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fizzymercury posted:Is it okay that I read everything Douglas Adams wrote about the universe, re-listen to all the radio shows, watch the show and movie, and then read the extended HHGttG stuff annually? Then I do all that again but Dirk Gently. I don't want anyone to think I'm a nerd or something horrible. Above people who read Star Trek novels, which is all that really matters.
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fizzymercury posted:Is it okay that I read everything Douglas Adams wrote about the universe, re-listen to all the radio shows, watch the show and movie, and then read the extended HHGttG stuff annually? Then I do all that again but Dirk Gently. I don't want anyone to think I'm a nerd or something horrible. Congratulations, you can enjoy it via multiple mediums instead of having weird hangups!
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Sweevo posted:Above people who read Star Trek novels, which is all that really matters. What's the lowdown on Star Trek vs old Star Wars EU vs nu-Star Wars EU vs Warhammer 40k
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It's very simple. If you only read creaky old classics, you're a pretentious hipster. If you only read new popular things, you're a shallow overgrown child. If you read some of each, you're a "truth is always in the middle" South Park Republican. And of course if you don't read at all, you're just one of the brainless masses.
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Captain Monkey posted:They do it because being contrarian is their main personality trait. If they can be ‘above it all’ they get to feel cool and smug without having to do any of the effort of actually engaging in the modern world. They can just read someone smart’s thoughts about the 300 year old books and regurgitate those thoughts at people to make the cargo cult version of an academic point. i read literature because its fun
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Disco Pope posted:I think people who only read "great literature" are kind of playing themselves too, because sometimes its good to have shared cultural references with people and not be the equivalent of the guy who slams into Facebook comment sections about Taylor Swift to proclaim "Never heard of her" its funny that you say this because this is the function of literature, knowing who homer or jonathan swift or milton is is something that you can share with people mostly no matter their age or even cultural background, people around the world know who shakespeare is but if you talk to them about warhammer you're not going to have much luck
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How will you ever relate to other human beings without referencing all the old dumb books we read in middle school It is a mystery
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the argument was that you should share cultural references with people. i agree. warhammer isn't one of them.
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"Read another book" doesn't mean you can't still also read the poo poo that prompted someone to say it - especially since there's no quick way to un-read a book.
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Shibawanko posted:i read literature because its fun Don't say that in TBB, they'll ban you.
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The best selling and most widely read book of all time is harry potter So if you're looking for a shared cultural reference that's what you need to read hth
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I think you guys are missing the actual point Shib was making, quote unquote real literature is simply better written and more interesting than fiction that's churned out by ghostwriters ten a year. Reading a dozen Starwars EU novels or what have you is the equivalent of spending half your day watching Pawn Stars, we've only got a limited amount of time here. Why would you waste it on low quality works?
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Manager Hoyden posted:The best selling and most widely read book of all time is harry potter No it isn't, not even if you count Harry Potter as being the whole series.
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Manager Hoyden posted:How will you ever relate to other human beings without referencing all the old dumb books we read in middle school by the way this is again the immensely arrogant american white guy perspective that just assumes that everyone has the same experience. i didnt read any of that stuff in school, i read it of my own volition because i liked it
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Shibawanko posted:i read literature because its fun The books you named are the Harry Potters of their day. You’re just a slightly more pretentious Potter House guy.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:No it isn't, not even if you count Harry Potter as being the whole series. Take it up with wikipedia man that's as far as I looked
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Manager Hoyden posted:Take it up with wikipedia man that's as far as I looked You looked at the list, not the preface to the list.
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PHUO: The only book anyone needs to read is this
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Captain Monkey posted:The books you named are the Harry Potters of their day. You’re just a slightly more pretentious Potter House guy. there were many works written in the 18th and 19th century that were really popular but are now forgotten, because they basically sucked, those are the harry potters i also wasnt making the argument that popular stuff automatically sucked, or that old stuff is automatically better
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Manager Hoyden posted:PHUO: The only book anyone needs to read is this Sometimes you see one of those books at someone's home and leaf through it and it has zero oily thumbprints so you just close it, get your coat, walk out, and never speak to that person again.
