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A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
Jay
Gee
Wentworth
Call eight six seven cash nowwwwwwwwwww

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wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

A Bakers Cousin posted:

Jay
Gee
Wentworth
Call eight six seven cash nowwwwwwwwwww

WTF is wrong with you, some kind of wannabe American doesnt even know it's eight-seven-seven.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\
"Everything is a scam in America"
-F. Scott Fitzgerald, probably

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

wheatpuppy posted:

WTF is wrong with you, some kind of wannabe American doesnt even know it's eight-seven-seven.

It didn't sound correct as I was typing it, im glad the feeling wasn't unfounded.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

wheatpuppy posted:

WTF is wrong with you, some kind of wannabe American doesnt even know it's eight-seven-seven.

They were probably confusing it with the 80s smash from one-hit wonder Tommy Tutone, 867-5309/Jenny, in which the song’s protagonist details the anxiety and eventual jubilation over calling a woman’s number found scrawled in a public bathroom.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Lawyers that work for "free" (unless you win) is not necessarily a bad idea. It helps poor people who've legitimately gotten hosed somehow maybe get some compensation that they otherwise might not have been able to afford to get before because lawyers = lots of money. But the problem obviously comes when it gets abused. Now everyone wants to scratch a nail and get a quick pay day.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Took the 202 to Astoria, these are just a couple of the many buildings like this along that route
















24 total pics

Also passed by a cove called "Dismal Nitch" which keeps up with my love of horrible Oregon cast names. Lewis and Clark really got here and said "jesus, this place sucks"

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Blue Moonlight posted:

They were probably confusing it with the 80s smash from one-hit wonder Tommy Tutone, 867-5309/Jenny, in which the song’s protagonist details the anxiety and eventual jubilation over calling a woman’s number found scrawled in a public bathroom.

Feeling really dissected by this thread

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Lol *zip*

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Bismuth posted:

Took the 202 to Astoria, these are just a couple of the many buildings like this along that route


Also passed by a cove called "Dismal Nitch" which keeps up with my love of horrible Oregon cast names. Lewis and Clark really got here and said "jesus, this place sucks"

My cousin grew up in Astoria.
Visiting and hanging out there in the mid 90's was killer.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

What I love about this one is that you might think it’s in some forgotten seaside town off the beaten trail.

Oh no.

This is in the middle of the Portland-Beaverton-Hillsboro sprawl, a mile away from Intel’s Aloha campus.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Blue Moonlight posted:

What I love about this one is that you might think it’s in some forgotten seaside town off the beaten trail.

Oh no.

This is in the middle of the Portland-Beaverton-Hillsboro sprawl, a mile away from Intel’s Aloha campus.

Yep, this fucker is way closer to home than I'm comfortable with

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Bismuth posted:

Took the 202 to Astoria, these are just a couple of the many buildings like this along that route


Did you see One Eyed Willie chillin' off the coast?

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

This may have been covered earlier in the thread. If so, I am sorry for re-litigating old material. I am also sorry if this rant comes across as mean.

But why is America so scared of public transport? Only a few really big cities have anything resembling a decent train/metro system. And even fewer of the 2nd tier cities have any decent bus lines or coverage.

I have lived and worked in 4 different countries, and have always been able to take the train/bus to work. When I went to University, I lived an hour outside of the CBD, and still easily caught Public Transport to school.

I was in Jian'ou, (a small town near Nanping in Fujian, China) for 6 months, and Namhae, (an properly rural island just off the south coast of South Korea), for 3 years and both of those places had more buses and better coverage than when I went to visit my then girlfriend in Indianapolis, a big US city. Hell, I even did a a year and a half in Geelong, which is a shithole, and even there I could take bus from my house way out on the outskirts of the city to the train station and be in Melbourne within 2 hours.

I know the arguments of 1)Public Transport takes time and money to build the infrastructure, and US governments aren't into that, and 2)the US is bigger than Europe, (great! who teh gently caress mentioned Europe in any of this?), so for some reason city based public transport won't work, also I have heard a 3rd argument something about the way that US suburbs are planned/built, making travel between them awkward(?)

But all of these arguments ring hollow to me. It just seems like the US is ideologically opposed to trains, trams and busses because something something public = socialist! so BOO.

Wendigee
Jul 19, 2004

Not worth arguing nevermind.

Wendigee fucked around with this message at 11:27 on May 31, 2021

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]

BrigadierSensible posted:

This may have been covered earlier in the thread. If so, I am sorry for re-litigating old material. I am also sorry if this rant comes across as mean.

But why is America so scared of public transport? Only a few really big cities have anything resembling a decent train/metro system. And even fewer of the 2nd tier cities have any decent bus lines or coverage.

I have lived and worked in 4 different countries, and have always been able to take the train/bus to work. When I went to University, I lived an hour outside of the CBD, and still easily caught Public Transport to school.

