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CJacobs posted:Yeah and the coolness comes from the fact that he is surely still scared out of his drat mind, something you're reminded of with each yell of fight, instead of it just being another standard hero's journey steam roller of building confidence. Why would Ethan be scared out of his mind? He's armed to the teeth, been through worse before, is literally immortal and we know this since the beginning section of RE7, and they stole his bayby. Your character gasping and grunting and acting scared in cutscenes when the context and gameplay is the opposite. I'm not sure if you're joking with that unique approach thing because all horror games cca 2010 - 2016 had you playe as a scared protag that pushes through. Only they didn't give you landmines and pipe bombs.
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Ethan isn’t immortal, games got plenty of gruesome game overs in it. He can totally be killed.
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I don't really think it is hypocritical in that way, though. You're toting around an arsenal which even frequently upgrades in lethality yes, but in between exploding things with that arsenal your dude has to sit on a stump and think about what the gently caress he just did, cool and violent and scarring though it was all at the same time. Horror games, even the ones you mention from that era all about connecting the player to the pulse of the protag, skip that part because well writing ethos is hard. Well RE8 didn't skip it and imo they did a great job. I agree with the post above about the plot's gaps and shortcomings in any case.
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He also taunts some of the bosses he kills. The man is not all fear, hes just a dad trying to enjoy a vacation with his family to Europes worst resort
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Barudak posted:He also taunts some of the bosses he kills. The man is not all fear, hes just a dad trying to enjoy a vacation with his family to Europes worst resort Yeah but in the absolute worst way. It's a step up from just saying "No, no, you're a stupid idiot. " And it's great. Dude couldn't pull a witty one liner if he got a book 100 Witty One Liners in Life Threatening Situations Where Your Daughter Has Been Kidnapped for Christmas. But he's so earnest in trying to sound like a badass.
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Ethan being dumb as hell is 100% diagetic.
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"Huh... stupid witch"
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Morpheus posted:Yeah but in the absolute worst way. It's a step up from just saying "No, no, you're a stupid idiot. " And it's great. Dude couldn't pull a witty one liner if he got a book 100 Witty One Liners in Life Threatening Situations Where Your Daughter Has Been Kidnapped for Christmas. But he's so earnest in trying to sound like a badass. " Your right hand comes off?"
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RE8 succeeds at doing what it set out to do with flying colors. Of course what it set out to do was chase half a decade old trends without understanding them, betting on that the next gen graphics will sell the haunted house ride to a wider audience.
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bony tony posted:" Your right hand comes off?" The line is “You’re right hand comes off?”  I firmly believe that Leon somehow spoke the wrong homonym of the word.
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Dr Christmas posted:One of Starcraft 2’s coop maps has a strict time limit with a character who would yell at you as your approached it. You push up that limit by collecting parts from around the map. So you’d repeatedly hit that warning threshold and get yelled at constantly. "STOP GOING THAT WAY! THERE'S A ZERG BASE IN THAT DIRECTION, IDIOT!" Well, yeah! Why are you bitching at me for having fun wiping out the enemy, game?
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Ethan is an idiot, but he's mostly a lovable idiot. It's Chris who's the supreme idiot here "I didn't want to tell you the plan because I knew you'd get involved" Motherfucker, you burst into my house and, as far as I know, murdered my wife in front of me for no reason, you think I'm just going to "stay out of it"? And then you meet him again at the reservoir, after slaughtering a few dozen villagers and half of the Lords, and he still just tells you to stay out of it? I mean he at least acknowledges that that was stupid later on, but COME ON
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Retro Futurist posted:Ethan is an idiot, but he's mostly a lovable idiot. It's Chris who's the supreme idiot here He still remembers when Wesker tried to explain something to him, and he bullied him to tears. He's terrified of being on the other end of that conversation.
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Resident Evil Village Previous player of REmakes 1-3 and 7. Never beat 4.
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Retro Futurist posted:Ethan is an idiot, but he's mostly a lovable idiot. It's Chris who's the supreme idiot here Did Rebecca and Barry retire or something? Surely there's someone left who they can deploy that also understands how human people function too.
