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hbag posted:whats the address of that new network the freenode boys made libera.chat is run by the former staff of freenode and it's where basically every channel worth lurking or chatting in has moved to
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a bunch of channels moved to OFTC instead
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Kazinsal posted:every channel worth lurking or chatting in has moved to so none then
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once steam gets their windows virtualization poo poo working for ALL games instead of just a handful of pre-selected ones theyre testing it out with im probably gonna work on switching over to desktop linux because i guess i hate myself apparently
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iirc you can just run valves wine fork as a regular wine host thing I dunno how though I only use command line utils in unix as dmr and ken intended
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May 28, 2021 21:56
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pretty sure this is going to be the year of gaming on linux yeah.
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May 28, 2021 21:57
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easiest imo is just keep a win 10 vm or comp around for games, and then stream from that to os x or linux w/ steam. it works fine for almost everything
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May 28, 2021 21:58
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Broken Machine posted:easiest imo is just keep a win 10 vm or comp around for games, and then stream from that to os x or linux w/ steam. it works fine for almost everything something tells me running a particularly demanding game in a virtualbox machine isnt going to go too well also windows takes loving ages to boot and i will most likely lose interest in the time it takes
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hbag posted:something tells me running a particularly demanding game in a virtualbox machine isnt going to go too well for several years now you've been able to do good 3d in a vm w/ gpu passthrough, the performance hit is just a few percent. it works fine on os x, a few people here earlier in this thread said it was fine-ish for linux (as linux goes)
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hbag posted:once steam gets their windows virtualization poo poo working for ALL games instead of just a handful of pre-selected ones theyre testing it out with im probably gonna work on switching over to desktop linux you can turn it on for all games, whether it'll work or not is down to the usual wine issues games in particular like anti-cheat kernel drivers or making bare NT system calls for DRM anti-tampering
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May 28, 2021 22:03
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Broken Machine posted:for several years now you've been able to do good 3d in a vm w/ gpu passthrough, the performance hit is just a few percent. it works fine on os x, a few people here earlier in this thread said it was fine-ish for linux (as linux goes) at the point where you're running both linux and windows *anyway* though you'd need a pretty good reason for it to make sense to not just reverse the virtualization and use wsl. windows is not without problems, but drivers are good and it is a perfectly fine virtualization host. much as i like to make fun of it the pure linux gamer is clearly trying to do something as a tinkering and hobby project. Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 28, 2021 |
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FWIW, I've been playing my games in proton (though most are native and don't need it) because I definitely can't be arsed to reboot after work. It's fine. Really, all the games I need.
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Broken Machine posted:for several years now you've been able to do good 3d in a vm w/ gpu passthrough, the performance hit is just a few percent. it works fine on os x, a few people here earlier in this thread said it was fine-ish for linux (as linux goes) iirc if you have an nvidia card GPU passthrough only works if you have a quadro or titan. also Cybernetic Vermin posted:at the point where you're running both linux and windows *anyway* though you'd need a pretty good reason for it to make sense to not just reverse the virtualization and use wsl. windows is not without problems, but drivers are good and it is a perfectly fine virtualization host.
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May 28, 2021 22:13
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:at the point where you're running both linux and windows *anyway* though you'd need a pretty good reason for it to make sense to not just reverse the virtualization and wsl. windows is not without problems, but drivers are good and it is a perfectly fine virtualization host. myself, i just keep a windows system around solely for games - i looked at using gpu passthrough too though, and on os x at least it works reasonably well. but overall i agree, it's a bit easier to just have a dedicated windows system for games. i don't use it for anything else though, windows as a host for most anything just doesn't appeal much, i'd never use it as a vm host. the whole idea to me is to interact and fiddle w/ windows as infrequently as possible. the ideal, all else being equal is just a nice vm w/ win 10 pro or enterprise that you can use for games and it's fine, just shut it down when you're done and forget all about windows
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May 28, 2021 22:14
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when should i admit that the main reason i want to eventually switch to linux is because i really like customizing the living poo poo out of things
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hbag posted:once steam gets their windows virtualization poo poo working for ALL games instead of just a handful of pre-selected ones theyre testing it out with im probably gonna work on switching over to desktop linux It's not virtualization, it's a compatibility layer where they're re-implementing DirectX calls in Vulkan. It's very fast and stable. Also, there's literally just one checkbox that you have to change to unlock it for all games in your library. Check out Protondb for people's experiences with using it: https://www.protondb.com/ I've used it for gaming exclusively for like... 2 years now? To name a few, I've played Dishonored, Dark Souls 3, Witcher 3, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Prey, and probably others from start to finish with it. I was able to even install Divinity: Original Sin 2 from GoG and add it as an external game using Steamplay and it works fine. Like seriously, there's no reason to not use it at this point if you're even remotely curious.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:windows is not without problems windows *is* the problem and yeah the vast majority of games work fine in proton, i love it
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proton compatibility is pretty drat good but still hit or miss in a bunch of cases, doom eternal was supposed to work more or less flawlessly but it wouldnt even start for me, horizon zero dawn was missing a lot of 3d objects in the intro scene and then crashed once the game proper was going to start (i think), and notably, proton games cannot be streamed to another steam client proton games also tend to max out my gpu (rtx 2080 ti) and make the gpu fan turn on full speed, even for games which should not be demanding like stalker shadow of chernobyl given those issues, notable games which work extremely well, even with a xbone controller with wireless dongle (through https://github.com/medusalix/xow or plugged in through usb): control outer wilds disco elysium untitled goose game dead space stalker chadow of shernobyl manifold garden metro exodus
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Broken Machine posted:for several years now you've been able to do good 3d in a vm w/ gpu passthrough, the performance hit is just a few percent. it works fine on os x, a few people here earlier in this thread said it was fine-ish for linux (as linux goes) I tried GPU passthrough but it requires you to dedicate a screen to the Windows VM for gaming. I want to be able to alt-tab between a Linux desktop and a game.
