Fuschia tude posted:I mean, that's pretty much the same thing, just one step removed. is it? i think they say very different things about jake's opinion of rachel, and his own state of mind. if he's asking for her because he thinks she's the most likely to kill anyone, that's very different from asking for her because he thinks she's the most likely to kill someone who killed tobias. if david killed marco's dad while marco isn't home, does jake send ax to get rachel still? or does he send him to get marco?
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# ? May 7, 2021 13:33 |
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“That weasel! That slimy nyeeerrrrrff.” My tongue had shrunk rapidly in the middle of telling Ax what I thought about David. Probably for the best. Ax would have asked me to define the word I was about to use, and that wouldn’t have been a good idea. Man I can't believe she was about to use the n-word
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# ? May 7, 2021 17:02 |
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Terror Sweat posted:
Was thinking this, lol. Wierd.
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# ? May 7, 2021 17:18 |
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Cassie gave her the pass.
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# ? May 7, 2021 18:20 |
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...nerd?
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# ? May 7, 2021 18:23 |
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can we not
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# ? May 7, 2021 18:27 |
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nerf herder
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# ? May 7, 2021 21:07 |
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feetnotes posted:can we not Tell that to rachel
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# ? May 7, 2021 21:19 |
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"Hey Kate, it looks like you were about to have some swear words in your latest manuscript, so we just wanted to make clear, this a series for children, so no swear words, alright?" "What about the loss of a childhood innocence, the erosion of one's morals, bit by bit, until you emerge on the other side of your journey as a changed person, barely recognizable as your original self?" "Huh, that's sounds a little sexual, so again, we are targeting children hear, so no sex or curse words" "No, I mean the destructive force of violence upon your soul, the ever escalating horrors of war that slowly strip away your humanity and turn you into but a blunt weapon, unable to feel true joy or emotion! "Oh that? Yeah, that's fine, go ahead" e X fucked around with this message at 23:22 on May 7, 2021 |
# ? May 7, 2021 22:03 |
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I mean, kids cuss, and the series recognizes that. I think in an earlier book Jake mentions saying some words his parents wouldn't appreciate hearing.
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# ? May 8, 2021 00:35 |
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IIRC, this is the book where Rachel allegedly got away with a "bastard" that KAA got by the editors in the first edition, but that got removed from later editions. I didn't have a first-edition copy, so I can't confirm, but maybe Epicurius's copy is?
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:39 |
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disaster pastor posted:IIRC, this is the book where Rachel allegedly got away with a "bastard" that KAA got by the editors in the first edition, but that got removed from later editions. I didn't have a first-edition copy, so I can't confirm, but maybe Epicurius's copy is? Hey, spoilers! But yes, this is the book where Rachel says "bastard" in the first edition and then "creep" in later editions. I'll try to point it out when we get there.
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:48 |
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Sorry, I thought both that it was relevant to the conversation and that a single word wasn't giving away much!
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:54 |
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disaster pastor posted:This one is, for my money, the best of the David books. And perhaps the last great Rachel book. I quite like the giant squid one
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# ? May 8, 2021 04:08 |
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disaster pastor posted:Sorry, I thought both that it was relevant to the conversation and that a single word wasn't giving away much! I'm kidding. A spoiler would be if I revealed that Ax and Visser Three were the same person. Oops. Shouldn't have said that.
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# ? May 8, 2021 05:58 |
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Animorphs Book 22-The Solution, Chapter 3quote:<Ax. Demorph.> I felt weird telling Ax what to do. But Jake was down. Not that that meant I was the leader. But I figured someone had to be. We needed to work together. I believe she'll do it too. And excellent gymnastics by Rachel there. Chapter 4 quote:Ax came running back, just as I was climbing back onto firm ground. I was shaking. How must that feel? I mean, beyond the grief of Tobias's death and Jake's injury, knowing that Jake, your cousin, your team's leader, has you sent for because he knows that your instinct will be to murder the person who did it, and also knowing that he's right? How's that make you feel about both him and yourself?
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# ? May 8, 2021 06:07 |
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Animorphs: a kid's book series, y'know, for kids!
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# ? May 8, 2021 06:31 |
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I'm pretty sure David's whole "I would never kill a person but killing an animal isn't murder" was the first genuinely unsettling psychological leap I'd encountered as a young childe.
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# ? May 8, 2021 06:56 |
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Kinda feel like KA regretted writing the "Rachel's closest" line in the last book, to make the decision to get Rachel a Big Thing now. Like why not just have Jake simply say that last book, if that's where we're at now? Anyway, top marks for using your human gymnastic abilities to escape. Like Jake just dropping backwards as the falcon. I'm in the mindset that if morphing is your hammer then every problem looks like a nail, so it's neat to see them think outside the box.
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# ? May 8, 2021 09:35 |
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he didn't say closest, though, he said "rachel's close, we might need to do something terrible, go get her" for all we know, marco might also be the same amount of close, but he's not the one jake chose to go for.
