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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

BrigadierSensible posted:

Buck Angel the trans man porn star?

What's he done/said? I thought he was a pretty chill dude.
Oh the list is endless but you probably only need to see this to get the gist of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/buckangel/status/1309893534753763328?lang=en

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kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

learnincurve posted:

Oh the list is endless but you probably only need to see this to get the gist of it.


roblox oof

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Buck Angel the trans man porn star?

What's he done/said? I thought he was a pretty chill dude.

He transitioned when being trans was more hell than it was now and only extremely binary gender categories were seen as valid by sexologists and decided that it must be the one true way and kids these days are just trenders

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
That article gets worse if you click through and see who wrote it...

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

OwlFancier posted:

To you and a surprising number of people who are very emotionally invested in the thing.

(if you can remember which way the red an white bits go you get the guillotine)

I don't give a poo poo about the UK flag and will be happy if Scotland leaves you y'all have to change it, but why the gently caress would you have a flag that looks like that and not have it be symmetric?

Euphoriaphone
Aug 10, 2006

kirbysuperstar posted:

https://twitter.com/hellaplus/status/1382792229987655681?s=20

e: need to click through to see the entire thing, good grief

The IOSM's final argument is "humanity only survived because of Vault-Tec's vaults!", but even in the most sycophantic view is that even true? Sure, every Fallout game you play as a vault-dweller, but the vast majority of people you encounter are non-vault-dwellers right? I'm not steeped in Fallout lore, but my impression is most of the survivors at the time of the games are descendants of people that avoided the blasts on the surface.

The IOSM also ignores the fact that only like 2 of the 100+ vaults were designed to ever open, and every other case of vault-dwellers resurfacing is another example of capitalism failing.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

goblin week posted:

He transitioned when being trans was more hell than it was now and only extremely binary gender categories were seen as valid by sexologists and decided that it must be the one true way and kids these days are just trenders

He's also a transmedicalist--basically 'you're only trans if you get straight-up medical treatment for it' if you need the translation. Which is... y'know, not cool in general, but is abundantly not cool in the current political climate.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Skwirl posted:

I don't give a poo poo about the UK flag and will be happy if Scotland leaves you y'all have to change it, but why the gently caress would you have a flag that looks like that and not have it be symmetric?

Ultimately it's to make sure the scottish cross isn't totally relegated to the background. I guess they decided rotational symmetry looked nicer than reflective when deciding which way to bisect the diagonals.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

I don't give a poo poo about the UK flag and will be happy if Scotland leaves you y'all have to change it, but why the gently caress would you have a flag that looks like that and not have it be symmetric?

lmao

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Skwirl posted:

I don't give a poo poo about the UK flag and will be happy if Scotland leaves you y'all have to change it, but why the gently caress would you have a flag that looks like that and not have it be symmetric?

How can you give people poo poo about hanging it upside down if you make it rotationally symmetric?

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009



e:

Isaiah 5:20 posted:

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

FirstAidKite has a new favorite as of 10:55 on Apr 16, 2021

Cicadalek
May 8, 2006

Trite, contrived, mediocre, milquetoast, amateurish, infantile, cliche-and-gonorrhea-ridden paean to conformism, eye-fucked me, affront to humanity, war crime, should *literally* be tried for war crimes, talentless fuckfest, pedantic, listless, savagely boring, just one repulsive laugh after another

Euphoriaphone posted:

The IOSM's final argument is "humanity only survived because of Vault-Tec's vaults!", but even in the most sycophantic view is that even true? Sure, every Fallout game you play as a vault-dweller, but the vast majority of people you encounter are non-vault-dwellers right? I'm not steeped in Fallout lore, but my impression is most of the survivors at the time of the games are descendants of people that avoided the blasts on the surface.

The IOSM also ignores the fact that only like 2 of the 100+ vaults were designed to ever open, and every other case of vault-dwellers resurfacing is another example of capitalism failing.

Just off the top of my head, Vegas gets barely nuked at all because Mr. House had tech in place to shoot down incoming nukes. I guess that's not much of a counterexample since House is basically the Fallout equivalent of a techbro, but I'd be shocked if there are not more examples.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

BrigadierSensible posted:

Buck Angel the trans man porn star?

What's he done/said? I thought he was a pretty chill dude.

He outed Lana Wachowski because his wife left him for her.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
Being a troubled kid is only a death sentence if you're black though.
Also "he would've killed you if he had the chance" like he's a loving rabid dog or a starved lion or some poo poo. Yeah man, black people just commit murder for no reason, they just do that! Sure!

