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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Most chillout thing to do posted:

Sorry, guys, I’m not very familiar with the terms here... chill, chillout, chill out, these words meaning is a bit confusing to me, I can’t tell which one means what. What I would like to figure out though is what will be the most relaxing thing to do in SC, a quietest thing, - as when your mind stops with the noise and focuses on solving a particular riddle... In real world yacht sailing would be such a thing imo, - working with winches, ropes and sails, changing command - who’s the captain today, cooking and planning the route, minding the weather and stuff like nav markers, depths and tides. Could it be that Star Citizen has plans for a future of flight and ship operation in such a complicated manner? I certainly hope so.
From what I can tell, we’ll need to plan foods, components and routes ahead, but what about flight? What will be the analog of sails, ropes and winches if any? Analog of tides and depths?Picking components? Tweaking stuff in engineering? Is there anything planned for constant attention, like minding wind on IRL yachts? Could it be that jumping through wormholes will require constant attention? Could it be that minding a planetary atmosphere will be a necessity for certain ship manipulations?
Alright, maybe this is not this kind of a game, not the kind for constant flight manipulations, I just became curious what you think about this stuff, that’s all.

quote:

I'll take advantage of my Chairman's Club membership, get in touch with Imperial Access to arrange a VIP box seat at the The Port Renatus Metropolitan Opera House on Mars, a performance of Léo Delibes - Lakmé would be perfect.

Here is Lakmé the daughter of a Brahmin and her maidservant as they go to gather flowers by a river.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MmatVblDk

The very definition of chill as far as I'm concerned... you go dig and work your spanners. Have fun.

For a little more excitement I'll head off to the Murray Tower at Aydo on Green... have a juicy steak and watch the races.


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Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Chillin' is like the only thing you can do in the game right now.

Ventral EggSac
Dec 3, 2019

I wish I could do something relaxing, like pull the rope on a boat, but in space.

18th century whaler deckhand: What The Fucke

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


do not enter ye hoist as death shall surely follow

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Ah yes finally the ideal video game where I can eat and watch others do things, totally different than how I live day-to-day.

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Ventral EggSac posted:

I wish I could do something relaxing, like pull the rope on a boat, but in space.

18th century whaler deckhand: What The Fucke

They want that solar sail ship from Star Trek that Sisko rode around in.

The Baumann
Jun 2, 2013

En Garde, Fuckboy
I mean yeah taking a sailboat out on a nice day and cruising around for a bit is very relaxing. But most of that comes from it being a nice day not from having to constantly manage the wind angle and perfectly optimizing my sails

DoomLazer
Jun 1, 2011
Press 'F' to chillax

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

quote:

Having nothing to do has nothing to do with 'who' are the ones creating the things to do. Adding more cooks doesn't always make the recipe better or allow you to get your food any quicker.

Things we know are coming.

1. Station repair jobs. Vending machine re-stocking.

2. Civilian transport infrastructre, regular scheduled flight routes by NPC 'airlines'. There are also planned holiday travel services which include entertainment and accommodation.

3. Dynamic events, more often and at varying scales - some long duration over multiple episodes some local and short duration.

4. Refuelling/Rearm/Resupply.

5. Salvage/Reclamation.

6. Rescue services - in his last ISC appearance Tony Zurovec mentioned that NPC's attacked by pirates along trade routes would put out distress beacons the players can answer because the NPC AI ship has been destroyed and they are in their escape pods.

7. In-verse competitions such as racing (there are other sports coming too) which will be held on an almost daily basis. Players and NPc's will be able to swim, we have lakes and rivers coming. Kayaking or white water rafting may be a possibility. We have ice planets so that we could have snowboarding, skiing, snowmobiles, ice skating on the frozen lake at New Babbage. If they are going to put pool tables and basketball courts into the game you can be sure there will be events planned around those activities.

