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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I have a relative who's a therapist and they used to tell me and their children incredibly personal and embarrassing stories about their patients. When I challenged them on this, they said "Oh, but I'm not telling you their names!" I never quite felt the same around mental health professionals after that.

So, yeah, finding someone with whom you can feel vulnerable and open is a much more difficult task for some people.

You don't need a binary "psychs good vs. psychs bad" mentality. I've had really good shrinks and I've had shrinks that other professionals laugh at behind their back. Just like anyone else, some therapists are good at their jobs and some aren't. Or maybe there are therapists that you, personally, have difficulty connecting to for whatever reason.

Edit: the point is, if you are going in for therapy and don't feel like it's helping, try a new therapist.

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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I have a relative who's a therapist and they used to tell me and their children incredibly personal and embarrassing stories about their patients. When I challenged them on this, they said "Oh, but I'm not telling you their names!" I never quite felt the same around mental health professionals after that.

Holy loly. This person should have their license revoked, full stop.

But yeah there are good therapists and poo poo therapists. Always remember: you're not married to your therapist and can switch at any time for any reason. Give them a chance, but if it's not clicking, it's not clicking.

Chokes McGee has issued a correction as of 15:59 on Apr 19, 2021

poll plane variant
Jan 12, 2021

by sebmojo
They're a vendor like a shoe store or gas station lol

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Chuka Umana posted:

My dude this was in the 1990s.

People still believe in MPD (as depicted in popular media like Sybil or the United States of Tara)/repressed memory theory even though it's been thoroughly discredited.

I don't think MPD gets written into shows because it's a real thing, it's just a very very convenient plot device, like amnesia.

Sanguinary Novel
Jan 27, 2009
Really internalizing that doctors of all stripes are still very human helped a hell of a lot. Made it easier to switch when things weren't working, ignore blatantly bad advice (actually was told once to get a dog and get outside more), and makes the whole thing feel less... monolithic?

Josherino
Mar 24, 2021

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Edit: the point is, if you are going in for therapy and don't feel like it's helping, try a new therapist.

Seriously happy that I saw this. A lot of folks I've worked with felt "stuck" or were intimidated by the process of finding a new therapist again, so they just kept the one they were seeing.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I have a relative who's a therapist and they used to tell me and their children incredibly personal and embarrassing stories about their patients. When I challenged them on this, they said "Oh, but I'm not telling you their names!" I never quite felt the same around mental health professionals after that.

So, yeah, finding someone with whom you can feel vulnerable and open is a much more difficult task for some people.

You don't need a binary "psychs good vs. psychs bad" mentality. I've had really good shrinks and I've had shrinks that other professionals laugh at behind their back. Just like anyone else, some therapists are good at their jobs and some aren't. Or maybe there are therapists that you, personally, have difficulty connecting to for whatever reason.

Edit: the point is, if you are going in for therapy and don't feel like it's helping, try a new therapist.

I have family who work in the field and for sure they'll tell a funny story if they have one, but it's stuff like "a patient used a funny phrase today to refer to the belief that Covid was caused by Chinese people eating bats haha" and not "oh this person was brutalized by their parents which causes them to act out like this haha". As long as they protect the identity of their patients I'm fine with their job not just being an endless parade of human suffering.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

SchnorkIes posted:

They're a vendor like a shoe store or gas station lol

look just because you spend most of your time refueling,

Uganda Loves Me
May 24, 2002


SchnorkIes posted:

They're a vendor like a shoe store or gas station lol

I'll never forget the first time I saw a sign addressing me as a "medical consumer." Christ.

Sanguinary Novel
Jan 27, 2009

Uganda Loves Me posted:

I'll never forget the first time I saw a sign addressing me as a "medical consumer." Christ.

Right up there with "human capital"

Josherino
Mar 24, 2021

Sanguinary Novel posted:

Right up there with "human capital"

There were some offices in Texas that identified patients as "units".

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Josherino posted:

There were some offices in Texas that identified patients as "units".

Josherino
Mar 24, 2021


Might have to save that for a future profile picture - thank you.

Ball Tazeman
Feb 2, 2010

My partner and myself are staying with my family for the week before closing on our house and I have nothing to do outside of work except doomscroll twitter and get broke brained about the US falling apart. Im starting to feel like buying a house was a huge mistake and I should have tried to leave the country instead. My red-pilled Q-lite mother is insufferable and all interactions either accuse you of using fragrance to intentionally cause her to have an allergic reaction, or decides to go off to me or my partner about China or socialism or transfolk or cancel culture etc. Im also NB, but have pretty much decided that Im never telling them about that or my name change. She has on more than one occasion gone on rants about how there are only 2 genders, has scolded me about my sexuality, and has been emotionally abusive and manipulative my entire life. I know its only a week, but Im already feeling like the world is mega hosed and my mental health is nearing the all time low I had earlier in winter.

