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Honey Im Homme
Sep 3, 2009

Were the 9 replays necessary? Whew :barf:

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Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

LobsterMobster posted:

Turns out an armbar works

ayooooooooooo

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

If you missed the event, you can skip every main card bout except for the first and the last

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
you need to at least see the barboza ko because i've never seen anything like it.

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

I just watched it and good lord, it looked like he deflated like a balloon. It wasn't as comical as Rolles Gracie doing the Ric Flair flop but that might be the most delayed KO I've ever seen

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

is there a gif of the Barboza ko?

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

Alaois posted:

is there a gif of the Barboza ko?

https://streamable.com/atmcsb

mewse
May 2, 2006


That's really odd. It kinda looks like a dive but maybe he just slowly lost his balance :shrug:

e: Oh.. Burgo's right leg was hosed up from Barboza's kicks right? That explains it

mewse fucked around with this message at 06:08 on May 16, 2021

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


mewse posted:

That's really odd. It kinda looks like a dive but maybe he just slowly lost his balance :shrug:

I looks like he had a stroke

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012


lmao damndest thing i ever saw

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012




you're already dead *kenshiro voice*

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004


Thanks for this - something I noticed this time if you watch his booty/back as his center of gravity is shifting & he's trying to compensate for his balance being hosed up as soon as it happens and is leaning back further and further he realizes he doesn't have any control until it just completely goes. That had to be a really scary moment for him.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Fist of the North Star poo poo. Incredible.

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?


holy poo poo. it looks like what happens after a college freshman tries to do that bong rip/beer chug/shot of liquor thing while holding their breath or whatever

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer

LobsterMobster posted:

Turns out an armbar works
lmao

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Chandler was extremely well-spoken and humble in the post fight presser. Gave lots of respect to Charles.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I think the UFC should probably start promoting fighters at least somewhat equally instead of going hard on one dude and praying he doesn't get sparked. Oliveira deserved the win etc, but he also deserved a lot more focus and respect leading in.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I think the UFC should probably start promoting fighters at least somewhat equally instead of going hard on one dude and praying he doesn't get sparked. Oliveira deserved the win etc, but he also deserved a lot more focus and respect leading in.

Not all the time, but sometimes UFC promotion feels like something WWE would do but they can't pick the winners. Ronda vs Nunes comes to mind.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
Yeeeesh the audio of Jacare's arm was :stare:

I love that Barboza is still one of the scariest fighters around.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Josuke Higashikata posted:

I think the UFC should probably start promoting fighters at least somewhat equally instead of going hard on one dude and praying he doesn't get sparked. Oliveira deserved the win etc, but he also deserved a lot more focus and respect leading in.

Oliveira's a guy who's current form and streak just missed my radar. I knew he was good but I hadn't anticipated him becoming as good as he clearly is now. He's genuinely a remarkable fighter even purely from a statistical standpoint. He's got the most submissions, obviously, but he actually broke that record a little while ago and has gotten more since. He's also got the most finishes in UFC history, eleven performance of the night awards, got the second most post fight bonuses, most fights between his UFC debut and first title fight, widest variety of subs and so on and so forth. He's also just cool as gently caress to watch. He's absolutely the sort of fighter that a decent promotional effort should have been behind.

TheKingslayer posted:

Not all the time, but sometimes UFC promotion feels like something WWE would do but they can't pick the winners. Ronda vs Nunes comes to mind.

Which is interesting, since for her Carmouche and Holm fights, they absolutely hedged their bets and put a decent amount of promotion behind both Rousey's opponents.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I always figured that since Ronda didn't want to do media they just didn't bother with Amanda. This is all just my own speculation but they were trying to lure Ronda back and maybe UFC figured Ronda might see it as a slight if Amanda still got the same promotion time.

nordichammer
Oct 11, 2013

LobsterMobster posted:

Turns out an armbar works

Lmfao

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

The doctor who does mma videos posted a vid. And he posted one on Jacare's injury as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNCfXhJtaU

Really enjoy his videos.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

TheKingslayer posted:

I always figured that since Ronda didn't want to do media they just didn't bother with Amanda. This is all just my own speculation but they were trying to lure Ronda back and maybe UFC figured Ronda might see it as a slight if Amanda still got the same promotion time.