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Kazinsal posted:iirc if you have an nvidia card GPU passthrough only works if you have a quadro or titan. also it wasn't officially supported but worked fine for running games in a vm, and just recently they started officially supporting it as well
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ive been gaming with proton on steam for like a year now, mostly single player stuff like: Re7 Dirt rally (non-native because it runs better) Sekiro Ds2 and 3 (Inc mods) mgs5 Subnautica Nier automata dmc5 Deus ex md witcher 3 hollow knight from time to time you need to download custom proton builds, but most stuff works really well
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joining the proton crew don't think i've encountered something that hasn't worked in the last years. some of them had some hoops to jump over, but i haven't encountered any that wouldn't work at all for a very long time
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Tankakern posted:joining the proton crew yeah, wine/proton work really well now, the only exception being the aforementioned drm/anti-cheat crapware that gets freaked out by it i haven't had an interest in multiplayer games since being on a campus lan where we had private servers for a bunch of games and everyone actually knew everyone else, so that doesn't matter to me
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Games like LoL breaking on Wine is more of a feature imo
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Broken Machine posted:myself, i just keep a windows system around solely for games - i looked at using gpu passthrough too though, and on os x at least it works reasonably well. but overall i agree, it's a bit easier to just have a dedicated windows system for games. i don't use it for anything else though, windows as a host for most anything just doesn't appeal much, i'd never use it as a vm host. the whole idea to me is to interact and fiddle w/ windows as infrequently as possible. the ideal, all else being equal is just a nice vm w/ win 10 pro or enterprise that you can use for games and it's fine, just shut it down when you're done and forget all about windows yeah same does subnautica work on a non-ms windows
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Kazinsal posted:iirc if you have an nvidia card GPU passthrough only works if you have a quadro or titan. also Nvidia finally got their heads out of their rear end and stopped doing this poo poo in their last driver. https://www.phoronix.com/forums/for...ws-vms-on-linux
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NihilCredo posted:I tried GPU passthrough but it requires you to dedicate a screen to the Windows VM for gaming. I want to be able to alt-tab between a Linux desktop and a game. synergy is the way to do this.
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NihilCredo posted:I tried GPU passthrough but it requires you to dedicate a screen to the Windows VM for gaming. I want to be able to alt-tab between a Linux desktop and a game. DoomTrainPhD posted:synergy is the way to do this.
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mystes posted:looking glass looking glass is also cool and good. https://symless.com/synergy
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I know what synergy is, but it doesn't do what NihilCredo was asking.
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mystes posted:I know what synergy is, but it doesn't do what NihilCredo was asking. yeah, I’ve always used synergy and had a brain fart. Looking glass is the correct answer.
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Lysidas posted:and notably, proton games cannot be streamed to another steam client there might be some that don't work, but i've successfully played hades and wolfenstein: the new order over protondb+steam streaming without any issues
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Tried i3 and it’s rough. Launcher menu just indexes $path by default and you need to edit the conf to use .desktop files instead??? Bad hidpi scaling. Back to gnome. The pop-shell extension has all the same features as i3 anyway, including universal tabs/stacking which someone here said nothing else has
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Voodoo Cafe posted:there might be some that don't work, but i've successfully played hades and wolfenstein: the new order over protondb+steam streaming without any issues Yeah I missed this post before but that's not at all been my experience. I stream games regularly to my phone and play with a Razer Kishi controller and aside from the odd lag spikes it's like playing locally. Just this week I got Retroarch set up as an external program, with Dolphin, so I've started playing GC games on my phone via streaming. It's cool as gently caress.
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I want to see hbag try out NetBSD
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I wanna see them get HURD
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Antigravitas posted:I wanna see them get HURD self harm requests are verboten in yospos
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shoeberto posted:Yeah I missed this post before but that's not at all been my experience. I stream games regularly to my phone and play with a Razer Kishi controller and aside from the odd lag spikes it's like playing locally. neat, i have tried streaming most of the stuff i listed as working under proton, and not a single one has worked to stream to my laptop or apple tv, good to know it isnt a global issue
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