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Ball Tazeman posted:

My partner and myself are staying with my family for the week before closing on our house and I have nothing to do outside of work except doomscroll twitter and get broke brained about the US falling apart. I’m starting to feel like buying a house was a huge mistake and I should have tried to leave the country instead. My red-pilled Q-lite mother is insufferable and all interactions either accuse you of using “fragrance” to intentionally cause her to have an allergic reaction, or decides to go off to me or my partner about China or socialism or transfolk or cancel culture etc. I’m also NB, but have pretty much decided that I’m never telling them about that or my name change. She has on more than one occasion gone on rants about how “there are only 2 genders”, has scolded me about my sexuality, and has been emotionally abusive and manipulative my entire life. I know it’s only a week, but I’m already feeling like the world is mega hosed and my mental health is nearing the all time low I had earlier in winter.

Same-ish situation with my dad. I've just started being really short with him when he goes off on cancel culture and libs destroying everything. Not sure how many times I've explained that I'm not a democrat, not a liberal. It doesn't matter. Fox tells him that if you're not a Fox viewer them you're a lib.

I've gotten to the point that I just pull out my phone and ignore him if he really gets going until he gets the point that he's not going to get a rise out of me. I'm expressing disinterest as hard as possible but he just keeps going.

He's just about the last person that I haven't cut out of my life for being negative. Anyone else that is negative gets tossed aside by me. I don't want that poo poo in my life anymore. But it's tough for me to do that with my dad because I feel bad for him for being as broken as he is right now. But I may need to make the decision soon.

I mean every (EVERY) conversation is just cynical commentary or negativity. Like I'm letting my parrot retrain how to fly right now outside in our yard. His comment on the whole thing? That the neighbor's dog, who I've never once seen outside, might eat her. Thats his only comment. I snapped at him that everything he says is negative and he just doesn't see it. His world view is that everything in life has turned against him.

Sorry you're going through that. It will get better. Take care of yourself first, then others.

Ball Tazeman
Feb 2, 2010

man...that exactly it too. Every single conversation is negative, even when there is no political angle. Surprisingly she is very pro-mask and pro-vaccine, luckily she trusts my opinion on immunology since I have a degree in microbio. Trip to the store? Nobody wears a mask! Taking the dog out? All the neighbors are stupid as gently caress about THEIR dog Taking care of my nephew? Kids cartoons and their forced diversity! Outside on the porch? Somebody is doing their laundry with FRAGRANCE trying to kill me! It must be tiring to be so enraged at every single thing.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
I know I shouldn't judge but the way some folks conduct themselves on video group therapy is just something else.

Sanguinary Novel
Jan 27, 2009
I'm sorry, I just can't sit still for two hours!!

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
Nah that's fine, it was more the guy yelling the r word at his phone on camera. I think I'm the only one who knows you can mute your own audio.

novaSphere
Jan 25, 2003

Hi hello thread it's been a while, been on pristiq 25mg for several months now and things have actually been not lovely in my brain given the circumstances, was able to bring weekly therapy down to every other week, and even managed to get an ADHD scrip after fighting for YEARS and it's wild how different things are.

Thank you goons for being here when I was in a very dark place. Wouldn't be in the place I am without this thread

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Consummate Professional posted:

I know I shouldn't judge but the way some folks conduct themselves on video group therapy is just something else.

I had a therapist that would say we judge, but shouldn't condemn.

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

novaSphere posted:

Hi hello thread it's been a while, been on pristiq 25mg for several months now and things have actually been not lovely in my brain given the circumstances, was able to bring weekly therapy down to every other week, and even managed to get an ADHD scrip after fighting for YEARS and it's wild how different things are.

Thank you goons for being here when I was in a very dark place. Wouldn't be in the place I am without this thread

Glad you're feeling better

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

I'm finally off all medication after 6 months of fluoxetine and quetiapine. I've cut out drinking, reduced marijuana usage. Fully vaccinated so at least I can start to participate in society once more.

I'm not happy but no longer feel dysfunctional. I can mostly operate within my standard routines.

Still struggling to get fitness integrated once more into my daily regiment. Not a fan of the 20 lbs I put on.

My psychiatrist sucks and won't see again, not that I need to. My therapist, however, is great and smarter than most. That's very important when having in-depth conversations about complex issues.