Agree. They wanted to push Ronda primarily. Nunes wasn’t even considered to be an interesting promo on the mic, never mind capable of starching their golden girl.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Digital Jedi posted:

The doctor who does mma videos posted a vid. And he posted one on Jacare's injury as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNCfXhJtaU

Really enjoy his videos.

That one is really interesting

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
that fight was a roller coaster. when chandler was battering him on the ground i was dying inside.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

There's something awesomely cinematic about a guy that's been grinding away for so long getting in there with a fighter pretty much handed a title shot, making the huge comeback and getting the gold. Just satisfying stuff.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
yeah it was a lot of good things coming together at once. watching someone gradually improve for so many fights, getting owned a bunch of times on the way to a title and never having a boring fight doing it, was good. dana's hand picked white american guy getting smashed by a brazilian who doesn't know english was also pretty good.

double negative
Jul 7, 2003


TheKingslayer posted:

There's something awesomely cinematic about a guy that's been grinding away for so long getting in there with a fighter pretty much handed a title shot, making the huge comeback and getting the gold. Just satisfying stuff.

on top of him derailing dana’s chosen hype train, it was especially satisfying because oliveira was labeled, even by chandler, as someone who crumbled when faced with adversity, and he got to refute that in the most spectacular way and at the most pivotal moment in his career

also he was just so drat happy. i loved it

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Another thing is that apparently nobody knew what his nickname meant until he was in a title fight.

Do Bronx joins the pantheon of coolest fighters with Poirier, Holloway, and TKZ.

Stealth Tiger
Nov 14, 2009

Do we know if Tony suffered an injury in that heel hook?

TheReverend
Jun 21, 2005

Stealth Tiger posted:

Do we know if Tony suffered an injury in that heel hook?

Also came to this thread to find out.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Bellator now has an argument for best 205 and 155 champ.

reeg
Jul 5, 2002

Oliveira best pray that Conor wins because I can see a world where Do Bronx beats Conor or Gaethje but I can picture nothing but Poirier absolutely whomping him

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

i don't really get that logic, poirier is like mr technically good conservative striking and oliveira does incredibly well in that sort of fight, while this fight showed that he probably has some weaknesses to powerful imprecise blitzing, of the three of those I'd imagine gaethje to be the scarier of the three with conor probably in second because he can probably still land a one punch KO type dealio

reeg
Jul 5, 2002

brian posted:

i don't really get that logic, poirier is like mr technically good conservative striking and oliveira does incredibly well in that sort of fight, while this fight showed that he probably has some weaknesses to powerful imprecise blitzing, of the three of those I'd imagine gaethje to be the scarier of the three with conor probably in second because he can probably still land a one punch KO type dealio

I think Oliveira was able to beat Chandler because he got overconfident and overextended, which was not an uncommon thing for Chandler to do

I don't see evidence of Oliveira doing incredibly well against technical strikers (see Oliveira vs. Holloway, or Cowboy, or Felder, or Frankie, or Pettis). Poirier would piece him up on the feet and has excellent control of distance and really good BJJ

Gaethje is stationary enough to be clinched up, where Oliveira has found success in the past (he'd have to eat some leg kicks to get in) and Conor has certainly displayed some issues with grapplers in the past

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY
Yeah, I love me some Do Bronx, but nothing about that fight made me confident he’ll do well against the rest of the top guys. Chandler was in inches away from finishing him twice in the first, and all of the top guys are super prepared for bjj specialists.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Stealth Tiger posted:

Do we know if Tony suffered an injury in that heel hook?

Dariush says he heard Tony's leg pop so probably/very possibly.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
why do you think chandler got overconfident? imo he was most successful when he was confidently covering huge ground charging in changing stances with his chin in the air while the finish came when he backed off and settled into an exchange that oliveira won with a really nice left hook. i think poirier has a better chance against him if he does the first one.

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TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Foul Fowl posted:

why do you think chandler got overconfident? imo he was most successful when he was confidently covering huge ground charging in changing stances with his chin in the air while the finish came when he backed off and settled into an exchange that oliveira won with a really nice left hook. i think poirier has a better chance against him if he does the first one.

I've got a buzz and I'll guess. He survived Oliveira having his back and hurt him. Spent the rest of the round doing damage. Probably figured Oliveira didn't have the heart to rally and paid for it. Chandler said in every interview I saw that Oliveira would wilt when he felt his power and maybe he believed that.

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