8. Wild animal hunting/capturing. Exotic fish trading.

This isn't even a complete list since it doesn't even touch on the scripted/organised local activities. Each location in the verse will have both Empire-wide holidays and events as well as local events, they also have local sporting events specific to that location. Surfing on Tangeroa for example. We know that Orison will have guided tours for 'tourists' conducted by NPC's. The Chairman's Club Handbook for Concierge members talks about the Port Renatus Metropolitan Opera House on Mars and Fashion Week on Terra III. We have the minimum of some game features now simply as proof of concept, for example the in-game shopping experience will be hugely expanded once the server capacity expands.

Don't forget the time sink that having your own home and fleet of ships will be just to manage and maintain them.

CIG are very keen to facilitate player organised events - we have bars in the game, couple this with FOIP/VOIP and you can have quiz night or karaoke night. Everything doesn't have to be about 'quest missions', the game universe will have plenty of entertainment and more places to visit and things to do than most players will be able to manage in a lifetime. Have you heard of the in-game internet service? The Spectrum? It will have regular shows (news and entertainment) and events too.

The problem is that the game is already huge and complex and so takes time to build, making it more complex than already planned won't solve anything and it isn't even necessary to have a system to make player based 'quests' since players will be a small minority in the game universe. The Quantum system will dwarf any players input.

[EDIT] How cool would it be to attend the in-game School Of Xenoliguistics to learn Xi'An, Banu or Tevarin - or even Vanduul. Or to have to attend for a flight/driving exam to get a license for a road vehicle or space ship.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!
Is the game out yet?

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ
Normies having to restock vending machines in Star Citizen because they were Goon FUD haters and didn't invest $4,000 in spaceships before the game went live

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

that all sounds very tedious, it's either a facsimile of something that is already tedious, or an ingame facsimile of something that is fun in real life because it's real, or ingame versions of things that are already one step removed from reality like ingame tv shows and ingame internet which....well, maybe just watch tv?


where's the space adventure with pew pew gun battles and nearly dying and your friend gets shot and it's all dramatic and you feel feelings and poo poo? stuff that would be horrible and scary and BAD in real life but is fun in a pretend game because no one actually dies or gets shot?

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Fatkraken posted:

that all sounds very tedious, it's either a facsimile of something that is already tedious, or an ingame facsimile of something that is fun in real life because it's real, or ingame versions of things that are already one step removed from reality like ingame tv shows and ingame internet which....well, maybe just watch tv?


where's the space adventure with pew pew gun battles and nearly dying and your friend gets shot and it's all dramatic and you feel feelings and poo poo? stuff that would be horrible and scary and BAD in real life but is fun in a pretend game because no one actually dies or gets shot?

I can see having NPCs doing all those menial tasks, and maybe if you felt so inclined being able to take over their job briefly because it might be amusing to serve drinks or fix a toilet between doing more interesting things, but yeah no one is going to be doing that poo poo for any appreciable amount of time that's crazy

but what's crazier is thinking any of this will materialize in any meaningful, non-pre-alpha way, without your bartenders constantly falling through the floor and the drinks they make crashing your client when you take a sip

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
Vending machine re-stocking

Well we have that to look forward to. Who is the re-stock person? What is their life story? Where do they hang-out on the weekends? Do they have a family?
I look forward to discovering all of this.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Internetjack posted:

Vending machine re-stocking

Well we have that to look forward to. Who is the re-stock person? What is their life story? Where do they hang-out on the weekends? Do they have a family?
I look forward to discovering all of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R2syyseBJg

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




quote:

[EDIT] How cool would it be to attend the in-game School Of Xenoliguistics to learn Xi'An, Banu or Tevarin - or even Vanduul.

Hot job opening!!! Do you have a degree in linguistics and a passion for teaching? Seeking a candidate to invent curriculum and film four semesters (approx. 200 hours) of university-style lectures to teach fictional languages, from beginning to advanced. Each language series will be featured as optional in-game content that Star Citizens can attend to enrich their game experience. Applicants must be fluent in Chinese, Arabic, or another language that seems exotic to english speaking western audiences.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

lol Star Citizen

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


feelix posted:

Normies having to restock vending machines in Star Citizen because they were Goon FUD haters and didn't invest $4,000 in spaceships before the game went live

Finally my dream of roleplaying as Rimmer can come true.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Internetjack posted:

Vending machine re-stocking

Well we have that to look forward to. Who is the re-stock person? What is their life story? Where do they hang-out on the weekends? Do they have a family?
I look forward to discovering all of this.

