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FBS posted:Eichel and Laine should team up somewhere imo I agree. Domi+Korpisalo+2 1sts who says no?
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I'm not sure relying on Reinhart as a 2C is going to a winning play for Buffalo. His production is boosted due to extra PP time and a career high shooting percentage and his underlying numbers have him taking lots of chances but giving up a ton, too. He'd need an incredibly sheltered role to thrive which means either Eichel gets shutdown duties or they need to find a 3C in the Jordan Staal or Mikkael Backlund vein In spite of his lingering rib injury, Eichel was playing a complete game this season and was the best defensively he’s ever been. If that continues he could be a future Selke candidate. The third center will either be Mittelstadt or Cozens, and they’re both smallish guys. If Cozens could get some bulk he could be a Patrice Bergeron type…? They actually have a lot of good centers right now, after having a center drought for years. They definitely need at least one more top-6 like I said before. Also putting Skinner back with Eichel will boost his production again. He has been better under Granato but yeah this has been a bad season for him, for sure. Also, let me put it on the record that I think that McCabe-Jokiharju and Dahlin-Borgen is a legit defensive core with room for growth and is they can stay healthy next season they will give the team a big boost. They should still try to get another legit defensive defenseman in the off-season so they have more depth. Samuelson and Bryson have had a rough time so far but with the right partner they could improve, I think.
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May 7, 2021 15:52
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Usually Buffalo fans wait until the end of October before declaring that year is their year, the relentless optimism because of a dead cat bounce at the end of the season is messing with my perception of time.
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May 7, 2021 15:58
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I remember having a very confident Sabres fan tell me in 2014 or 2015 or so that the Sabres were going to be surpassing the Bruins and making them their whipping boy "very soon" and sometimes I think about that and chuckle a little bit.
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May 7, 2021 16:04
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Koopa Kid posted:Usually Buffalo fans wait until the end of October before declaring that year is their year, the relentless optimism because of a dead cat bounce at the end of the season is messing with my perception of time. I’m only declaring what they need to do in the off-season and that their defensive core could be legit if they re-sign McCabe. I won’t have opinions or declarations until after the off-season when we see how the draft, expansion draft and free agency went. Jamwad Hilder posted:I remember having a very confident Sabres fan tell me in 2014 or 2015 or so that the Sabres were going to be surpassing the Bruins and making them their whipping boy "very soon" and sometimes I think about that and chuckle a little bit. That was before we knew just how awful the Pegulas were.
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May 7, 2021 16:04
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I actually think the Sabres should trade Eichel. Not because of any problems with his game, I just think if you do it before he goes public with another demand you may get more value, and he's made it clear he doesn't want to sit through another rebuild attempt. Call up a team who can deal from strength.
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May 7, 2021 16:08
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I remember having a very confident Sabres fan tell me in 2014 or 2015 or so that the Sabres were going to be surpassing the Bruins and making them their whipping boy "very soon" and sometimes I think about that and chuckle a little bit. whatis toxxed that around then. rip whatis
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May 7, 2021 16:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I actually think the Sabres should trade Eichel. Not because of any problems with his game, I just think if you do it before he goes public with another demand you may get more value, and he's made it clear he doesn't want to sit through another rebuild attempt. Call up a team who can deal from strength. No he hasn’t, that’s all been conjecture. They’re not doing a total rebuild they’re like midway through a rebuild that’s stalled for years as they stay bad. They’re not in a position to blow everything up, if they did the Pegulas would get publicly executed. And they’d basically have to trade all of their assets and what would be the point? They have several players to build around right now they just need to be smart about it and they’ve just shot and missed a bunch of times in a row.
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May 7, 2021 16:12
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Koopa Kid posted:Usually Buffalo fans wait until the end of October before declaring that year is their year, the relentless optimism because of a dead cat bounce at the end of the season is messing with my perception of time.
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May 7, 2021 16:14
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Yeah I get that almost everyone wants to see Eichel move somewhere else but the odds of that happening are basically zero.
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May 7, 2021 16:24
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th3t00t posted:Go back in time and you could have been talking about Leafs fans from 2005-2015. You Leafs guys were always thinking it was finally your year to break through and you were right... eventually(at least in the regular season). Sabres fans will be right eventually too. Oh no doubt, I'll fully accept getting dunked on if the Sabres make it happen. But to your comparison, the Leafs in that span didn't come close to this bad: ThinkTank posted:The Buffalo Sabres average finish over the last 8 years is 28th. Buffalo's got a big hill to climb
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May 7, 2021 16:26
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the only solace I will get this year is watching Mike Smith eat absolute poo poo in the playoffs
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May 7, 2021 16:29
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Koopa Kid posted:Oh no doubt, I'll fully accept getting dunked on if the Sabres make it happen. But to your comparison, the Leafs in that span didn't come close to this bad: As far as my "turn the corner", I just want to see them out of the basement and scoring lots of goals. I'd be thrilled next season with a 20th place finish in the league at like 85pts and 15th in GF. My expectations are low, but we've got to start somewhere.