I see people spout this ingrained mentality all the time with "Oh yeah you think black people are GOOD? Well try walking in HARLEM and see how long you live!!" Like, even ignoring that your dumb stereotype is also wildly outdated for the area, you know people live there, right? They just think if you spend too much time in a black area you just die, some random murderous black person will just run up and kill you for no reason at all, just like that.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Bottom Liner posted:

AKA deflecting from the current issue and justifying everything people criticize her for to pad her credibility in this issue. Even in the cases she may have a point, it's in service of a manipulation tactic.

It's bad because in that section she clearly has more nuance and depth when it comes to past, arguably worse things she's said and done, and refuses to apply that to the current situation, deliberately obfuscating the criticism (she glibly calls it "I compared disney thing to nickelodeon thing" at the start) and blaming white people trying to out woke each other, and how she kind of respects the alt-right/gamer gate dudes who harassed her more than whoever's doing it now. There's also a whole bit where she goes into how she's a white girl from tenessee and americans are steeped in institutional racism. And it's like yes, that's correct. Please apply it to the tweet people are complaining about.

I'd like to think if I had a bad take and said something kind of racist without realizing, and people called me out on it, I'd be like "oh poo poo. thanks for letting me know. I don't want to be racist, even accidentally" And not make a hundred minute video on it.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cicadalek posted:

Just off the top of my head, Vegas gets barely nuked at all because Mr. House had tech in place to shoot down incoming nukes. I guess that's not much of a counterexample since House is basically the Fallout equivalent of a techbro, but I'd be shocked if there are not more examples.

Little Lamplight was founded by a bunch of kids on a field trip to the caverns when the bombs fell.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Megaton was founded by people trying to get into Vault 101.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
A lot of it is white bread anime nerds with literally no other interests or identity, not understanding how little of a gently caress most people give about anime though, and if you ever say that on twitter you best get ready to lock down your account because death threats are coming.

This wall of toxic whinging, inter community references, bad spelling, made up nonsense words, nonexistent grammar rage posting attack attack attack poo poo makes it really hard for people not into anime to figure out if someone is actually in the wrong or not. Even if they are you just end up utterly despising the people attacking them irregardless.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
In Fallout 1 pretty much everyone with a known origin came out of a vault or a military bunker. The Vaults being experiments isn't in any way contradicted in Fallout 1 but isn't really a Thing in the story, they're all just portrayed as kinda badly built.

Fallout 2 though, if you core away from THAT thinking capitalism = good then point_shooting_over_head_cool_power_armour.gif

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Byzantine posted:

I mean, as far as I understand it, the sequence of events was

Ellis compares Raya unfavorably to Avatar.
Twitter crowd gets mad because they decide this means she disrespects SE Asian artists/creators (Raya was headed by SE Asian people while Avatar was done by whitey)
Ellis says "i guess it looks like that if you squint, but that's not what I meant"
The mob decides she's making a racist joke, goes ballistic.

Idk, I don't see how that's her responsibility that twitter decided to put the absolute worst interpretation on her words, though maybe I missed something. And if they're already going to take the worst possible spin they can get, no combination of words will ever satisfy.

No you're pretty much right as far as I can see. Ive seen some actual constructive criticism from people I believe are Asian, but they just got drowned out by people clambering over them to cancel her while shouting 'LISTEN TO POC' over and over within the first few hours, then shouting down any POC who didn't understand the fuss and agreed with her original claim about the Disney film. There was probably a brief window of an hour or two where I learnt some interesting things and heard from some perspectives I hadn't before. But then it went trending and it was just another another example of why twitter is garbage.

It probably would have been easier for Lindsey to just take an L and move on, but making a movie length response video to the whole thing and going over all of her past transgressions is very on brand breadtube.

Its also worth noting, Raya being 'headed by SE Asian people' is a bit of a stretch. The original screenplay was written by two Asian people true. But Disney then fleshed out the rest of the writing team with white people, gave it two white producers and then got FOUR people to direct it, not one of them Asian.
More Asian stories is a good thing but disney are being given far more praise than they deserve for this.

Mega Comrade has a new favorite as of 13:25 on Apr 16, 2021

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Fatty Crabcakes posted:

Yeah, and it's hardly her first rodeo either and she deffo got the gently caress out of her lane with the whole Buck Angel thing
Correct me if I'm wrong, but she got dragged out of her lane by screeching idiots demanding Ellis (and basically all of lefttube) publicly denounce and break ties with The Traitor Natalie Wynn, after Contrapoints used a 10 second clip of another trans man who had done some horrible poo poo.

If it's any deeper than liking some of Wynn's tweets attempting to defend herself, please tell me.


BrigadierSensible posted:

Buck Angel the trans man porn star?

What's he done/said? I thought he was a pretty chill dude.
Publicly outed one of the Wachowski sisters out of spite, when said sister slept with Angel's partner. Also uses Transsexual as a self identifier and is a transmed, as previously mentioned.

Buck Angel is bad, but I'm not sure anyone is in the right calling people transphobic for associating with people who associate with him.