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RareAcumen posted:Did Rebecca and Barry retire or something? Surely there's someone left who they can deploy that also understands how human people function too. Time for Billy loving Coen to finally make his comeback
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RareAcumen posted:Did Rebecca and Barry retire or something? Surely there's someone left who they can deploy that also understands how human people function too. There's like 8 different organizations who deal with BOWs and they all wind up going corrupt and have their leadership mutate so everyone gets bounced around
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I thought RE8 was pretty fun but I do agree that the story was really weak at points. I really hated the big reveal of 'You were dead this entire time idiot, didn't you see our amazing foreshadowing of *checks notes* allowing you to heal in a video game?' Maybe I missed some other foreshadowing but even when you're getting chomped on by the vampire lady and daughters they don't mention anything being off. I also thought Ethan was an incredibly boring character, but one of my friends is talking him up like he's the best protagonist he's played with in years. I totally don't see it, but power to him.
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moosecow333 posted:Maybe I missed[...] Yes, you did. Lady D takes a sip of Ethan's blood and literally says "hmm, starting to go a little stale." Some of that healing is also super ridiculous. He quickly recovers from having hooks in his hands and legs. And then a bit later he puts his hand back, not even needing to have it stapled on like RE7. Mierenneuker has a new favorite as of 21:30 on May 20, 2021 |
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They shouldn't have made this optional https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozWvwI-ehls
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Nice to know Capcom are continuing the tradition of Chris Redfield being just awful whenever he's in a Resi game.
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Don't really agree with any of this but I do like the deluxe edition art, which is a fairly minimalist shot of some raven wings coming into the frame.
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Nobody really agrees with Chris Redfield but he gets the job done
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Rebecca realised she was better at puzzles than shooting and aparently retired to do vaccine research at some university. I appreciate Ethan Winters being a perennially clowned-on actual everyman - slightly out of his depth and pushing forward on a mix of terrified piss, fake bravado, and drugs. Though honestly the amount of punishment he takes borders on the fetishistic; it takes up so much time it doesn't leave mush room for anything else.
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Lunar Suite posted:I appreciate Ethan Winters being a perennially clowned-on actual everyman - slightly out of his depth and pushing forward on a mix of terrified piss, fake bravado, and drugs. Though honestly the amount of punishment he takes borders on the fetishistic; it takes up so much time it doesn't leave mush room for anything else. 
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I always forget how hard Starcraft 2 did Selendis dirty. In Wings of Liberty, she's a big, imposing, badass protoss who's very alien and inhuman, and takes to battle in a super-carrier. In Legacy of the Void, her model got redone to make her a half-naked purple human and she spends the entire campaign as a damsel in distress who's the voice of the villain because she got corrupted.
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Lunar Suite posted:Rebecca realised she was better at puzzles than shooting and aparently retired to do vaccine research at some university. It's wild how much torture is inflicted upon him. Like, in the area after the castle, there are enemies that, when attacking, just repeatedly stab through his hands and arms for their animation and it's just like jesus christ
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Hey RareAcumen, spoiler that poo poo and mark it Not Safe For Life. I was eating while reading this thread and I nearly puked. Have a little common sense, for gently caress's sake...
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Lunar Suite posted:Rebecca realised she was better at puzzles than shooting and aparently retired to do vaccine research at some university. You fucker.
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Morpheus posted:It's wild how much torture is inflicted upon him. Like, in the area after the castle, there are enemies that, when attacking, just repeatedly stab through his hands and arms for their animation and it's just like jesus christ Eh, not that similar to Jesus Christ. He had nails in his hands and feet and spear to his side, yeah, but it was only the one time
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Cythereal posted:I always forget how hard Starcraft 2 did Selendis dirty. In Wings of Liberty, she's a big, imposing, badass protoss who's very alien and inhuman, and takes to battle in a super-carrier. blizzard.txt
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Has there been a blizzard game that doesn’t revolve around the plot of *someone gets corrupted by evil and then does evil things* I swear the writers must have a fetish or something for how often it comes up.
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moosecow333 posted:Has there been a blizzard game that doesn’t revolve around the plot of *someone gets corrupted by evil and then does evil things*
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Vic posted:Rock and Roll Racing That's only because they ran out of cartridge space and couldn't fit in the betrayal storyline
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moosecow333 posted:Has there been a blizzard game that doesn’t revolve around the plot of *someone gets corrupted by evil and then does evil things* "power corrupts" is a lot more interesting when not taken literally
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There's a lot of interesting subtext in The Lost Vikings re: Baelog being the only one with a sword.
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