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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:I hope they like cocaine and jazzercise Who wouldn't? Best not done simultaneously though, heart explosion is a known side effect
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Zero One posted:Disney delayed Death on the Nile again but sources say they can't recast Armie Hammer so the actual release is still up in the air. Johnny Depp being in the prior one didn't stop them.
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If only Christopher Plummer was still alive...duz posted:Johnny Depp being in the prior one didn't stop them. I guess it helped that his character was the one that got murdered on the Orient Express and at no point would you shed a tear for him. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Neurolimal posted:Especially after the showrunners utterly beefed their adaptation so they could run off to make Star Wars (and lost that, presumably because sabotaging your breakout show to do a different show doesn't instill confidence) This whole 'they ruined GoT to go do Star Wars' is one of the most obviously dumb myths I've heard. First, because if they wanted to run off and do Star Wars, they could have run off and done Star Wars. Showrunners leaving a big property to someone else so that they can develop other shows or movies is the most common thing in television. Second, because the GoT S8 shoot was insanely long and grueling. If they wanted to half-rear end the last season, they would have written something that wasn't such a massive undertaking. The 'Star Wars' thing comes across as if people are playing out their abandonment issues in public. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Anonymous Zebra posted:I'm actually pretty sure I can pinpoint the exact moment GRRM realized he couldn't finish the books. He was at a convention nerding out with fans of the book series, and they were discussing all the prophesies and poo poo. The topic came up of how the previous "hero of ancient legend" basically made his glowing fire sword by stabbing it through his beloved's chest, which was in line with the whole sacrifice theme of the books. Somebody mentioned that this likely meant that Jon was going to have to kill Dany to win or something. There was this slight twinkle in GRRM's eyes, but before he could respond a female fan spoke up and said something along the lines of, "I certainly hope we aren't following this strong woman for seven books just so she can get killed so another male character can be sad!" And I could literally see GRRM's face fall. And that woman's name was Albert Einstein. Yeah, a writer isn't going to 'realize he can't finish the books' because a single fan at a conference had an opinion. These people think their fans are basically subhuman. Two years after 2009 he released a book that ends with this strong woman making GBS threads herself in some field, he doesn't give a gently caress. The books just got out of his control and got too unwieldy, it already happened with having to split Dance and Feast. The show was already ahead of the last book by the end of Season 5. Two books, Winter and Spring, are not enough to adapt the last three seasons of the show (which are universally considered 'rushed') and the last parts of S5. Doing that and having all the extra plotlines that the show skipped is simply impossible. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 14:53
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Pedro De Heredia posted:This whole 'they ruined GoT to go do Star Wars' is one of the most obviously dumb myths I've heard. Also they lost their Star Wars job because they signed a huge deal with Netflix, a Disney competitor.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:This whole 'they ruined GoT to go do Star Wars' is one of the most obviously dumb myths I've heard. Wasn't there contract fuckery that prevented them from handing the show over to someone else?
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The MSJ posted:Also they lost their Star Wars job because they signed a huge deal with Netflix, a Disney competitor. Ironically the same thing Rian Johnson just did, though by this point I don't know if anyone still seriously believes he's going to do his original Star Wars movie trilogy.
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Didn't they lose their Civil War alt history show where the slavers are the good guys because they hosed up GoT?
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Fried Watermelon posted:Didn't they lose their Civil War alt history show where the slavers are the good guys because they hosed up GoT? I think there was a very large number of reasons why they lost that show.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Didn't they lose their Civil War alt history show where the slavers are the good guys because they hosed up GoT? I think it got cancelled before GOT was wrapping up from general backlash at it.
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Chairman Capone posted:Ironically the same thing Rian Johnson just did, though by this point I don't know if anyone still seriously believes he's going to do his original Star Wars movie trilogy. Rian signed a deal for two movies. D&D's Netflix deal is apparently more than that because it involves multiple series and/or movies yet to be announced (or possibly even pitched to Netflix). Probably similar to another contract signed between Netflix and Mark Millar.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Didn't they lose their Civil War alt history show where the slavers are the good guys because they hosed up GoT? Truly a premise worth of the authors of Lucky Wander Boy and Wolverine: Origins. You'd get laughed out of an undergraduate screenwriting class for that poo poo.
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lmao if you think the south winning the civil war is "alt"
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https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1377713505630097410?s=21 Neat. Also, Ava DuVernay’s New Gods and James Wan’s Aquaman spin-off movie have been cancelled.