Douche Wolf 89 posted:

I know the popular sentiment is to pearl clutch over "left wing people always cannibalize their own" or "twitter is a hell site", but twitter is a place you can log off of.
I mean it's part of her full time job. Twitter is a huge part of her engagement and if it becomes poisoned every time she posts, that's a massive problem for her in terms of paying the bills.


Samovar posted:

Hmmm. I confess I'd be hard pressed in how to give an apology that would be sincere (that is, if I made this mistake before, there's a chance that I could do something like it again, even with me trying not to do so) and not sound like... Well, performative flagellation, which would actually interfere with me trying not do it again.
I feel like the problem with non apologies - and I do include Ellis in this instance - is that the person acts like they want to apologise once and then have it be over. But if you genuinely understand why you did something wrong then why wouldn't you apologise every time it comes up?

You don't have to wail and rub dirt in your hair and publicly whip yourself, just whenever someone brings it up, say 'oh yeah, that was a dumb word to use in that context, sorry.'

There's a British comedian called Jim Davidson (actual straight up chud from the 80s and 90s - you don't have to go looking, the core concepts are racism and sexism), and there was a video of him circulating on YouTube at a book signing, where he was whining about how he 'can't keep apologising for stuff I said 20, 30 years ago.'

And it goes back to my earlier point - yes he can, it doesn't cost anything but your pride, and if he genuinely understands why it was bad then it would be automatic to say 'poo poo yeah that was bad' every time it came up.

You also have to bear in mind that Ellis currently getting dragged is definitely being exacerbated by right wing chuds who want to take her down because of her generally progressive leftist stance. I'm not daying the whole thing is a false flag, but you have to admit, things like this blow up differently for left wingers.


Douche Wolf 89 posted:

The "this is a weird take because (legitimate reasons)" responses were grouped together with supposed death threats and accusations of racism that honestly I didn't see much of in the now deleted twitter replies.
Do bear in mind that a lot of the abuse is going to be via weird, stalky PMs from people who don't want their psychoses on public display. Saying you didn't see it doesn't mean it's not there, magawarrior1488 isn't going to publicly reply with her address and a photo of a knife covered in cum or whatever the latest 8chan intimidation tactic is.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
DMs, replies and quote tweets from absolute dangers with zero skin in the game who think, correctly on twitter, that they can “get away” with sending a woman all sorts of sketchy incel poo poo without anyone coming to her defence while she is being ratioed is absolutely a thing.

Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug

quote:

Agincourt

Hey guys, remember when Henry V used trumped up claims to the crown of France and forced thousands of peasants to die in a war, only for himself to die of dysentery soon after winning and have his nutball son lose it all? Truly, a proud moment that should still be celebrated reverently in the modern day.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Social media question. After having spent the last few years on twitter arguing with racists and terfs I'm considering turning my twitter account into a personal account for my artwork etc.

I have a finely curated block list I'd like to maintain. If I delete all my accounts tweets and change the handle and remove all my followers. Can I start using it "freshly" then or will I get doxed by fascists 2 years later for posts I made in 2018?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/okSettleDown/status/1383054352638689282

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019



Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Chrissy Teigen made a big hoopla about leaving Twitter and now she's back



Fellas, is it gay to eat boneless wings?



According to Anton LeVay, liking bleu cheese makes you gay, so eating boneless wings with bleu cheese dressing makes you gay squared.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"

This gently caress: "[13 year old minority child] would've killed you if he had the chance!"
Also this gently caress: [identifies self as NRA member]

:ironicat:

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Fellas, is it gay to eat boneless wings?



This has never made sense to me. Sure, debate about whether boneless wings are truly wings or not! But why would a boneless wing be less "manly" than a bone-in? Sure, you don't get to live your Neanderthal fantasy of tearing (fried, heavily sauced) meat off the bone, but boneless wings consist of more meat, like by design? It's not like the choices are "bone-in wing or cauliflower wing"...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I feel like you probably shouldn't take life advice from anton lavey just generally.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Real men SUCK the MEAT off the BONE

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Euphoriaphone posted:

The IOSM's final argument is "humanity only survived because of Vault-Tec's vaults!", but even in the most sycophantic view is that even true? Sure, every Fallout game you play as a vault-dweller, but the vast majority of people you encounter are non-vault-dwellers right? I'm not steeped in Fallout lore, but my impression is most of the survivors at the time of the games are descendants of people that avoided the blasts on the surface.

The IOSM also ignores the fact that only like 2 of the 100+ vaults were designed to ever open, and every other case of vault-dwellers resurfacing is another example of capitalism failing.

It's ambiguous because all of the games are set long after the regular Vaults opened back up (except 76 but gently caress 76), so the only ones left are the disasters or otherwise weird. It is mentioned a few times that the vaults did help with recovery, but they wouldn't have been needed if the US wasn't a violent dick who was hording technology, invading former allies and pumping them for resources, and sabotaging other countries' attempts to support themselves.