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May 7, 2021 16:36
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https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPell/status/1390675963990642693?s=20 Still no Ovi, he’s gonna be held till the playoffs at this point. What the hell is going on with Samsonov?
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May 7, 2021 16:43
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Cartoon Man posted:https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPell/status/1390675963990642693?s=20 https://twitter.com/SamanthaJPell/status/1390691255852617729?s=20 I guess they went out and partied a little too hard in New York. Kuznetsov is good enough where he'll probably be back in as soon as he clears protocol, which should be soon since he already got COVID earlier this year. Samsonov is going to be riding the pine until Vanecek screws up, which to be fair could be relatively soon as well.
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May 7, 2021 16:54
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Also Tom Wilson has made a miraculous recovery from his devastating upper body injury on Wednesday night and is in the lineup tonight.
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Buffalo's gonna dig themselves out of the pit and into 9th-place mediocrity just in time for the Wright and Bedard drafts.
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May 7, 2021 16:55
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Hand Knit posted:Buffalo's gonna dig themselves out of the pit and into 9th-place mediocrity just in time for the Wright and Bedard drafts.
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May 7, 2021 17:10
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mennoknight posted:the only solace I will get this year is watching Mike Smith eat absolute poo poo in the playoffs Not gonna happen! Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Buddy, check this out
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May 7, 2021 17:11
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My take on the Eichel situation: 1. Every team in the league wants an elite player like Eichel, including Buffalo. 2. Eichel has five more years on his contract, and a NMC starting in 2022. 3. The only way the Sabres captain would quit on the team and not even want to show up and play hockey is if they were so consistently terrible with no prospect for improvement that showing up to camp felt pointless, so basically where the Sabres are right now. 4. If Eichel isn't fully committed to the five remaining years on his contract, the team would have the most leverage to shop him around before the NMC kicks in and he could name his destination. 5. After a decade of missing the playoffs, missing on all but the highest draft picks, flubbing the rebuild and replacing GM Darcy Regier, hiring Pat LaFontaine as team president and having him quit after three months, bungling the rebuild and replacing GM Tim Murray, botching the rebuild and replacing GM Jason Botterill, firing their entire hockey ops staff, having the new regime appoint their seventh coach of the rebuild during a historic losing streak, and having their fanbase's rallying cry be Duane's rant on the radio... after all of that, if their franchise player publicly quits on them, it's going to be very difficult to get fans in the building, get players to sign there, or even prevent the team from falling into that mindset of the historical losing streak this year. This is a team that managed to get 302 people into the building when they reopened at 10% capacity. It all comes down to whether or not Eichel believes the Sabres can turn it around soon, which I don't think anyone in the world believes.
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May 7, 2021 17:48
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th3t00t posted:Go back in time and you could have been talking about Leafs fans from 2005-2015. You Leafs guys were always thinking it was finally your year to break through and you were right... eventually(at least in the regular season). Sabres fans will be right eventually too. I'm not going to trawl through 10 years of shitposts but I'm highly skeptical that anyone with a clue thought the Leafs were going to be anything other than perennial 9th seeds before they drafted MNM. ... although yes, there was certainly some irrational exuberance following the signing of 40-goal scorer Jason Blake, and the Phaneuf trade.
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May 7, 2021 17:49
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https://twitter.com/samanthacp_/status/1390709323471360001 Look, you can body slam a guy on his head, but damnit if you attempt to do something similarish, well George Parros is comin for you buzz.
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May 7, 2021 17:54
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eXXon posted:I'm not going to trawl through 10 years of shitposts but I'm highly skeptical that anyone with a clue thought the Leafs were going to be anything other than perennial 9th seeds before they drafted MNM. David Clarkson was the missing piece.
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Admittedly I only watched the Sabres this year while they got swept in their season series with the Caps, but Eichel looked like a defeated dude to me. I hope for his sake he bucks the pressure to be a hockey robot and advocates for himself.
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May 7, 2021 17:54
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Watching the OLD TIME HOCKEY from Wednesday night again and how did Carl Hagelin draw the short straw to get sent out to throw hands in an almost-certain opening faceoff line brawl?
