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Not sure how you’d even be a hero with a poison gas quirk. Maybe he could use it to power some hydraulic gear.
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He'd make a killing as a fumigator. Assuming he found a job that let him use his Quirk.
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Apr 13, 2021 12:30
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I thought his quirk gas wasn't lethal? There's a few students who get knocked out by it and don't die.
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Apr 13, 2021 12:49
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A hero that emits non lethal knock out gas with no lasting side effects would be immensely useful. He'd be more or less the male version of Miss Midnight but with the added bonus of sight disruption.
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It seemed like a knockout gas, although there's no information about what long term exposure would do to someone. I assume it's bad since Jirou and Hagakure were unconscious in the hospital for even longer than it took for Deku to be patched up and relatively alright after annihilating his arms again. If it's fully nonlethal, then Mustard just has another version of Midnight's quirk, with the downside that he's not immune to it but the upside that it doesn't require skin exposure to work and he can definitely pump out more of it than she seemed to be able to. In that case, there's no reason Mustard couldn't have gotten into a hero school (although probably not UA since the entrance exam involves robots - he'd be just as badly off as Shinsou was). CuwiKhons fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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They were in the hospital for a while, but given that Mustard was also totally fine with murdering people, it could just be that they got an overdose since he didn't stop pumping gas out until he got bludgeoned unconscious. Even the most benign anesthetic will gently caress you up horribly if you get too much of it.
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Apr 13, 2021 13:10
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Oh yeah, I'm sure the main threat from Mustard's gas in that situation was the fact that anybody knocked out by it would be left helpless, so they could be killed by the forest fire, another villain, or Mustard just straight up shooting them. Mustard could be a great hero if he wasn't a little shithead.
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It’s also a quirk that straight up would not work on robots, like Shinso’s mind control, so Mustard absolutely fails the UA hero entrance exam.
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Apr 13, 2021 13:24
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His gas is stated as being lethal with too much exposure, and to require hospitalization to treat.
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Apr 13, 2021 14:12
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MonsterEnvy posted:lethal with too much exposure, and to require hospitalization to treat.
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Apr 13, 2021 14:13
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PMush Perfect posted:This is also true of super strength. Unlike Super Strength utterly indiscriminate. He can blast a massive area, or no area, no in between. If he took the UA Hero exam he would have knocked out all other participants, who would have needed hospitalization. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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Apr 13, 2021 14:15
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If there's a hero that can knock people out/kill them with lethal gas, and a hero who can create fungus seemingly anywhere spores can go, then it follows that there are heroes out there that are basically walking plumes of dust like Pig Pen except THC.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Unlike Super Strength utterly indiscriminate. He can blast a massive area, or no area, no in between. If he took the UA Hero exam he would have knocked out all other participants, who would have needed hospitalization. Why are people bending over backwards to make a pitiable, relatable character out of the gas mask-wearing chuuni who named himself after mustard gas and tried to kill kids with an actual gun? Normally when a character gets people stretching this far to come up with excuses for them, it’s because he’s a hot villain guy with a popular slash fic.
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Apr 13, 2021 14:36
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PMush Perfect posted:Not necessarily. Midnight has a similar quirk, and she uses it just fine. Midnight does not target a whole city block with her quirk, and her quirk has no toxic properties. She seems to be able to fine tune and aim it to a degree. Also I don't think Mustard is a relatable character. I just think he was rejected from a hero course, for not being fit for being a hero. A relatable character would not have become basically the equivalent of a spree shooter over it.
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MonsterEnvy posted:His gas is stated as being lethal with too much exposure, and to require hospitalization to treat. This is also true of any anesthetic powerful enough to knock you unconscious, though. PMush Perfect posted:Why are people bending over backwards to make a pitiable, relatable character out of the gas mask-wearing chuuni who named himself after mustard gas and tried to kill kids with an actual gun? Normally when a character gets people stretching this far to come up with excuses for them, it’s because he’s a hot villain guy with a popular slash fic. Nobody was really doing this, as far as I can see. Someone idly wondered how a kid ended up joining up with a pack of insane serial killers, then the conversation mentioned him being a student and not liking hero school students, then his quirk came up and people began idly speculating on whether or not his quirk could be used for things besides mass murder.
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Kanos posted:This is also true of any anesthetic powerful enough to knock you unconscious, though. True. Though are anesthetics considered to be toxic?
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PMush Perfect posted:Normally when a character gets people stretching this far to come up with excuses for them, it’s because he’s a hot villain guy with a popular slash fic. But enough about Endeavor 
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MonsterEnvy posted:True. Though are anesthetics considered to be toxic? Absolutely, yes!
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What if Mustard was lying about his quirk and brought some gas canisters. Turns out he's actually Snipe's son and inherited his GUN quirk. He wanted to make it a big reveal, but doesn't have the spirit to do it anymore since Dabi got in there first.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Absolutely, yes! I'm just an interested layman, but my impression is that quite a lot of modern medicine boils down to "Now we,re going to poison you just enough that it will solve this particular problem".