I'm not sure I'm where I need to be, but right now life is tolerable and that's a huge improvement over the past.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Covid being over in Australia has just reminded me that I'm still hosed because I can't sleep. My wife has picked up a sudden snoring habit in her 40s and it's destroying me. And because of my constant fatigue I've never been able to afford more than a one bedroom apartment, which is only quiet because it was built in the middle of a strict lockdown when everyone lost their jobs so I have no neighbours. And because it's like 20 feet from the next tower, which blocks street noise.

I spend every night just lying down and every weekend trying to nap. All I do is work, cook and sleep. Can't even play video games. If someone asks me a question at work I can't rely on myself being awake enough to speak properly.

Already done the sleep clinic thing but slept perfectly there due to no anxiety causing events (due to being at said sleep clinic) and no noise.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

novaSphere posted:

Hi hello thread it's been a while, been on pristiq 25mg for several months now and things have actually been not lovely in my brain given the circumstances, was able to bring weekly therapy down to every other week, and even managed to get an ADHD scrip after fighting for YEARS and it's wild how different things are.

Thank you goons for being here when I was in a very dark place. Wouldn't be in the place I am without this thread


No. 6 posted:

I'm finally off all medication after 6 months of fluoxetine and quetiapine. I've cut out drinking, reduced marijuana usage. Fully vaccinated so at least I can start to participate in society once more.

I'm not happy but no longer feel dysfunctional. I can mostly operate within my standard routines.

Still struggling to get fitness integrated once more into my daily regiment. Not a fan of the 20 lbs I put on.

My psychiatrist sucks and won't see again, not that I need to. My therapist, however, is great and smarter than most. That's very important when having in-depth conversations about complex issues.

I'm not sure I'm where I need to be, but right now life is tolerable and that's a huge improvement over the past.


Mental health thread success stories :3:

Peeches
May 25, 2018

A married man reached out to see if I would have an affair with him (I said no), to give context he was caught cheating last year, and he says he didn't love her then or now, and she didn't do enough to change things in the last year, he thinks it's better to stay married even though he is repulsed by her physically ( I know, what a selfish narcissist)
I feel like I should tell his wife
though I have no way of contacting her. It's been weighing on me.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Peeches posted:

A married man reached out to see if I would have an affair with him (I said no), to give context he was caught cheating last year, and he says he didn't love her then or now, and she didn't do enough to change things in the last year, he thinks it's better to stay married even though he is repulsed by her physically ( I know, what a selfish narcissist)
I feel like I should tell his wife
though I have no way of contacting her. It's been weighing on me.

he'll do it again. just saying.

Peeches
May 25, 2018

I feel like life is too short to be with someone you aren't committed to 100%, it's so unfair to her. Cheating is such a coward thing to do. Just break up and live your best life.

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Peeches posted:

I feel like life is too short to be with someone you aren't committed to 100%, it's so unfair to her. Cheating is such a coward thing to do. Just break up and live your best life.

What do you feel is the right answer?

Peeches
May 25, 2018

To what question?

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Peeches posted:

To what question?

Telling his wife.

Peeches
May 25, 2018

Ah, my heart says I would want to know. But I have no good way of reaching her. Maybe she knows, I don't know.

Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae
I feel like whatever you decide, you knew all along was the right answer.

wolfs
Jul 17, 2001

posted by squid gang

hello thread

I have a few things going on since the last time I posted -

I got terminated with cause from a job on April 13th after initially being told I was being laid off ... and Im deathly concerned I wont be able to get unemployment benefits. I have enough scratch to pay my mortgage for a few months and live frugally but the UI would make life easier.

the Texas workforce commission has to decide by May 5th whether or not I get UI - Ill definitely appeal their decision if its a no. I messaged the TWC Twitter to see if they could give me an email address to ask about what would disqualify me from getting unemployment paid out.

I saw a doctor for the first time in maybe 6 years on April 16th and he immediately prescribed me lexapro and kindly wrote a letter saying I have major depression and to accommodate me as necessary. Ive never taken a prescription medication before, nevermind an SSRI, so the experience is new to me. the doctor also said hed refer me to a therapist or counselor but that because theres a mental health crisis in this country thered probably be a wait.

the lexapro makes me nauseous and I havent had a normal bowel movement since I started taking it. I have a video follow up with this doctor May 7th and Ill report this to him then I think. its also making me sleep less?

last, Im at a loss for what kind of work I should try to pick up to make ends meet while trying to secure something in my field / tangential to my expertise. swears suggested a mid-level hotel a week ago but I dont have much customer service experience. before I was laid off Id been working nights alone since last March and took direction from the occasional email. do any of you have input? something low stress with low personal interaction would be ideal, I think, just as I process things and see how lexapro makes me feel - if my despair is letting up or not, you know?

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I can't really help you on the job arena, that whole situation sounds really rough. My heart goes out to you.