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I guaran-loving-tee you will get laid more with your Hogwarts house in your tinder bio than with your love of Johnathan Swift
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I guaran-loving-tee you will get laid more with your Hogwarts house in your tinder bio than with your love of Johnathan Swift We get it; you're easy.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I guaran-loving-tee you will get laid more with your Hogwarts house in your tinder bio than with your love of Johnathan Swift im married
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Genre is a capitalist invention. It's not something inherent to literature, but inherent to publishing and consumption of books. Aristotle’s Poetics, noted capitalist tract.
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King Hong Kong posted:Aristotle’s Poetics, noted capitalist tract. Aristoteles didn't know a word of French.
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Manager Hoyden posted:The best selling and most widely read book of all time is harry potter It's the Bible. Second is the Little Red Book.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Aristoteles didn't know a word of French. Words change, but things stay the same. The idea of the genre predates the word.
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King Hong Kong posted:Words change, but things stay the same. The idea of the genre predates the word. The idea of genre now has nothing to do with Aristoteles' ideas of anything.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:The idea of genre now has nothing to do with Aristoteles' ideas of anything. There are other forms of “genre” besides genres of novels.
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King Hong Kong posted:There are other forms of “genre” besides genres of novels. Yes?
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Byzantine posted:It's the Bible. There we go then problem solved We need to be well versed in christianity and maoist propaganda to share experiences with other human beings and maybe we lay off the stuffy old childrens books edit: really though I think the best way to connect with our shared culture is discussing the best way to convert a windsor 5.8l engine from efi to carburetor Manager Hoyden has a new favorite as of 19:26 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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I read the first Harry Potter book as a child, it was alright but nowhere near interesting enough to want to read the rest of the series Roald Dahl though? classic mate
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Aristoteles didn't know a word of French. French is actually the original langugage pre-Tower of Babel. Even babies know how to speak it.
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The categorization and classification of literature in accordance with normative conventions was not a capitalist invention and to say otherwise is insane. You can absolutely blame capitalism for making it impossible for a dialogue or epic to be successful in the twenty-first century and instead inundating the public with pablum, but that’s not because the idea of the genre was invented under capitalism. It’s because genre, much like any number of things that predate capitalism that continue to exist, has utility in a capitalist publishing model.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I read the first Harry Potter book as a child, it was alright but nowhere near interesting enough to want to read the rest of the series Absolutely correct. The argy that's been going on in this thread has me biffsquigled. This thread is totally fluckgungled. We should all try to make it more razztwizzler.
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Roald Dahl made the best childrens books because he straight up hated children due to his lord of the flies boarding school upbringing
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Why are all children's novels that get traction in the anglo world somehow related to high class abusive british boarding school, goddam
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Why are all children's novels that get traction in the anglo world somehow related to high class abusive british boarding school, goddam Honest answer, because it's a lazy narrative that starts you at act 2 of the hero's journey Manager Hoyden has a new favorite as of 19:54 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Shibawanko posted:its funny that you say this because this is the function of literature, knowing who homer or jonathan swift or milton is is something that you can share with people mostly no matter their age or even cultural background, people around the world know who shakespeare is but if you talk to them about warhammer you're not going to have much luck Except I haven't talked to another human about Milton or Swift or Marlow or Keats or Shelley since finishing my degree. I have talked to acquaintances and workmates about Stephen King or, yes, Warhammer 40K though. When I read literature or watch world cinema or whatever, I do it for me and it find it satisfying and enlightening, but 9/10 people in bars will want to talk about Marvel movies or whatever. That other 1/10 leads to great conversations, but I won't pretend they aren't vanishingly rare. And sometimes spaceships and lasers are just cooler than dusty old poo poo. Disco Pope has a new favorite as of 19:59 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Captain Monkey posted:They do it because being contrarian is their main personality trait. If they can be ‘above it all’ they get to feel cool and smug without having to do any of the effort of actually engaging in the modern world. They can just read someone smart’s thoughts about the 300 year old books and regurgitate those thoughts at people to make the cargo cult version of an academic point. lol yikes
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