I was in Jian'ou, (a small town near Nanping in Fujian, China) for 6 months, and Namhae, (an properly rural island just off the south coast of South Korea), for 3 years and both of those places had more buses and better coverage than when I went to visit my then girlfriend in Indianapolis, a big US city. Hell, I even did a a year and a half in Geelong, which is a shithole, and even there I could take bus from my house way out on the outskirts of the city to the train station and be in Melbourne within 2 hours.

I know the arguments of 1)Public Transport takes time and money to build the infrastructure, and US governments aren't into that, and 2)the US is bigger than Europe, (great! who teh gently caress mentioned Europe in any of this?), so for some reason city based public transport won't work, also I have heard a 3rd argument something about the way that US suburbs are planned/built, making travel between them awkward(?)

But all of these arguments ring hollow to me. It just seems like the US is ideologically opposed to trains, trams and busses because something something public = socialist! so BOO.

because someone in advertising made the connection that Cars = Freedom = Love America !!

and also the tire lobby.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

seems like the easier solution at this point would be a better car that runs on sustainable electricity, rather than completely changing American infrastructure and culture. it does not make me feel good to post about it on the internet, tho, so it has that going against it

munce
Oct 23, 2010

BrigadierSensible posted:

This may have been covered earlier in the thread. If so, I am sorry for re-litigating old material. I am also sorry if this rant comes across as mean.

But why is America so scared of public transport?

Theres a few historical reasons that I can think of.

The car industry, combined with the oil industry became massively powerful in the early to mid 20th century. They actively worked very successfully to get public transport like trams, trains etc removed from cities. Literally ripped up the tram lines etc. They promoted suburbia that required a car for every family and all that kind of thing.

Another overlooked aspect is the cold war. Planners knew they couldn't really defend against an icbm attack, so one way to minimise damage was to spread cities out. So they actively promoted suburban sprawl as the american dream.

So you end up with a car based society in sprawled out cities that aren't dense enough to make public transport viable.

In the modern era I'd guess a lot of the politics is gently caress the poors why would we spend money giving them busses.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

hawowanlawow posted:

seems like the easier solution at this point would be a better car that runs on sustainable electricity

That's impossible. Well, electricity might be sustainable, but the car never will be.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

ExecuDork posted:

I think they count as Americana, yes. Growing up in Canada, huddled up close to the border for warmth, we always had a few US channels on TV. The ads were distinct. Not just for antidepressants, for anything medical. Medical devices, any kind of drug imaginable (with the hilarious long lists of side-effects, spoken very quickly and softly at the end of the commercial), health insurance companies, individual hospitals, you name it they made lovely commercials for it.

Also lawyers. There are ambulance-chasers in Canada, too, but the ads for lawyers based in Seattle or Spokane or Detroit or Buffalo or Boston were pants-on-head crazy, and highly enjoyable.
"Has something BAD happened to you?"
*long list of horrifying injuries and circumstances appears*
"CALL NOW. I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR MONEY!"
Success not guaranteed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BaZkfKYz4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB7xVdfPrGU


*in western New York accent*
call 444-4444


Hurt in a car? cal William Mattar

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

BrigadierSensible posted:

This may have been covered earlier in the thread. If so, I am sorry for re-litigating old material. I am also sorry if this rant comes across as mean.

But why is America so scared of public transport? Only a few really big cities have anything resembling a decent train/metro system. And even fewer of the 2nd tier cities have any decent bus lines or coverage.

I have lived and worked in 4 different countries, and have always been able to take the train/bus to work. When I went to University, I lived an hour outside of the CBD, and still easily caught Public Transport to school.

I was in Jian'ou, (a small town near Nanping in Fujian, China) for 6 months, and Namhae, (an properly rural island just off the south coast of South Korea), for 3 years and both of those places had more buses and better coverage than when I went to visit my then girlfriend in Indianapolis, a big US city. Hell, I even did a a year and a half in Geelong, which is a shithole, and even there I could take bus from my house way out on the outskirts of the city to the train station and be in Melbourne within 2 hours.

I know the arguments of 1)Public Transport takes time and money to build the infrastructure, and US governments aren't into that, and 2)the US is bigger than Europe, (great! who teh gently caress mentioned Europe in any of this?), so for some reason city based public transport won't work, also I have heard a 3rd argument something about the way that US suburbs are planned/built, making travel between them awkward(?)

But all of these arguments ring hollow to me. It just seems like the US is ideologically opposed to trains, trams and busses because something something public = socialist! so BOO.

This is the laugh at chintzy Americana thread, not 'what the gently caress is WRONG with america am I RIGHT or WHAT you guys' thread.
gently caress off.
Same to euro goons who love to barge into every thread possible demanding that Belgium is a workers paradise and always has been or whatever.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\

Big Beef City posted:

This is the laugh at chintzy Americana thread, not 'what the gently caress is WRONG with america am I RIGHT or WHAT you guys' thread.
gently caress off.
Same to euro goons who love to barge into every thread possible demanding that Belgium is a workers paradise and always has been or whatever.
Yeah, we don't come into your Britannia.jpg thread and make fun of your pale food, pale PM, and royalty fetish.

Or whatever.