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aware of dog posted:Also, Ava DuVernay’s New Gods and James Wan’s Aquaman spin-off movie have been cancelled. Not gonna lie--I was psyched for a Tom King/Ava DuVernay New Gods movie beyond anything that lilley would've come from it, but it sort of feels fitting that New Gods gets shafted by corporate.
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aware of dog posted:Also, Ava DuVernay’s New Gods and James Wan’s Aquaman spin-off movie have been cancelled. Can't help but wonder if WB is purely fueled by spite.
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Neurolimal posted:Can't help but wonder if WB is purely fueled by spite. All Hollywood studios are. Just go ahead and read about Disney and Dreamworks in the 90s and 2000s.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:First, because if they wanted to run off and do Star Wars, they could have run off and done Star Wars. Showrunners leaving a big property to someone else so that they can develop other shows or movies is the most common thing in television People who think 'The South winning the Civil War' is a good set up for a TV show also being egotistical enough to think 'no one can finish this but me' isn't really that far fetched. Pedro De Heredia posted:If they wanted to half-rear end the last season, they would have written something that wasn't such a massive undertaking. The last season has about 3 or 4 seasons worth of plot crammed together. That's part of why it's as poorly regarded as it is. Doing everything they do in one season instead of several is still half assing it compared to doing several seasons of large, gruelling shoots.
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The thing that kind of gets lost when discussing the last season of GoT isn't that it was just bad (the seasons had been declining in quality for awhile) but that it was lazy. It's not even a complete matter of opinion either. The season was artificially shortened by D&D despite HBO telling them they had a blank check to write a full season. People actually analyzed the season and demonstrated that there was a significant decrease in the lines of dialogue per unit of time in Season 8 (much of the season was long stretches of CGI battles sometimes well shot with an excellent score, other times less so...significantly). Transcribing the lines of dialogue it was shown that some characters almost literally repeated the same line of dialogue multiple times per episode, the most egregious being Jon Snow and his, "...my Queen" which would have been funny if not for the fact that it was so bad. Excellent actress Lena Headey literally shot most of her scenes in a day as they entirely consisted of her standing on a balcony sipping from a wine glass without speaking The show also went from a series that had rather strong set design and costumes to the crew literally leaving Starbucks cups, water bottles, and laptop chargers in frame for 3 episodes in a row. It was just a bizarre series of unforced errors that compounded on the fact that they really had no idea how to end the thing.
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You can really see how the actors have checked out by the end. The final episode, apart from not being well written, is just played so stiffly. Even the penultimate episode where Dany goes nuts and starts killing everyone gets dull, like there's only so much footage of peasant massacres you can sit through.
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Fried Watermelon posted:Didn't they lose their Civil War alt history show where the slavers are the good guys because they hosed up GoT? HBO just didn't develop the show further because the general reaction to the premise was "this sounds really offensive." In general, people are really underrating how bad you have to "gently caress up" something to stop getting opportunities in Hollywood, and overrating how much something is a "gently caress up." The last season of GoT was a massive ratings success. It won a ton of Emmys. The DVDs have sold about as well as previous seasons. The show is still successful on streaming. The "brand" is still quite valuable. HBO is both giving money to GRRM and developing a bunch of new shows. They don't seem to believe the showrunners really "hosed up" in the ways that are meaningful to them. Sure, it would have been nice if the ending was widely acclaimed. But the reality is that shows don't tend to end well, either critically or commercially or both. The business of television is that you create something nice and then you get everything you can out of it until it's a decaying husk, then you throw it away. Anonymous Zebra posted:The thing that kind of gets lost when discussing the last season of GoT isn't that it was just bad (the seasons had been declining in quality for awhile) but that it was lazy. It's not even a complete matter of opinion either. The season was artificially shortened by D&D despite HBO telling them they had a blank check to write a full season. b]People actually analyzed the season and demonstrated that there was a significant decrease in the lines of dialogue per unit of time in Season 8 (much of the season was long stretches of CGI battles sometimes well shot with an excellent score, other times less so...significantly). [/b] The concept of "lines of dialogue per unit of time" as a measure of "effort" is hilariously terrible, because there is no linear relationship between "time on film" and "time to shoot," which is where you actually have to exert the "effort," and no obvious relationship between "quantity of dialogue" and "quality of dialogue" either. I am reminded of Nikki Finke's criticism of the ending of Sopranos, which she said was "lazy" because "aren't writers paid to write?" Yes, that's what happened. They got "lazy" so they wrote less lines of dialogue, just like David Chase "got lazy" and didn't write an ending. You don't need to "analyze" the season this way. There are articles about the filming of Season 8 and a book about the making of the show which covers the filming extensively. You can just look at the shoot lenghts, hours spent on that, all the documented information we have about the shoot. That's a much more obvious thing to look at instead of this numerically, scientifically, and artistically illiterate nonsense that you got from a godforsaken Youtube. And from all acounts, it was a completely insane, grueling shoot, that everyone hated and was totally drained by. That's really the sad thing. Everyone involved, from the writers to the directors to the actors, put a ton of time and effort into something that was widely disliked. They did their best, and their best was poo poo. I understand that deranged fans need to transfer their hate towards a specific person, that's how fandom always operates. But while it would be easier to believe that our parents' birthday gift was bad because they were too busy spending time with their evil affair partners to pay attention to us, the sad reality is that this is all they could come up with. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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Yeah, analysing a show by "lines of dialogue per unit of time" sounds just as dumb as evaluating programmer productivity by LOC per day, IMHO.