If you want to go the medication route, then keep in mind that finding the right medication can take time. Side effects can be serious, and you're going to have to weigh the positives and negatives of anything the doctor prescribes. There are tons of antidepressants out there, so don't feel like this is the only medication that you can possibly take. Finding the right medication rarely happens on the first try.

And if the side effects are really bad, you can always contact him early. I once had a medication with sexual side effects back in college, and you better loving believe I was on the phone with the doctor as soon as I figured it out.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Chuka Umana posted:

I think I'm getting kinda terrified of psychiatrists now that I'm watching a bunch of Frontline stuff on the satanic abuse stuff in the 80s and the controversy over MPD and repressed memory theory. These were some of the premier psychiatrists in the world, and they believed that average people were programmed by satanic cults to have multiple personalities to be triggered like the Manchurian candidate!! We're told to be listening to the experts and the science!!

So we've had lobotomies, electroshock, homosexuality as disease and the satanic abuse cult theories, and psychiatry has left a huge amount of wreckage in its wake. I really hope there isn't anything today that we'll look back on and think wtf were we doing?

I'm not saying don't see a psychiatrist but I've been pretty disillusioned with the whole practice outside of the medications which work.

Yeah, I told my last shrink I didn't need a therapist, and that I was having a legit, sensible response to knowledge that our planet is dying and nobody with any power gives a poo poo, combined with seeing my country elect Donald Trump into the white house. She never did take me that seriously but she was pleasant enough and would prescribe anything.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

AceOfFlames posted:

The panic was kicked off by a book written by a woman who married the psychiatrist who treated her, and said husband's position was used to give it legitimacy. No way would poo poo like that fly today.

Not to say psychiatry can't be used for misguided or sinister aims but these days I think the biggest problem is how it and psychology are getting more and more geared towards making people ignore (or be "mindful" of) the realities of hellworld and capitalism so they can keep the system running until it inevitably falls apart. And even that heavily depends on individual therapists. Seek help until you find one that works for you.

Yup, just keep people manning the pumps while insurance companies and millionaire lobbyists decide their fate.

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

I've been having intrusive thoughts telling me to bump myself off a lot over the past few days. Haven't managed to get that bike mechanic job after all, the shop owner called and told me he decided to give the job to one of his old buddies after he had promised it to me, NBD. Just selling a few hundred bucks worth of stuff every week on ebay, taking care of my now-cancer-survivor wife, trying not to post in CSPAM so my nerves calm down, that's a good part of my life RN. I haven't been able to make friends with anybody yet, the few times I've tried I've gotten brushed off. So yeah, feeling pretty useless and meaningless here. Trying to remind myself that "nothing matters" also means I can do whatever I want, but still not happy about that.

Josherino
Mar 24, 2021

petit choux posted:

I've been having intrusive thoughts telling me to bump myself off a lot over the past few days. Haven't managed to get that bike mechanic job after all, the shop owner called and told me he decided to give the job to one of his old buddies after he had promised it to me, NBD. Just selling a few hundred bucks worth of stuff every week on ebay, taking care of my now-cancer-survivor wife, trying not to post in CSPAM so my nerves calm down, that's a good part of my life RN. I haven't been able to make friends with anybody yet, the few times I've tried I've gotten brushed off. So yeah, feeling pretty useless and meaningless here. Trying to remind myself that "nothing matters" also means I can do whatever I want, but still not happy about that.

I can seriously relate to what you're experiencing my friend. I know how discouraging it can be to feel like you're on a roll and about to land a job, only to be brushed off or told someone else got it.

I want to give you some serious praise for being that right hand for your wife. Sometimes that role in itself is our calling - if you ever need to vent and need an ear, I'm more than happy to listen.

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Viginti Septem
Jan 9, 2021

Oculus Noctuae

Josherino posted:

I can seriously relate to what you're experiencing my friend. I know how discouraging it can be to feel like you're on a roll and about to land a job, only to be brushed off or told someone else got it.

I want to give you some serious praise for being that right hand for your wife. Sometimes that role in itself is our calling - if you ever need to vent and need an ear, I'm more than happy to listen.


Agree,

Just think about all the confidence and strength that you're building up to be able to meet the next hurdles that life throws at you. It's pretty impressive that you're already able to take this much on and keep going and I'd be curious to see how great of an outcome you have waiting for you if your perseverance to never gives up stays with you. So far, you're doing exactly what you've been asked it looks like. You're laying a foundation towards something that I'm sure will be very meaningful to you. In my experience, life never throws at you more than you can handle, we just don't always know we're capable of handling what has been thrown at us. When we emerge from the other side of the lesson that is our current obstacle we are stronger for having experienced that journey.

I have tremendous faith in you to do the right thing.

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