And yeah, humanity survived everywhere.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

everyone knows the war in fallout was started by aliens

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
isnt it only the US and China that got nuked? I mean yeah, global fallout, but the other countries probably have a way better QOL when their infrastructure didnt get vaporized.


also my only 0.02$ on boneless / wyngz is that there's a decent % of restaurants where boneless is cheaper than bone.

Also if you have a freezer and a pot, and you still get boneless for home, youre a bad person, stockpile that poo poo and make broth. or be terrible and order a ton of wings for one setting and make broth same day / tomorrow.

Read After Burning
Feb 19, 2013

"All this, for me? 💃Ah, you didn't have to! 🥰"
Here's something a bit more light-hearted...American idiots on social media!

So one of the contestants on Drag Race UK posted this.

https://twitter.com/biminibabes/status/1383041294554038273


She started getting a bunch of (presumably American) baby Robespierres calling for her head. Except...

A "landlady" when referring to a British pub is not the same thing as an American landlord. They even referenced pub landladies in the Eastenders acting challenge!

https://twitter.com/biminibabes/status/1383107501051236352

https://twitter.com/biminibabes/status/1383111766712930306

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




PhazonLink posted:

isnt it only the US and China that got nuked? I mean yeah, global fallout, but the other countries probably have a way better QOL when their infrastructure didnt get vaporized.

Other countries had their own problems IIRC, like the ersatz-EU breaking down and the former member countries going to war against each other.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Fellas, is it gay to eat boneless wings?



According to Anton LeVay, liking bleu cheese makes you gay, so eating boneless wings with bleu cheese dressing makes you gay squared.

Isn't that like a double negative and it makes you super straight?

Pustulio
Mar 21, 2012

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Other countries had their own problems IIRC, like the ersatz-EU breaking down and the former member countries going to war against each other.

Also nuclear MAD policy is to shoot everyone with as many nukes as possible, not just the country who you are at war with.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009

Euphoriaphone posted:

The IOSM's final argument is "humanity only survived because of Vault-Tec's vaults!", but even in the most sycophantic view is that even true? Sure, every Fallout game you play as a vault-dweller, but the vast majority of people you encounter are non-vault-dwellers right? I'm not steeped in Fallout lore, but my impression is most of the survivors at the time of the games are descendants of people that avoided the blasts on the surface.

The IOSM also ignores the fact that only like 2 of the 100+ vaults were designed to ever open, and every other case of vault-dwellers resurfacing is another example of capitalism failing.

On top of that, unless I'm screwing up my memories of the original lore, the big background joke is that humanity had cracked the concept of fusion power, and that a more global/less capitalist dick-swinging mindset and a little belt-tightening for a few years would have let everybody live in a Star Trek utopia once fusion power scaled up to overcome the resource crunch.

Hardwood Floor
Sep 25, 2011

Mx. posted:

but is the video better or worse than kero the wolf's video on cancel culture, when he returned from hiatus after being "so unfairly cancelled" for bestiality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVSnHnAVJO0

For the record not just bestiality, but animal torture and necrophilia. When he "returned" to the fandom, his first move was to call it drama and then try to out someone for having sex in a fursuit as if it was equivalent. Absolutely mind boggling poo poo.

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Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on

Read After Burning posted:

This has never made sense to me. Sure, debate about whether boneless wings are truly wings or not! But why would a boneless wing be less "manly" than a bone-in? Sure, you don't get to live your Neanderthal fantasy of tearing (fried, heavily sauced) meat off the bone, but boneless wings consist of more meat, like by design? It's not like the choices are "bone-in wing or cauliflower wing"...

Boneless wings are basically the same drat thing as boned wings except easier to eat. I'm convinced the "boned wings taste WAY better" crowd is just full of poo poo whether they know it or not.

The manliness part of the equation? Men are supposed to like shittier, less flavorful things for... reasons. If you're a man ordering alcohol it better be either beer or just straight hard liquor because anything with a pleasing flavor is "for women." Same goes for coffee; men are supposed to just like plain dirt water and women get to enjoy the actually good drinks with milk and sugar and poo poo added in. Of course we've seen the same claim made for dessert too, that men "shouldn't order it." Then there's cars, clothes, etc. The "manly" version of these is always as plain and generic as possible. (Edit: I realized after submitting that sometimes cars don't really fit this, what with super bright red sports cars and poo poo)

I do NOT understand the rationale, but it really does seem to boil down to "men are only allowed to enjoy the most basic, flavorless variety of anything." With wings though I guess it's more that they're harder to eat and therefore masculine? Who loving knows the whole concept of poo poo being inherently masculine is so goddamn stupid.

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