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AceOfFlames posted:Yeah, analysing a show by "lines of dialogue per unit of time" sounds just as dumb as evaluating programmer productivity by LOC per day, IMHO. It reminds me of people measuring the quality of superhero movies by counting the seconds they wear their costumes on screen.
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Alan Smithee posted:lmao if you think the south winning the civil war is "alt" Someone should make a film about the undermining of reconstruction and frame the advertising as the South winning the war.
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Samovar posted:Someone should make a film about the undermining of reconstruction and frame the advertising as the South winning the war. You should watch the mockumentary C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America. It's set in an alternate history where the South won the war, but the whole point is how similar the world is to the reality.
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Samovar posted:Someone should make a film about the undermining of reconstruction and frame the advertising as the South winning the war. Free State of Jones covered some of that, to my general surprise. I was sure they'd cap it off sooner to keep it happy. It made for a super depressing 3rd act.
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Free State of Jones covered some of that, to my general surprise. I was sure they'd cap it off sooner to keep it happy. It made for a super depressing 3rd act. Reviews of that were quite favourable, which is surprising, since the trailer made it look like the gag from that episode of Boondocks.
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Yeah the civil war ending like halfway into the movie was a real trip Then flash forward to 1960
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I don't remember a single thing from that movie, all I know is I was really hyped to see it because it had mcconnaisance-era matthew mcconaughey in it
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The United States posted:Yeah the civil war ending like halfway into the movie was a real trip I read some of the historical scholarship on Newton Knight in grad school before the movie came out, and the movie does alter a few things about the 1940s law case of his descendants. For one, the court case wasn't about whether they were descended from Rachel Knight (Gugu Mbatha-Raw ) or Serena Knight (Keri Russell); it was accepted they were descended from Rachel, but rather the lawsuit was meant to prove that Rachel wasn't fully Black, because that would mean that Knight's descendants were less than 1/8 Black and could then go to the white schools. Which is related to the other part, that Knight's descendants considered themselves fully white, sided with segregationists (who very much did not side back with them) and absolutely were first and foremost trying to legally establish their whiteness. If I'm remembering right, Rachel was also the slave of Newton's... grandfather, I think? And potentially related to Newton, too, which the movie doesn't cover (at least from my memory). Still a good movie in general, and would recommend it.
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Chairman Capone posted:You should watch the mockumentary C.S.A.: The Confederate States of America. It's set in an alternate history where the South won the war, but the whole point is how similar the world is to the reality.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXYZOsXw_o Jesus christ, this looks like a cross between Ready Player One and Detective Pikachu in all the worst ways. I did not need to think about "real" CGI versions of the toons. ALSO RYAN COOGLER IS A PRODUCER ON THIS!!??
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I like the new Goon Squad, but did they really need a "he falls into a computer" explanation for the existence of looney tunes?
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Cael posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXYZOsXw_o Its dumb because we already had a big Warner crossover with Lego Batman.
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It's nice to see GamemasterAnthony branching out into screenplays.
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LeBron teaching Pepe LePew about consent: tacky, tone deaf, had to be cut The Droogs from A Clockwork Orange cheering on a Basketball game: a fun lil Easter egg for long-time fans!
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Warner trying to increase visibility of their catalog and IP is pretty smart, it’s been Disney’s game plan all long. No interest in the movie, which is something I rarely say given that I loving love going to movies, even lovely ones.
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