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slidebite posted:Just read some of the BaT As if it ever gets driven after dark or anything gets carried in the back.
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Solar Coaster posted:Speaking of C4's for sale right now.... I loved that car when it came out. It's still badass when it works, even though it's been long surpassed.
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I can't help but see it as an American attempt at a Ferrari F40.
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May 21, 2021 02:09
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Midjack posted:As if it ever gets driven. ftfy
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May 21, 2021 02:30
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The 90's awesomeness, for so cheap.
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May 21, 2021 03:25
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slidebite posted:Just read some of the BaT For listing purposes...Just needs a headlight motor for $50 then it will run but haven't gotten to it yet.
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I forgot these things existed: Chevrolet SSR 2004, 20,000 Kms $31,995 Rare find and only 20,000 kilometers!! Retractable hard top convertible Super Sport Roadster equipped with heated leather seats, power seat, digital air, cruise, power group, hard bed cover, 19 inch alloy wheels in the front, 20 inch alloy wheels in the back, and upgraded exhaust. Very rare and collectable vehicle! Sorry we cannot offer financing on this unti.
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May 21, 2021 18:04
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Nebakenezzer posted:Sorry we cannot offer financing on this unti.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I forgot these things existed: Friend of mine had one of these things years ago in purple. They're ugly as sin, but actually pretty fast and handle decently well. A fun car to drive, but not fun to look at.
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chrisgt posted:but actually pretty fast and handle decently well. Chris, if that statement wasn't coming from you I'd have some questions about "compared to what" but instead I'm just going to remain confused as to how it's possible.
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Motronic posted:Chris, if that statement wasn't coming from you I'd have some questions about "compared to what" but instead I'm just going to remain confused as to how it's possible. At the time I drove lifted subarus, so the bar was really low...
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Motronic posted:Chris, if that statement wasn't coming from you I'd have some questions about "compared to what" but instead I'm just going to remain confused as to how it's possible.
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Cage posted:400hp in a 4700 pound car is still pretty fast. Mid 5 0-60. Yeah not "fast" compared to some cars but like he said still pretty fast. Fast was not my contention. Fast is easy (when you define that as power to weight ratio). Handling (and braking) is a completely different issue. That's what makes actual fast.
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Motronic posted:Fast was not my contention. Fast is easy (when you define that as power to weight ratio). Handling (and braking) is a completely different issue. That's what makes actual fast. 
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May 22, 2021 03:11
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Cage posted:My mistake you quoted him about being fast too. Oh no, I was just being sloppy. You know I'm coming from a standpoint of super fun to drive low horse power stuff like 944s and Miatas or my "work truck" 520 HP twin turbo cayenne. Which on a good day might be worth the $4k the 944 is also worth. (in this market who knows though)
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Gentlemen, I looked up the wiki on the SSR, and the '03 and '04 SSRs used the 5.3L vortec V8, 300 hp. The 2005 used the LS2 (390 hp), standard became an option, and the last year of them used a LS2 with 400 hp.
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May 22, 2021 15:58
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So its fast and ugly.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Gentlemen, I looked up the wiki on the SSR, and the '03 and '04 SSRs used the 5.3L vortec V8, 300 hp. The 2005 used the LS2 (390 hp), standard became an option, and the last year of them used a LS2 with 400 hp. While circling the drain somebody up high yelled "LS in everything!" Not even that was enough.
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AmbassadorofSodomy posted:So its fast and ugly.
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GM also figured that the SSR owners would be Harley riders and might want to tow a motorcycle with it. The manuals got upgraded T56s, particularly massive output shafts and 1 piece countershafts.
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I’ll come out and say it: I like the way they look. I love the idea of a convertible hard top pickup. The biggest reason I never bought one was the GM interior.
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Advent Horizon posted:I’ll come out and say it: I like the way they look. I love the idea of a convertible hard top pickup.  I like that they also kept true to form and made it into the vehicle it should have been at launch, the same model year they axed it. They’re so loving predictably horrible.
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MrYenko posted:
That could be a good game. Name a vehicle gm got just right and then promptly killed it. I can think of a couple off the top of my head but I'll only name one. 1988 Fiero
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May 22, 2021 23:07
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But every cars last version year is the best one. The assembly workers get better dealing with debilitating hangovers after 6 or 7 years.
