined with the royal family of Ankhist like the Dukes of Coden ever consider being counted as a Rebel, it would be tantamount to fighting within one's own family.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:47
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Foreman Given the discussion we had last time I was in the chair, I suppose it's only fair that House Gambol did what it did. The snakes, it seems, actually came in on boats. That being said, I don't enjoy the idea of going out quietly either. House Pinchay will give 15 Coins to House Daucus, no strings attached. As my brother would say, if you can't win, then ensure that the player you hate the most doesn't win either. e: And for the record, House Pinchay will be passing as well, since it's apparent that we're not going to win the vote. Just wanted to mention that for the sake of not getting dinged again. Blastinus fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 20:13
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Blastinus posted:
So, just out of curiosity, is it possible to make a one sided deal or would the other house have to perform a reciprocating action/openly accept? Not that this outcome isn't getting to maximum hilarity territory, but I'm not sure the official stance on deals like this.
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Apr 1, 2021 20:38
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Blastinus posted:
Strong talk! Is the basis of your hatred the fact that we rooted for Nay once, and made Houses actually invest in a position? Of course, you've made it clear that you don't believe in accumulating goodwill with other players in games, so it's hardly a surprise. Worth noting that this doesn't improve Daucus' position in our calculus. E: or move us out of first...
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Apr 1, 2021 20:39
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C... posted:
Foreman You're one to talk about accumulating goodwill, seeing as one of your members just claimed to hop aboard our coalition only to immediately abandon it once you saw a better deal. What were the words here...this doesn't need confirmation since it's in our best interests? So no, I don't think that House Gambol has a foot to stand on when it comes to trust. Unless there's a stated contract, you're not worth dealing with either. And yes, I realize that this doesn't affect your resources, but it does mean that Daucus comes in first for coins, and that's good enough for me.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:00
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House Lethe - Treasurer Yeah, Gambol's word isn't worth the paper it's printed on. How many times now have you said you supported one side, then suddenly switched and gone all in the other direction at the drop of a hat? And then you paint yourselves as dynamic deal-makers and sneer at the rest of us for not "building goodwill." Pat yourselves on the back all you like; Pinchay and Daucus regularly oppose us, but at least when they say they support something, they actually do so.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:07
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You cite circumstances in which a House with three members have differing opinions - fault our eagerness to post, sure, but you needn't invent perfidy.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:40
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Blastinus posted:
I have Done The Math, and have a counteroffer — House P will give 6 Coins to House Cyfoeth. If the Queen is not forced out of office, they will give 9 more coins to House Daucus. That’ll give Houses D and C a joint last place win, if the reign ends here.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:46
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Quackles posted:I have Done The Math, and have a counteroffer — Foreman Seems fine. Although I'm pretty sure that the queen will be removed, so I'm not sure how to interpret the second clause.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:53
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Blastinus posted:
It’s covering our bases in case it’s only -1 Morale and stability stops at the second-lowest tick. We accept our part of it. House C?
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Apr 1, 2021 21:58
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scavy131 posted:So, just out of curiosity, is it possible to make a one sided deal or would the other house have to perform a reciprocating action/openly accept? No unilateral deals and each side in an agreement has to accept the terms for it to be binding on their end.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:02
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Apr 1, 2021 22:03
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C... posted:I've checked with TIG, and you aren't allowed to move Coin around after a Dilemma resolution, but before a Reign ends.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:07
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Oh, OK. Let’s rewrite it. House Pinchay will immediately pay House Cyfoeth 6 Coins to spend 10 Power in Aye. They will also pay House Daucus 9 Coins to spend 5 Power on Aye, but payment will only be made at the start of the next Dilemma if the current Queen is still in office. Note that Coins are transferred to House C immediately on Deal acceptance.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:07
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That Italian Guy posted:Wait I'm at a loss...who's trying to do this? Oh, I must have misread a clause - apologies.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:08
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Quackles posted:Oh, OK. Let’s rewrite it. Foreman This is amazingly ridiculous and I accept. Just hope my housemates don't lynch me for it.
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