No you see I won't be doing it. I'm the captain of a 20 person ship. I'll have one of the non-funders do the restocking. They'll be jumping over each other to work on my ship.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I'll enlist on your ship and then just loaf around all day while eating curry and calling you a smeghead.

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

Mirificus posted:


quote:

7. In-verse competitions such as racing (there are other sports coming too) which will be held on an almost daily basis. Players and NPc's will be able to swim, we have lakes and rivers coming. Kayaking or white water rafting may be a possibility. We have ice planets so that we could have snowboarding, skiing, snowmobiles, ice skating on the frozen lake at New Babbage. If they are going to put pool tables and basketball courts into the game you can be sure there will be events planned around those activities.



I'm a champion star citizen sprinter I can hold down the w-key longer than anyone!

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Internetjack posted:

Vending machine re-stocking

Well we have that to look forward to. Who is the re-stock person? What is their life story? Where do they hang-out on the weekends? Do they have a family?
I look forward to discovering all of this.

Alexander the Great's chief eunuch has finally joined his master. The man who kept his underpants on coat-hangers and sewed name labels into his ship-issue condoms has gone. Life will never be the same.

We have lost the finest, the most dedicated vending machine repair man the Space Corps - no, no - the *universe* has ever known. No one ever pressed for a Coke, and got oxtail soup and orange juice by mistake on *his* shift - well, actually, that's not true: we all did but what the smeg, this is his eulogy.

He didn't have very many friends, but those that he did have were with him at the end. Even Rachel, who I suppose in many ways is his widow.

[Camera pans along the seated crew, stopping at a fourth chair where Rachel, the inflatable doll, sits dressed in widow's black]

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
An infinite amount of devs pounding at an infinite amount of keyboards and given infinite time will, eventually, create Star Citizen

.random
May 7, 2007

Mirificus posted:

quote:

Don't forget the time sink that having your own home and fleet of ships will be just to manage and maintain them.

I, too, often use the term “time sink” on enjoyable, optional activities in my life.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Lodin posted:

I'll enlist on your ship and then just loaf around all day while eating curry and calling you a smeghead.

You will be punished by anal rape for your insubordination which will be in version 00000.114 alpha. (please don't probe me, an actual "player" literally wanted anal rape)

Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

Lodin posted:

I'll enlist on your ship and then just loaf around all day while eating curry and calling you a smeghead.

You're on report mister just as soon as I get back from repairing the drive plate.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Vice President posted:

You're on report mister just as soon as I get back from repairing the drive plate restocking the vending machine.

DoomLazer
Jun 1, 2011
Forget the 9-5 grind of vending machine restocking, I'm going to be a surf bum on Tangeroa.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




It's my dream to stock vending machines 14 hours per day, but I have to face reality. The more likely outcome is that I will be unable to work after my eyes are removed and grafted to my feet and my bones are replaced with imperial painsticks when I'm caught walking across the street at a non-designated crossing site.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
In the interest of realism, the non funders should be able to mutiny.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
I like the quote from a few pages back about letting "star residence" play for free and hiring them to man your super spaceship.

Has this person not played an mmog before? Have they never heard of the concept of greifing?

I'd freely play laser cannon specialist #3 and in the critical battle just not fire my laser cannon because of "lol", and watch the $1000 starship be destroyed along with me and everyone else. For free. Its a scenario more realistic than "play nice, how I want you to".

Jessant
Jun 16, 2001

Presumably if you do a bad job in your menial task role on a whales spaceship there has to be consequences? So a meta game of deliberately making everything as filthy and dangerous for the captain of the ship as possible so you can steal his ship when he dies is inevitable?

