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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS THE MORROW TOUR AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, SPACE JANITOR. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN THAT SPACE MOP OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY MOPPED THE GALAXY’S MOST DANGEROUS SPACE CAFETERIA. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY ORG AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN ORGS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY 890 JUMP LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 12 MINUTES INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I PLEDGE.
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Apr 2, 2021 07:14
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. 
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Apr 2, 2021 07:17
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https://i.imgur.com/BS9IVGi.mp4
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Apr 2, 2021 09:40
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Popete posted:If CIG can't make the game we'll make it ourselves!
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Apr 2, 2021 09:52
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Star Citizen is headed for Free-to-Play. Stimpire.txt is already Plea-to-Flay. The gap is closing. Closing fast.
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Apr 2, 2021 11:45
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Has the sickening truth about Star Citizen been revealed yet though?
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Apr 2, 2021 12:00
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Sarsapariller posted:It's Thursday and also April Fool's day and that means it's time for what is most likely a joke episode of How's is this april's fool joke different than other Inside Star Citizen episodes?
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Apr 2, 2021 13:22
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MedicineHut posted:How's is this april's fool joke different than other Inside Star Citizen episodes? The commandos are let in on the joke for once?
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Apr 2, 2021 13:49
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MedicineHut posted:How's is this april's fool joke different than other Inside Star Citizen episodes? overall less shame
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Apr 2, 2021 14:48
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ED's Odyssey not looking good so far: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-04-01-frontier-addresses-elite-dangerous-odyssey-alphas-tedious-space-taxis-and-murder-planets The money quote: quote:The issue will almost certainly be alleviated as players are given the ability to travel further afield in later alpha phases, reducing the likelihood of encounters, but Frontier says it'll be adding in the detention centre spawn loop for criminal players in a later update, and may adjust penalties for killing on-foot players if need be. In the meantime, alpha participants are reminded that Solo and Private Group sessions are also available. Good Lord, they're getting a jail too? Who thinks these sitting-in-a-room gameplay "loops" are exciting?
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Apr 2, 2021 15:37
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Space nerds. They shouldn't develop games imo
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Apr 2, 2021 15:41
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Star Citizen: if you want a complete gameplay loop i am sorry but you simply must go to jail
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Apr 2, 2021 16:07
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Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:ED's Odyssey not looking good so far: Elite already respawns you at a 'detention' station when you commit a crime in your ship. There's no waiting - you just fly off. This is the on foot equivalent. It's not electrifying gameplay exactly, but it's just a spawn point and can be avoided easily.
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Apr 2, 2021 16:24
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Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:ED's Odyssey not looking good so far: I wonder if Frontier has also discovered the inevitable consequence of piracy: Rape.
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Apr 2, 2021 17:00
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Aqua Seafoam Shame posted:ED's Odyssey not looking good so far: Elite is fundamentally developed by the exact same type of devs as Star Citizen, but without the mismanagement and rank incompetence at the top. They still hate fun and do everything they can to make the experience as dull as possible though. Space games could be so much more if it weren't all built by the kind of person who thinks Train Simulator is, frankly, a little too over-the-top and should maybe tone it down a bit.
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Apr 2, 2021 17:14
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Would it be naive of me to suggest that with Odyssey being in alpha and CIG not involved that there might be hope of it improving?
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Apr 2, 2021 17:18
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Important parts of a space game that you must not miss, according to space game devs: * Extremely long travel times where the user is locked out of the controls or very limited * Harsh death and respawn penalties for loving up or glitching out * Some form of "Criminal scum" gameplay that basically slaps you with a giant red flag that makes the whole rest of the game super inconvenient * Bathrooms * Walking around inside of places, but not exciting places- only hangars, garages, space malls, etc * Shoehorned multiplayer but absolutely no allowance for, or understanding of, the behavior of modern players when allowed to shoot each other * Space fuel, space ammo, space food and other inconvenience mechanics Parts of a space game that can be set aside so you can focus on the important stuff: * Combat * Balance * NPC AI * Fun * Locations * Missions
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Apr 2, 2021 17:21
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Danknificent posted:Would it be naive of me to suggest that with Odyssey being in alpha and CIG not involved that there might be hope of it improving? The article posted:Apex Interstellar is chiefly intended to provide players who're enthusiastic about Odyssey's on-foot combat but less so about space flight with a means of getting round the galaxy without needing to pilot a ship of their own. It's an entirely reasonable idea in principle, but the reality is an excruciating bore, leaving players stuck in the passenger seat with nothing to do for many - often many, many, many - minutes at a time. Sources say: unlikely
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Apr 2, 2021 17:22
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Danknificent posted:Would it be naive of me to suggest that with Odyssey being in alpha and CIG not involved that there might be hope of it improving? If there is one thing I've learned about ED it's that somehow they will take the most jaw droppingly impressive thing and make it so dull to play that you just don't bother
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Apr 2, 2021 17:54
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"What my boss thinks I do" (Electrical engineering)
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Apr 2, 2021 18:51
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:Has the sickening truth about Star Citizen been revealed yet though? CR absolved himself of all responsibility years ago. I'd say the sickening truth is already out there.
