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my friend just did this- fastest beast win ever https://streamable.com/h3evrc PIZZA.BAT fucked around with this message at 22:59 on May 27, 2021 |
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Do you guys think I should try to unlock the Repentance stuff (i.e hammer Hush 2 more times), or keep unlocking afterbirth era stuff?
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May 27, 2021 21:56
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Sharkitten posted:Do you guys think I should try to unlock the Repentance stuff (i.e hammer Hush 2 more times), or keep unlocking afterbirth era stuff? Absolutely unlock the repentance stuff and do the alt path at least once to unlock all the new floors and a single tainted character of your choice.
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May 27, 2021 23:01
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Sharkitten posted:Do you guys think I should try to unlock the Repentance stuff (i.e hammer Hush 2 more times), or keep unlocking afterbirth era stuff? Repentance is a lot more fun than afterbirth
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May 27, 2021 23:53
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PIZZA.BAT posted:my friend just did this- fastest beast win ever alright serious question does anyone have an explanation for what's happening here? even if that sprinkler is putting out *insane* amounts of damage, which it probably isn't, it would still take a couple of seconds to kill the beast. there's definitely some sort of bug happening here where the glommed tears are collecting at the borders or something and not expiring or..... something. idk
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May 28, 2021 03:22
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PIZZA.BAT posted:alright serious question does anyone have an explanation for what's happening here? even if that sprinkler is putting out *insane* amounts of damage, which it probably isn't, it would still take a couple of seconds to kill the beast. there's definitely some sort of bug happening here where the glommed tears are collecting at the borders or something and not expiring or..... something. idk I... genuinely have no idea! I tried recreating this exact build to see what was going on and uh, it created more questions than answers.  For some reason this caused the horseman after Famine to take large amounts of damage where they instantly died.  By the time the Beast spawned, it instantly took a few instances of over 1 million damage each and died!
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May 28, 2021 04:15
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I used The Fool? card for the first time. It killed me. Wtf?
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PIZZA.BAT posted:alright serious question does anyone have an explanation for what's happening here? even if that sprinkler is putting out *insane* amounts of damage, which it probably isn't, it would still take a couple of seconds to kill the beast. there's definitely some sort of bug happening here where the glommed tears are collecting at the borders or something and not expiring or..... something. idk Okay I nailed it down. It's a bug specifically with Lachryphagy. For some reason those tears don't get cleared properly when going off screen in crawlspace physics areas, and the game freaks out and applies the damage from all existing Lachryphagy tears to any horseman that's unfortunate enough to enter the battle, and eventually the beast. This only works if you're spamming a lot of Lachryphagy tears, which basically requires and extremely high fire rate. If you aren't spamming those tears enough they despawn like normal. But when you're doing say, Loki's Horns + Rock Bottom + Kidney Stone, the game can't keep up with deleting the tears so they stay around long enough to instagib everything that enters the screen. But as you've seen, you don't need a high fire rate, just a way to spam tears. Sprinkler + Loki's Horns is a way to accomplish that. GuavaMoment posted:I used The Fool? card for the first time. It killed me. Wtf? Did you have the tarot cloth effect? If so there might have been an item keeping you alive that didn't exist anymore when you used it.
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May 28, 2021 04:23
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The fool? card will kill you if you have empty red containers and soul hearts, because it was not tested very carefully I guess? If you have only soul hearts or any amount of filled red containers it'll work correctly, but red containers that have no red hearts in them and soul hearts just dumps all your soul hearts on the floor and then you die.
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May 28, 2021 04:49
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Einwand posted:The fool? card will kill you if you have empty red containers and soul hearts, because it was not tested very carefully I guess? If you have only soul hearts or any amount of filled red containers it'll work correctly, but red containers that have no red hearts in them and soul hearts just dumps all your soul hearts on the floor and then you die. Ah, it was this. I even had an eternal heart that didn't matter, thanks.
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May 28, 2021 05:06
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 Killed each other which is the biggest bummer 
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May 28, 2021 07:50
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I had noticed lacryphagy seemed to be doing insane damage in repentance for some reason.
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May 28, 2021 12:38
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it was buffed yeah
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2497997248&insideModal=0&requirelogin=1 ...huh, never even thought about that. why is it red? 
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May 28, 2021 16:08
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 The nameless TMTRAINER challenge is a pain in the rear end. I don't think any of the randomly generated items give simple stat boosts, and you miss those when you don't have them. Different topic, Needles would be less of a pain in the rear end if you got a brief period to do damage to them when they retreat underground, like every other goddamn burrowing enemy in this poo poo of piece game.
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May 28, 2021 16:13
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Tbh it ticked me off too. I just had no way of knowing when I'd ever be done with it. I eventually found an active item with no cooldown that made flies and I'm guessing most wins end similarly.