America sucks and I wish I could get out

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

stealie72 posted:

Yeah, we don't come into your Britannia.jpg thread and make fun of your pale food, pale PM, and royalty fetish.

Or whatever.

America sucks and I wish I could get out

I mean this guy seems to be Chinese or something idk but actually you lot do do that sometimes, usually after something traumatic like the Brexit vote.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

hawowanlawow posted:

seems like the easier solution at this point would be a better car that runs on sustainable electricity, rather than completely changing American infrastructure and culture. it does not make me feel good to post about it on the internet, tho, so it has that going against it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZKbk27yXo

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

BrigadierSensible posted:

But why is America so scared of public transport?
Black people, OP.

https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/824

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\

No joke, whenever you are like "why is _____ like it is in America" save yourself time and start with racism then work back from there.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
I ask you: do Canada or Europe have MR. RAY'S HAIR WEAVE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccy2x-JEoGc

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Big Beef City posted:

This is the laugh at chintzy Americana thread, not 'what the gently caress is WRONG with america am I RIGHT or WHAT you guys' thread.
gently caress off.
Same to euro goons who love to barge into every thread possible demanding that Belgium is a workers paradise and always has been or whatever.

The Napoleon complex just wafts off that post like anxiety sweat it’s kinda great

Tarkus
Aug 27, 2000

Coolguye posted:

The Napoleon complex just wafts off that post like anxiety sweat it’s kinda great

I kinda agree with BBC on this one. If people want to complain about the US, they can go to almost any political thread on this forum. This is about the lighter side of things.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Honestly I just saw “hey guys I know this is a bad idea” and then like 4 paragraphs of text and went “if you knew this was a bad idea why’d you do it”

Just really needed to get that one out I guess, bad look but you do you

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

BrigadierSensible posted:

why is America so scared of public transport?

We used to but then we stopped and switching back's too much.

Iirc, the explanation hits these beats:
  • Pre-WWII pattern of development was dense, walkable and transit-oriented.
  • Transit meant street cars, and street cars were often run at a loss. They made money from one-off sales of land along routes. Delicate status quo.
  • US cities became [Central Business District] + [Suburbs].
  • It takes very few cars on the road to gum up transit routes.
  • It's very easy to convert street car suburbs into regular suburbs.
  • Post-WWII both the public and the market wanted private autos and sprawl.
  • The state threw its weight behind sprawl. The Pre-WWII pattern was dead, dead, dead.
  • Sprawl is typically revenue negative to municipalities. Can't really support itself, let alone robust transit.


Old school dense, walkable, transit-oriented, 2 to 5 story, mixed-used, brick-commercial architecture.



"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."


Seriously, just imagine every US city being like...

Twin Cities, 1913


Would be nice!

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

That is crazy talk I was just informed by my contemporary that the hateful shitstain that is the united states actually banned all public transportation because I'm a racist for being born there.

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

BrigadierSensible posted:

This may have been covered earlier in the thread. If so, I am sorry for re-litigating old material. I am also sorry if this rant comes across as mean.

But why is America so scared of public transport? Only a few really big cities have anything resembling a decent train/metro system. And even fewer of the 2nd tier cities have any decent bus lines or coverage.

I have lived and worked in 4 different countries, and have always been able to take the train/bus to work. When I went to University, I lived an hour outside of the CBD, and still easily caught Public Transport to school.

I was in Jian'ou, (a small town near Nanping in Fujian, China) for 6 months, and Namhae, (an properly rural island just off the south coast of South Korea), for 3 years and both of those places had more buses and better coverage than when I went to visit my then girlfriend in Indianapolis, a big US city. Hell, I even did a a year and a half in Geelong, which is a shithole, and even there I could take bus from my house way out on the outskirts of the city to the train station and be in Melbourne within 2 hours.

I know the arguments of 1)Public Transport takes time and money to build the infrastructure, and US governments aren't into that, and 2)the US is bigger than Europe, (great! who teh gently caress mentioned Europe in any of this?), so for some reason city based public transport won't work, also I have heard a 3rd argument something about the way that US suburbs are planned/built, making travel between them awkward(?)

But all of these arguments ring hollow to me. It just seems like the US is ideologically opposed to trains, trams and busses because something something public = socialist! so BOO.

Finally, someone taking on the real problems in America in the thread where I post candid pictures of fat inbred rednecks.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

The bus smells like pee pee.

Oh Don Piano
Nov 4, 2009
i just went to throw some stuff in the garbage and i got honey mustard on my underwear :911:

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Oh Don Piano posted:

i just went to throw some stuff in the garbage and i got honey mustard on my underwear :911:

let not a drop go to waste.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth
i love to take the bus











LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Cloks posted:

i love to take the bus













pretty spiffy

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Cloks posted:

i love to take the bus













bad rear end. id rather eat a pile of cement flavored grits in a burned out old bus than ride to some European smarm orgy of a restaurant for free And You Can Take That To The Bank

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AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
you, an enlightened European:

me, an American that just dreams of Some day Owning a restaurant like this guy:









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