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# ? May 8, 2021 09:37 |
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Speaking of, I can't actually remember how the rest of this night plays out, but I feel like Rachel should be sending Ax to go wake Marco up right now. Him and Cassie are both unaware of what's going on and David seems to have a dislike of Marco in particular, and for all that he said he'd kill an animal but not a person, he did just take a proper swipe at her in lion morph. If you were in David's shoes right now you'd want to try to kill as many of the Animorphs as possible tonight while you've caught them unawares; as it stands, at least two of them are alive and well and know that you're a traitor, and they have more experience and more morphs than you. Although I suppose on the other hand they also have secret identities they want to maintain and families that you can threaten - whereas David is just at large and has no ties they can use against him.
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# ? May 8, 2021 10:11 |
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I like the “closest” line, actually - it provides a little bit of ambiguity to the situation, so it’s not just 100% ‘oh Jake entirely wanted a murder so he called for me’ and adds a little ‘well, was it because I was close? Did he think I was closest? Or did he think he wanted a murder? Or did he think one but say the other?’ flavour to the ‘why ask for Rachael?’ thing.
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# ? May 8, 2021 10:43 |
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Still, unless you're a sociopath, that's a hell of a thing to wake up to. "The boss sent for you, specifically, to murder someone."
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# ? May 8, 2021 13:04 |
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Having to take on a lion is a consideration. Ax could, but aside from that, don't think either a gorrila nor a single wolf'll be enough. But a brown bear, or elephant?
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# ? May 8, 2021 15:41 |
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Epicurius posted:How must that feel? I mean, beyond the grief of Tobias's death and Jake's injury, knowing that Jake, your cousin, your team's leader, has you sent for because he knows that your instinct will be to murder the person who did it, and also knowing that he's right? How's that make you feel about both him and yourself? I don't know how I missed the Tobias-Rachel connection back then, either. That near-confession in Book 3 just went completely over my head. I guess I thought it was a little weird that apparently he stopped by her room a lot...
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# ? May 8, 2021 17:03 |
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Animorphs Book 22-The Solution, Chapter 5quote:I was bathed in light. First off, it seems like this is not going to stay off the news, and even if Visser Three doesn't regularly watch the nightly news, you figure he's going to find out. Although, who knows, since this is also a town where a wild leopard has just been running free in the woods for three books. So, who knows, maybe big cat sightings are just considered normal there. More seriously, this is another example of leadership failure. Visser Three's expectations for his subordinates are so high and his punishment for failure is so severe, it means his people are scared to give the him information he needs. quote:Ax and I continued morphing again. He to his harrier morph, me to the great horned owl again. Right. They're sort of in the opposite position now in this. They can't be secure, because any animal, even one they can't see, could be a threat. Chapter 6 quote:The sun was just thinking about coming up as we approached Marco’s house. It was already bright as day to me, of course. But I could tell the difference just the same. The black sky was becoming gray in the east. I just want to say, David's ethical system is weird.
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# ? May 9, 2021 04:39 |
It's fake lol he tried to murder human Rachel already
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# ? May 9, 2021 06:08 |
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It's a rules lawyer ethical system.
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:25 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:It's fake lol he tried to murder human Rachel already A lion can't commit murder actually
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:42 |
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In a way, you could look at murdering while morphed as in the same category of acts as committing a crime via a machine or vehicle that’s under your control, just in this case it’s biological instead of mechanical. The obvious conclusion is that David should get slapped with vehicular homicide.
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# ? May 9, 2021 10:46 |
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Tunzie posted:The obvious conclusion is that David should get slapped with vehicular homicide.
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# ? May 9, 2021 12:19 |
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"Hmm yes I did tie a woman to those railroad tracks but she slapped me after I made a rude comment so its self defence" - Old West David
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# ? May 9, 2021 15:11 |
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Pwnstar posted:"Hmm yes I did tie a woman to those railroad tracks but she slapped me after I made a rude comment so its self defence" - Old West David "Besides, I would never kill a woman. You'll notice she was actually killed by the train."
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# ? May 9, 2021 16:49 |
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Crespolini posted:A lion can't commit murder actually Are you sure? An elephant can. Watch out, Rachel
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# ? May 9, 2021 19:44 |
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Animorphs Book 22-The Solution, Chapter 7quote:I flew at top speed. But David was faster. His huge wings plowed through the air. Tobias got better! Chapter 8 quote:Tobias was alive. David, everybody!
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# ? May 10, 2021 03:46 |
I really enjoyed Rachel immediately no-selling his I NEVER WANTED ANY OF THIS act.
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# ? May 10, 2021 04:25 |
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why didn't Marco just morph cockroach or something while tied up
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# ? May 10, 2021 04:34 |
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Also, I'm pretty sure David has figured out that the red tailed hawk that saved Rachel was probably Tobias, I'm not sure why they think that's a secret.
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# ? May 10, 2021 04:46 |
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WrightOfWay posted:Also, I'm pretty sure David has figured out that the red tailed hawk that saved Rachel was probably Tobias, I'm not sure why they think that's a secret. He got hit out of nowhere in the back of the head, he probably legitimately never saw what hit him and decided to bail immediately. 'Cuz, you know, coward.
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# ? May 10, 2021 04:59 |
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Mazerunner posted:why didn't Marco just morph cockroach or something while tied up Yeah I wondered this immediately.
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# ? May 10, 2021 05:44 |