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slidebite posted:That could be a good game. Name a vehicle gm got just right and then promptly killed it. I can think of a couple off the top of my head but I'll only name one. 1996 Impala SS
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Nebakenezzer posted:1996 Impala SS That’s not really fair; the B-Body was decent for a very long time. It was absolutely not a case of ‘they knew how to do it right but didn’t’. My top choice is the 1965/6 Corvair, which was only kept around longer out of spite for Ralph Nader. 2008/9 H3 & H3T are another choice, with finally getting the 5.3. 2005/6 Saab 9-2x was a pretty sweet car. I have a friend who bought one new for $17,000 because of all the GM discounting.
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Advent Horizon posted:That’s not really fair; the B-Body was decent for a very long time. It was absolutely not a case of ‘they knew how to do it right but didn’t’. God I wish I’d have been in a position to buy a saaburu back then, so fuckin nice with the Subaru mechanicals and Saab interior/comforts
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May 23, 2021 02:30
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Eh looks just like an Impreza inside to me.
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slidebite posted:That could be a good game. Name a vehicle gm got just right and then promptly killed it. I can think of a couple off the top of my head but I'll only name one. Saab 9-5 wagon.
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dissss posted:Eh looks just like an Impreza inside to me. Because it is. I had one and the dash and interior were identical. Maybe there's more sound deadening but it's still not a super refined car really.
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Advent Horizon posted:That’s not really fair; the B-Body was decent for a very long time. It was absolutely not a case of ‘they knew how to do it right but didn’t’. While true, the ‘96 did have a couple changes that made it notably different from the previous years, including a proper console and moving the shifter off the steering column to the console. Tantalizingly, I’ve heard the rumor multiple times from different sources that engineering work was already mostly complete on Gen III V8s (not that there’d be much) for the whole line, including LS1 for the Impala SS and 9C1, when GM pulled the plug on the entire platform. Maybe the one time when GM didn’t give something enough time to really mature before shooting it in the head. 
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Is the GNX too obvious? I believe it was for 1 year only, although I suspect it was by design whereas I'm not so sure if the others were being planned only for 1 year when being designed.
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GNX was also a post-production conversion, not a factory trim. They did only build the intercooled GN/T-Types in ‘86 and ‘87 though, which almost counts.
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Advent Horizon posted:That’s not really fair; the B-Body was decent for a very long time. It was absolutely not a case of ‘they knew how to do it right but didn’t’. Quite possibly fair. Just to defend it as a pick, was the Impala SS the only one with all disc brakes and the LT1? Wait, and the Buick Roadmaster lol
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How does one rank the Typhoon/Syclone? They never really made much improvements over its short life did they?
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Nebakenezzer posted:Quite possibly fair. Just to defend it as a pick, was the Impala SS the only one with all disc brakes and the LT1? They all had the LT1 IIRC, same with the Caddy Fleetwood, but that was a D Body. Big thing with the Impala was the *~leather~* interior and the floor shifter/console. Oh, and super cool vinyl scripts on the rear quarters.
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ViolentQuiche posted:They all had the LT1 IIRC, same with the Caddy Fleetwood, but that was a D Body. Big thing with the Impala was the *~leather~* interior and the floor shifter/console. Oh, and super cool vinyl scripts on the rear quarters. There was a 4.3L Gen II V-8; The L99. (Impala and I think the wagon Roadmasters all got the LT1 though. I don’t know if LT1 was standard on Roadmaster sedans or not.) I’m also suprised that the B-body LT1 was still called that, since it had a different (iron) heads and a different cam compared to the Corvette and F-Body LT1s. The block on B-body engines was the same casting as the others, but only had two-bolt main caps instead of the four bolt mains in the sports cars. (Most of the F-bodies had 2 bolt mains as well, but 4 bolt main engines were pretty common, I suspect whenever they had extra Corvette engines, particularly towards the end of LT1 production.)
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MrYenko posted:There was a 4.3L Gen II V-8; The L99. Coworker has a 95 RM sedan...it's got the original non-LT1 SBC in it. Not sure the model.
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