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May 28, 2021 16:18
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 Ugh, eat poo poo you awful, awful characters. Got my last mark (Hush) done with a fun new combo: membership card and pyro! Now that the donation machine is always there, you can spike your power like crazy by committing to pulling 150 cents out of the donation machine. Also got random Lacharypayr or however you spell it and Sacred Heart. Pretty much if you just beat your head against this game long enough, it will provide. So glad I never have to play this character again. Now to take a big swig of coffee and launch a Tainted Jacob game.
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May 28, 2021 17:33
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https://twitter.com/htedum/status/1398307519437574144
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May 28, 2021 17:57
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hell yes
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May 28, 2021 18:01
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 1 floor into my first run of Tainted Eve, this character is very silly lol. very nice
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May 28, 2021 21:45
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Can you not do the alt path on a victory run?
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May 28, 2021 22:58
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My eyes always hurt after doing a beast fight. Idk why this is, I think it's the red tint and my monitor.Augus posted:
Yeah she rules, just keep stacking blood Pikmin and go nuts
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May 29, 2021 00:16
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Well, it happened. I got the god run where absolutely nothing could stand against me. Boss Rush, Hush, Delirium, Lamb, all destroyed. Shame I couldn't get to Mega Satan, but hey. I unlocked the Repentence stuff! A good day.
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May 29, 2021 00:36
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The new stages are cool and Ridiculon's music for all the new floors is much much better than crap like the Womb song he was doing before also I wish Siren were playable 
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Sharkitten posted:The new stages are cool and Ridiculon's music for all the new floors is much much better than crap like the Womb song he was doing before I think my least favorite overall of theirs is Catacombs. My god it's just racket!! I feel like they've gotten way better though.
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May 29, 2021 03:21
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Ridiculon music all seems to be either 2/10 noisy trash or 8/10 bangers but I don't care since I'll be using all Danny B and Mudeth music with Ridiculon patching up what's left like go ahead and pick a Womb theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d1ZSb1NLHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P95cRdAEqRU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGWkTYMdt8Y
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May 29, 2021 03:34
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Araxxor posted:Okay I nailed it down. It's a bug specifically with Lachryphagy. For some reason those tears don't get cleared properly when going off screen in crawlspace physics areas, and the game freaks out and applies the damage from all existing Lachryphagy tears to any horseman that's unfortunate enough to enter the battle, and eventually the beast. Hmm I had a similarly weird thing happen with Tainted Isaac holding Lachryphagy/Cricket's Body/Jacob's Ladder happen on Mega Satan today, which is a normal "room" as far as I know. I was doing decent damage chipping him down and all of a sudden he just got WIPED out. Literally transitioned into his skeleton form and then immediately died afterwards before he could even do an attack
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Lachryphagy has become an instant-take for me
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Is there anything you can do to prevent Delirium from teleporting on top of you? It feels very unfair.
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RatHat posted:Is there anything you can do to prevent Delirium from teleporting on top of you? It feels very unfair. No. He's an unfinished mess of a boss. You just have to be lucky enough to have a monster build or reliable invincibility.
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Sharkitten posted:The new stages are cool and Ridiculon's music for all the new floors is much much better than crap like the Womb song he was doing before River of Despair is a really good level track and probably one of my favorite stage themes in the game now. (The Dross track on the other hand I'm just kind of meh on.) Fault Lines is also really good. Their Mausoleum track is decent enough but Antibirth's Machine in the Walls easily beats that out for me. There's just no contest. goferchan posted:Hmm I had a similarly weird thing happen with Tainted Isaac holding Lachryphagy/Cricket's Body/Jacob's Ladder happen on Mega Satan today, which is a normal "room" as far as I know. I was doing decent damage chipping him down and all of a sudden he just got WIPED out. Literally transitioned into his skeleton form and then immediately died afterwards before he could even do an attack Huh yeah. I remember taking it at one point and I wasn't on the Beast path and my DPS soared through the roof all of a sudden. Probably another thing related to that bug. If it applies to more situations then it's definitely a top take. Sadly I don't remember the build on that run so I can't really recreate it. I can try looking into that interaction you posted though. Black August posted:Ridiculon music all seems to be either 2/10 noisy trash or 8/10 bangers I was listening to some of the Antibirth songs since I haven't really heard that soundtrack and the Isaac battle song is really good goddamn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikccVCWIMzI ...Though I have no idea how often you'll be really hearing it cause on great runs he'll just get annihilated. RatHat posted:Is there anything you can do to prevent Delirium from teleporting on top of you? It feels very unfair. "Fun fact", due to how the animations work, slowdown effects (I'm Drowsy, Era walk, etc.) make the telefragging worse because then it removes the telegraphed animations entirely. The boss is just a loving mess. Except due to how helpful slowdowns are, it's really not worth it to avoid using it because even without it, the telefragging will still happen. You just get like 3 frames of warning instead of literally 0, which is functionally the same thing. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 04:16 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 04:13
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Did the big Repentence update make the floors bigger? I don't see anything in the patch notes, but I'm constantly going "Jesus, is this an XL floor??" and then hitting tab and ..... nope
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some love for the OG soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqE6gwZqkbw
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RatHat posted:Is there anything you can do to prevent Delirium from teleporting on top of you? It feels very unfair. No. That is the reason people consider it a trash boss, the trainwreck of boss armor aside. e:fb
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PostNouveau posted:Did the big Repentence update make the floors bigger? I don't see anything in the patch notes, but I'm constantly going "Jesus, is this an XL floor??" and then hitting tab and ..... nope I absolutely think so. Basement II is usually loving enormous compared to I. It feels like Womb-level sizing applies to every stage now.
