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Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever
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Compression trades CPU time for disk size so it's not always faster or better. Some file types are compressed by default though, like PNG or DOCX.
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Apr 1, 2021 13:30
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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever Because sometimes you don't want to/can't wait for the unpacking process to open the compressed file. And (mostly in the past due to storage medium sizes) you wanted to compress files that weren't being accessed frequently to save space for the ones that were. So the onus is on the user to make the determination - which files can I cram into a smaller space, and which ones do I want faster access to. ...essentially.
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Apr 1, 2021 13:58
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7zip Costanza
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Apr 1, 2021 14:09
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You ever zip your balls or dick into your pants zipper? That's always a fun experience.
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Apr 1, 2021 14:10
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I agree OP. We should only use tarballs. Tar my balls.
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Apr 1, 2021 14:13
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7zip 7zap 7rap
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Apr 1, 2021 14:16
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britney_spears_nude_with_song.exe.jpg.tar.bz.bz2
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Apr 1, 2021 14:18
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Tarkus posted:britney_spears_nude_with_song.exe.jpg.tar.bz.bz2 poo poo *opens Kazaa*
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Apr 1, 2021 14:18
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Your trial period has expired!! Ok
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Apr 1, 2021 14:45
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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever
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Apr 1, 2021 16:15
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Three Zips for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men, doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne In the World Wide Web where the  lie.One Zip to hold them all, One Zip to compress them, One Zip to bring them all and in the hard-drive bind them. In the World Wide Web where the lie.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:33
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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever compressing and uncompressing files takes up CPU processing, it ain't free! sure, in some cases that slowdown would be negligible but you'd need a fast hard drive and CPU for that, but it will still always affect performance. Some games store all their assets compressed and uncompress them when they read them in to memory for the first time on start up. 7z is the best application for archives. i love it.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:37
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*compresses water.jpg*
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Apr 1, 2021 17:21
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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever Because I don't want to email a coworker 4,000 separate files
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Apr 1, 2021 17:29
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One day when we have COVID-21 and 8zip, we'll look back on these days and have a hearty guffaw.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:30
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More like 7hip. Even with broadband, it is faster for me to compress multi-gigabyte projects before uploading them, and faster to download them again. Granted, I work with file formats that allow very high compression ratios. If you're uploading jpegs, then yeah it's not always worth it.Dignity Van Houten posted:Because I don't want to email a coworker 4,000 separate files Also this
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Apr 1, 2021 17:35
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Yeah Im just moving this Debian tarball to the tar factory where they will Linux it and do a program
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Apr 1, 2021 17:50
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dot website dot OK dot NERDS
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Apr 1, 2021 17:51
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Dads Dip Cup posted:I'm going to archive this thread as .7z and put it into my rear end, and there's nothing you can do about it OP. I snort and guffaw at anyone who would be caught dead with a .zip or .rar stuffed into their rectum Posting from the rear end.
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Apr 1, 2021 17:57
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This Old rear end
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Apr 1, 2021 18:06
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Halloween Liker posted:dot website dot OK dot NERDS This is extremely hurtful
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Apr 1, 2021 18:08
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Rar opened with rarzilla is the best. One click instead of several for. zips and even more for 7zip formats
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Apr 1, 2021 18:12
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Warthog posted:yes - for science: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoclTVcjkXE there's a follow up of when he received the CD
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Apr 1, 2021 18:13
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Im Just programing my rear end to the shops, anyone want anything, said no body ever.
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Apr 1, 2021 18:16
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bring back Yousendit
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Apr 1, 2021 18:20
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gently caress SNEEP posted:compressing and uncompressing files takes up CPU processing, it ain't free! sure, in some cases that slowdown would be negligible but you'd need a fast hard drive and CPU for that, but it will still always affect performance. Some games store all their assets compressed and uncompress them when they read them in to memory for the first time on start up. Valid uses of 7z when every space saving counts. Not valid uses of 7z a media player app your releasing to the internet. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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In the past month I had a couple zip files that 7zip refused to decompress and said they were corrupt and winrar unzipped them just fine so now they both live together in harmony on my pc
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Apr 2, 2021 20:47
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I miss getting to say pk in everyday context.
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PK Ripper is my zipper machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JV8b9r6r3k
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Apr 3, 2021 03:20
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Tom Gorman posted:i save all my files to the desktop and once it gets too full i make a folder and drag everything in there Dad? Speaking of dads, mine clicked on the two dots at the top of a rar file hierarchy, which took him out of the rar file, so he thought his whole desktop was compressed. He kept wondering 'where those files were'. Next he decided to decompress the contents of the folder to make it 'easier' but thought he might need the compressed version later, so he put it in the decompressed folder to keep it organised. Then he compressed that entire folder again. Then he manually defragmented his hard drive with a program he got from a disk at the library.
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Apr 3, 2021 03:48
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:I use Linux so I just double click the file and it opens. How are you going to get viruses that way?
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What is that? Some strange ornament?
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It's got an adorable little QR code 
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gently caress SNEEP posted:compressing and uncompressing files takes up CPU processing, it ain't free! sure, in some cases that slowdown would be negligible but you'd need a fast hard drive and CPU for that, but it will still always affect performance. Some games store all their assets compressed and uncompress them when they read them in to memory for the first time on start up. Sometimes it's faster to read a small file and decompress it in memory than reading a large uncompressed file. It depends on how fast the storage medium can deliver data.
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I compress my DB back up files in 7Zip using ultra compression. Yes, this file will take 12 hours to decompress, but it will save you 1.8 GB of storage space.
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what's the problem op, 7zip is the only program worth using for managing compressed archives on windows so 7z is functionally identical to zip On macos there is no ui worth using so you gotta use terminal and on linux you're probably already using the terminal but ok guis exist. Plus, on non-windows platforms you're just using .tar.gz anyway. Khorne fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever What the others replied plus it allows you to split large files in chunks that can be transferred via floppy-disk or shared on eDonkey2000
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ProperCoochie posted:7zip Costanza there was compression!
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