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Griefing would be a lot easier if the game worked.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
playing SC is a self-griefing experience

Jessant
Jun 16, 2001

The idea of playing a game where you are spilling liquids, precariously balancing crates and poking holes in pipelines trying to set up an accident for a star citizen whale while they walk around their ship bloviating in their VR headset is much more interesting that anything proposed by star citizen.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




The true experience of every PvP MMO is that your friends drag you into it by selling what a great time you're gonna have griefing the pubbies together, and then you end up spending all your time grinding some miserable systems designed to keep you logging in every day and never get to the griefing pubbies stage before you get bored and quit. Star Citizen's great innovation is that the grind will include the most mundane activities possible that have nothing at all to do with combat or character power.

ShredsYouSay
Sep 22, 2011

How's his widow holding up?
Why are people psyched about going to see a literal space opera in a space game.

Otoh full performance capture of Macbeth or something by good actors as a standalone product where you could move the virtual camera around could be neat. As a standalone thing.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

serious norman posted:

Is the game out yet?

Out in stores? Not really.
Out of date? Most certainly.

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Captain of the Blue Whale, leaving port to complete a vital mission.

Captain: Welcome aboard Star Residents. We are going on a routine cargo delivery run. I want the gunners on station at all time in case we run into trouble. The steward should have my dinner ready by 7 and also I want the cargo organized enroute according to the attached pdf’s instructions to ensure efficient unloading at the destination. engineer I want you to minimize fuel expenditure to lower costs. Welcome aboard. Note that any disruptions to the routine I specify will result in forfeiture of a portion or all of your pay as stipulated in the construct signed. The menial meal will be delivered to the staff after my meal is completed and must be eaten at your station.

(A few minutes pass)

Captain: Engineer, why are the engines redlining?

Engineer: I am testing the propulsion system to make sure everything is ship shape and to get us out of the atmosphere so we can hyperspace faster.

Captain: Stop it! You are wasting valuable fuel. That is coming out of your paycheck.

Turret 1: Betcha can’t hit that police fighter on the left.

Turret 2: Watch me.

Captain: Stop it. Do you know how much paying off the assault on a police ship will cost?

Turret 1: Sorry, I will shoot this merchant instead.

Turret 2: Cap, turn a little to the left and we can catch him in a crossfire and steal his stuff.

Captain: NO!

Turret 2: Fine, I will shoot my own merchant.

Captain: Engineer, cut power to the turrets.

Engineer: Sorry sir, in the middle of a rewiring job.

Captain: They are shooting at us. We have to get out of here.

Steward: Don’t worry captain. I have a plan to divert the pursuit.

Captain: What are you.....why are you opening the airlock.....you dumped the cargo. What the hell are you doing?

Steward: They will be too busy picking it up to chase us.

Captain: That’s it. You are all relieved of duty. Wait, why are we slowing. Engineer, what did you do? Turrets, stop shooting that police battleship. It can destroy this ship with ease and I don’t have insurance.

Engineer: Can’t do it captain. I am rerouting all excess power to mine CryptoCitizen coins.

Captain: Why?

Engineer: You don’t pay me enough not to.

Captain: That is it. I am coming back to my quarters now. I expect you all to be there. You need a severe dressing down.

(Captain enters his quarters and triggers an improvised trap as his dinner is dumped all over him)

Captain: Why would you? Do you know how much that bottle of space wine cost? Wait, why is this door locked? Let me out!!!

Engineer: Had to cut power to the internal doors to keep the shields up. That battleship is hitting us hard. The Steward is going to the cockpit and is going to help us deal with the police battleship in pursuit. Turrets, fire at anything you like.

Steward: All in favor of ramming speed?

All except Captain: Aye!!!

Captain: Noooo! I don’t have insurance. Who are you people and why are you doing this?

Turret 1: Goons.

Captain: What?

Turret: You hired Goons.

Captain: Hired Goons?

(BOOM!)

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InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

So when this game launches officially is there going to be a full reset and everyone has to start over? I'm just trying to figure out if I should jump in now to setup my intergalactic vending machine empire or wait until launch. I don't want to allow for a competitor to get a stronghold in the busy hubs.

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