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Apr 14, 2021 01:47
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Dosis sola facit venenum and all that
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Anshu posted:I'm just an interested layman, but my impression is that quite a lot of modern medicine boils down to "Now we,re going to poison you just enough that it will solve this particular problem". This is also the rationale behind alcohol
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Your body really does not like being unconscious, and is very good at regaining it. If you get knocked out by anything and you're down for more than 3-5 minutes there's a good chance you either have brain damage, or are dying. That's why knocking people out with blows to the neck/head is always kinda funny to me as a "Ah, I have solved this with no violence" thing. Like, you gave them a concussion- that's literally brain damage. Medically- the #1 person most likely to kill you on the table is the anesthesiologist, because the lines between you waking up during surgery, staying safely unconscious/sedated, and your heart/lungs stopping are incredibly thin. It's also why they make the most money of anyone in the operating room.
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Mustard's quirk could be insanely useful against robots if he used it to create grenades of compressed mustard gas; with significant compression and impact force he could probably take them out pretty quick.
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Cloks posted:Mustard's quirk could be insanely useful against robots if he used it to create grenades of compressed mustard gas; with significant compression and impact force he could probably take them out pretty quick. Even if he could use his quirk to disable the robots, say that way. He would have also attacked all other examinees at the same time.
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It will always be funny how completely dumb the "let a disorganized mass of superpowered children who have never really been allowed full free reign with their superpowers before(and also have no real combat training) loose against an army of combat robots and determine who's worthy to enter our hero school by finding out who proves to be the best at punching robots. oh i guess we'll also give some points if they happen to help each other in the process at some point?" concept is on numerous levels. Like even in-universe there's multiple examples of characters with incredibly powerful and useful quirks for hero stuff, even direct combat hero stuff, who are completely and totally frozen out by that model.
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Kanos posted:It will always be funny how completely dumb the "let a disorganized mass of superpowered children who have never really been allowed full free reign with their superpowers before(and also have no real combat training) loose against an army of combat robots and determine who's worthy to enter our hero school by finding out who proves to be the best at punching robots. oh i guess we'll also give some points if they happen to help each other in the process at some point?" concept is on numerous levels.
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Fabricated posted:This kinda gets lampshaded a bit because Aizawa complains about exactly that fact more than once, and some of the people in the audience for the sports festival point it out. Yeah, at least the series calls it out, but I'm really curious how something so obviously flawed and dumb(and not to mention probably REALLY EXPENSIVE, to boot, based on the talk about the robots during the AFO prison break sequence) became the entry test for the most prestigious and important hero school in the country.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, at least the series calls it out, but I'm really curious how something so obviously flawed and dumb(and not to mention probably REALLY EXPENSIVE, to boot, based on the talk about the robots during the AFO prison break sequence) became the entry test for the most prestigious and important hero school in the country. I assume the robot expense is covered by one of the quirks of the staff, just like how cementos is the only reason they can destroy fake city blocks for free day in and day out.
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I still have no idea how Hagakure passed the robot exam. I don't think she was able to do her light refraction laser stuff back then.
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The robots are all actually amalgamations of rejected tech from the entire student body for the tech department.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, at least the series calls it out, but I'm really curious how something so obviously flawed and dumb(and not to mention probably REALLY EXPENSIVE, to boot, based on the talk about the robots during the AFO prison break sequence) became the entry test for the most prestigious and important hero school in the country. I assume it's something Nezu came up with.
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Kanos posted:Yeah, at least the series calls it out, but I'm really curious how something so obviously flawed and dumb(and not to mention probably REALLY EXPENSIVE, to boot, based on the talk about the robots during the AFO prison break sequence) became the entry test for the most prestigious and important hero school in the country. Like what happens if someone's quirk is "I can instantly destroy/deactivate robots and absolutely nothing else" specifically?
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CuwiKhons posted:I still have no idea how Hagakure passed the robot exam. I don't think she was able to do her light refraction laser stuff back then. The robots have off-switches, Hagakure and Mineta pressed them to defeat them (Hagakure snuck up on them, Mineta stuck them in place and climbed up to press).
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Kanos posted:It will always be funny how completely dumb the "let a disorganized mass of superpowered children who have never really been allowed full free reign with their superpowers before(and also have no real combat training) loose against an army of combat robots and determine who's worthy to enter our hero school by finding out who proves to be the best at punching robots. oh i guess we'll also give some points if they happen to help each other in the process at some point?" concept is on numerous levels. Wouldn't Midnight be completely ineffective during that test?
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Is it the same test every year?
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Maybe it's something that was less of an issue back then but gradually became one as the test became more standardized. No Quirk Left Behind
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CuwiKhons posted:I still have no idea how Hagakure passed the robot exam. I don't think she was able to do her light refraction laser stuff back then. They can't prove she didn't destroy all those robots!
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ahahah this owns https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1382366115284750342?s=20
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There's also the rescue portion of the test where I assume people with non-combat quirks could score points, or at least where you could show grit even if your quirk doesn't affect robots or help you fish people out. I would also not be shocked if they gave you some kind of comp points if you had an obviously-peacekeeping-compatible quirk like Midnight's, although they should have absolutely given those points to Shinsou as well.
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