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It definitely feels like something happened to floor generation. Sometimes floors seem reasonably sized for where they're placed. Other times I had to check if Curse of the Labyrinth was in effect or not. I wonder if that might be why boss rush feels so much harder to reach now.goferchan posted:Hmm I had a similarly weird thing happen with Tainted Isaac holding Lachryphagy/Cricket's Body/Jacob's Ladder happen on Mega Satan today, which is a normal "room" as far as I know. I was doing decent damage chipping him down and all of a sudden he just got WIPED out. Literally transitioned into his skeleton form and then immediately died afterwards before he could even do an attack I couldn't recreate the instagibbing, but I noticed Mega Satan was randomly taking hundreds of damage when my damage stat was like... 11. Might be because how that room doesn't have actual walls for the tears to hit, so that's likely a factor too.
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Black August posted:I absolutely think so. Basement II is usually loving enormous compared to I. It feels like Womb-level sizing applies to every stage now. Just huuuuuuge. I'll go through Catacombs II and find the item room, shop and boss room, and there will be like 4 unexplored paths still left and it's like what in the hell is going on?
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Araxxor posted:I couldn't recreate the instagibbing, but I noticed Mega Satan was randomly taking hundreds of damage when my damage stat was like... 11. Might be because how that room doesn't have actual walls for the tears to hit, so that's likely a factor too. Yeah I have no idea what triggered it but "no walls" is a pretty good guess-- with Tainted Isaac it's pretty easy to narrow down the interactions, and all my other items were just a combination of generic tears and damage ups, nothing particularly sexy. I think my damage is only like 8 or something. I'm about to fight Delirium on the same run so we'll see if it happens again or if it likely is something to do with the room border. edit: OH now that I'm booting it up again I forgot I had Rubber Cement. Is that the missing piece?? Really similar deal with Delirium, it turns out, and a little more clear since he had a health bar unlike Mega Satan -- did decent steady damage to him but then after a while he went straight from 25% HP or so to immediately dead. goferchan fucked around with this message at 05:18 on May 29, 2021 |
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PostNouveau posted:Just huuuuuuge. I'll go through Catacombs II and find the item room, shop and boss room, and there will be like 4 unexplored paths still left and it's like what in the hell is going on? Occasionally I'll get a second floor that feels REALLY small but honestly it's probably because I stopped playing for a long time before Repentance and forgot how big floors are now, and it's just an old normal-sized floor. I'm torn on it because if you want to explore every room (or just get unlucky finding the boss/treasure room/shop) it can be a slog, but at least on early floors it also smooths the game out a little giving you more chances to get drops or for rooms to generate special features. The ideal for me would probably be splitting the difference somewhere -- I remember how much it used to suck to only get like 3 combats on a floor and none of them drop a key, which is rarely an issue anymore.
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goferchan posted:Occasionally I'll get a second floor that feels REALLY small but honestly it's probably because I stopped playing for a long time before Repentance and forgot how big floors are now, and it's just an old normal-sized floor. I'm torn on it because if you want to explore every room (or just get unlucky finding the boss/treasure room/shop) it can be a slog, but at least on early floors it also smooths the game out a little giving you more chances to get drops or for rooms to generate special features. The ideal for me would probably be splitting the difference somewhere -- I remember how much it used to suck to only get like 3 combats on a floor and none of them drop a key, which is rarely an issue anymore. They don't dead end, so I think if they made a change it was so you always get more decision points. Should I do the boss trap? The curse room? The options are available so much more now. But it's a bit annoying if you're going for boss rush/hush. An unlucky floor where you full clear takes forevvvvvvvverrrrrrrr now
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