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Apr 2, 2021 18:59
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Sarsapariller posted:Important parts of a space game that you must not miss, according to space game devs: * Flying in space * Space ship based interaction like boarding and stuff Must include: * Sleep * Food * Bathrooms * Dreams * Tier 0 everything * Never saying "this is it, this is exactly how this mechanic will work"
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Apr 2, 2021 19:04
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Star Citizen and Elite just prove that space games are boring, unless you are one of those people who really love Farming Simulator or Truck Simulator kind of games. Trying to make them fun is going against that grain of people who want to have to manually seed 200 acres of land virtually over the course of many hours or days so they can wait to harvest it later in the same hugely tedious manner. And then do that forever except add more acres.
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Apr 2, 2021 19:08
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The Titanic posted:Star Citizen and Elite just prove that space games are boring, unless you are one of those people who really love Farming Simulator or Truck Simulator kind of games. But after a long day of reaping and sowing, they will look up at that one big bright star and think, “Yeah, maybe I’ll visit that star tomorrow. Maybe.”
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Apr 2, 2021 19:18
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Sarsapariller posted:Elite is fundamentally developed by the exact same type of devs as Star Citizen, but without the mismanagement and rank incompetence at the top. They still hate fun and do everything they can to make the experience as dull as possible though. Space games could be so much more if it weren't all built by the kind of person who thinks Train Simulator is, frankly, a little too over-the-top and should maybe tone it down a bit. Like the person making Starsector?
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Apr 2, 2021 19:36
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.random posted:But after a long day of reaping and sowing, they will look up at that one big bright star and think, “Yeah, maybe I’ll visit that star tomorrow. Maybe.” No need to do that. Already have the coffee pot and a great scenic view of procedural terrain on this planet.
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Apr 2, 2021 19:39
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The Titanic posted:Star Citizen and Elite just prove that space games are boring, unless you are one of those people who really love Farming Simulator or Truck Simulator kind of games. Thing is, space is a shithole. It's fine viewed from Earth, but it's a horrendous heap of crap really. Like that recent Mars rover cemented my opinion on this, billions of dollars and we get photos of an empty slum planet, devoid of anything interesting. The novelty would take a couple of days to wear off if you went there, then you're hosed - for years and bored years. Space is poo poo, the idea of space is cool but honestly there is more to do in any hick town than there is in space by a huge margin. This is reflected in space games. If there is any fun to be had it's not because of space, it's in spite of it.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:40
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peter gabriel posted:Thing is, space is a shithole. I mean, this is a weird and reductive argument. Space is extremely cool. But Space is cool in the way like, the bottom of the Sea is cool. Its scientifically interesting, its a new frontier. But that means its exceptionally dangerous and its also mostly boring and you're far removed from other humans. So yeah, you're going to have more other humans and thus more fun things to do in any human town than on the bottom of the sea or out in space. But those things are romantic because they're exciting and dangerous. But this is specifically why people like GAMES and not SIMULATORS for the most part. People don't really want to experience life on the frontier; its awful and boring. They want to experience the romanticized hollywood western movie version of it. Just the exciting bits with all the boring stuff cut out, and in a place of safety. But CIG goes full ham on ~fidelity~ and thus the game is not fun.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:46
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peter gabriel posted:Thing is, space is a shithole. other planets are definitely poo poo, because they are fundamentally versions of earth that we just aren't well-adapted to. space stations, though, can offer a lot of aesthetics (up-curving horizons) and narratives (cities that move and rearrange into different nation-states) that are much harder or impossible to pull off planetside.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:53
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peter gabriel posted:Thing is, space is a shithole. What if you arrive to the planet of the green ladies with big boobs? you know the one. There is probably a planet full of shipwrecks for the Titanic too.
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Apr 2, 2021 21:22
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Starsector is a space game that seems to be a good example of a game primarily concerned about fun. The developer blog posts have mentioned a few times how he'll often implement something in a "realistic" manner on the first pass and then change it if it's not fun or interesting.
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Apr 2, 2021 21:46
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Zaphod42 posted:I mean, this is a weird and reductive argument It's not an argument my man. There is more stuff to do in my shed than there is in space. I love the idea of it all but I could travel for billions of years and have the same view I get here, except here I also have a shed.
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Apr 2, 2021 21:58
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Do you spend a lot of time in your shed.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:11
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I'd rather go to my shed than Mars, it's got more human stuff.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:12
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Fruits of the sea posted:Do you spend a lot of time in your shed. No and now I am wondering why not, it's a good shed.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:19
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Gonna launch the Shed Rover tomorrow
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Apr 2, 2021 22:20
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Commandos are in.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:25
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peter gabriel posted:If there is one thing I've learned about ED it's that somehow they will take the most jaw droppingly impressive thing and make it so dull to play that you just don't bother And yet there you are 
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MedicineHut posted:And yet there you are That is me in my space shed wishing I was at a Nando's
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