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rex rabidorum vires posted:David Clarkson was the missing piece. He took the subway to games, he was a man of the people. Leaf fans will love his meat and potatos, old school game, it's built for the playoffs.
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May 7, 2021 17:59
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CBJSprague24 posted:Watching the OLD TIME HOCKEY from Wednesday night again and how did Carl Hagelin draw the short straw to get sent out to throw hands in an almost-certain opening faceoff line brawl? I think they just put their fourth lines out, I don't think anyone expected 5'9" Colin Blackwell to get his first NHL fight there.
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May 7, 2021 18:02
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Zodijackylite posted:My take on the Eichel situation: I think all of this is pretty much accurate, and that when the Pegulas finally do sell there's a serious risk it will be to someone who will want to move the team out of Buffalo.
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May 7, 2021 18:10
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I think it's important to remember that winning isn't the only consideration for players like Eichel. Obviously money comes into play too but even beyond that guys get comfortable in the city they live in and with the teammates they have. Most people don't like change. It's not an easy thing to do to go to a new team and a new city even if you know you're gonna have a way better chance at success there. And it gets even more complicated when you involve families and poo poo. So for Eichel even if he isn't confident in the Sabres' ability to build around him he might still not be inclined to change up his whole living situation and all that.
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May 7, 2021 18:18
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On the other hand NHL players have been conditioned from the first time they touched ice to be competitive as gently caress and being stuck on a poorly managed team has got to really sting. So I guess the takeaway is "it's complicated."
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May 7, 2021 18:19
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Chad Sexington posted:Admittedly I only watched the Sabres this year while they got swept in their season series with the Caps, but Eichel looked like a defeated dude to me. I hope for his sake he bucks the pressure to be a hockey robot and advocates for himself. They beat the Capitals twice!!! And he looked defeated because he was playing hurt from the beginning of the season, he broke a rib while getting ready for the season which is why he couldn’t hit the net like he did last year. But the team was stupid about it and kept it hush hush, Ralph lied about it to the media and Jack went out of his way to contradict Ralph which ruled, it was a debacle. But I don’t think he legitimately wants to leave yet. Emphasis on yet.
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xzzy posted:On the other hand NHL players have been conditioned from the first time they touched ice to be competitive as gently caress and being stuck on a poorly managed team has got to really sting. This is counterbalanced by them simultaneously being told it's a privledge to play hockey and no one is above the team. McDavid stuck with the Oilers as they cratered with him in the lineup. Lemieux stuck with the Pens through those early garbage years. Tavares was skewered for exercising his free agent rights. Players are taught to keep their heads down and not cause a fuss. If you're losing, it's your fault for not working hard enough.
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May 7, 2021 18:22
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ESPN posted:ARLINGTON, Va. -- Tom Wilson reached out to Artemi Panarin in the aftermath of the most talked about incident in hockey this week and says he is ready to move on from his latest controversy. Jesus loving christ
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eXXon posted:I'm not going to trawl through 10 years of shitposts but I'm highly skeptical that anyone with a clue thought the Leafs were going to be anything other than perennial 9th seeds before they drafted MNM. Don't forget the excitement following the Kessel trade(s). He was going to be your savior! And giving up 2 late firsts was a steal! (then the picks turned into 2nd and 9th overall)
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DJExile posted:Jesus loving christ He does realize the player he reached out to doesn't speak English, right?
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th3t00t posted:I was referring more to Leafs fans in general. SAS Leafs fans tend to be more pessimistic than your gen-pop brethren, although some on sas have had their moments as you admit. I'd like to state for the record that I was against the Kessel deal when it happened, but even I didn't think it would turn out as insanely poorly as it did. Kessel was good in his time in Toronto though, shame about everything else.
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CBJSprague24 posted:He does realize the player he reached out to doesn't speak English, right? There are translators all around the league, it wouldn't be that hard. Hell, one of his Russian teammates could have helped him say something. The real problem is this: quote:With five suspensions on his record, including seven games in March for boarding the Boston Bruins' Brandon Carlo, Wilson knows Parros and NHL player safety well. He has previously watched film with Parros to better figure out how to play on the edge without crossing the line and doesn't believe Monday's events were out of the ordinary.
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May 7, 2021 18:39
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FBS posted:did we already know about the Parros/Wilson How is that not a conflict of interest? It’s like the FBI telling you how to rob a bank legally. People in charge of enforcing the rules should not be mentoring the people they are supposed to discipline.
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