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Actually yeah token Druid is pretty fun and does well enough against Paladin. You just need to do your best to never ever queue against Priest ever. e: and I've been struggling against Y'sharrj Warlock, but I have a feeling that deck loses to basically everything else.
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Shwqa posted:Wasn't one of the more complained about magic card one that was a card that a bunch of number 5s all over the card and a single overlaying 6? if we're gonna bring magic into this, recall how for years and years, the designers were very open in interviews about locking basic game functions to specific colors for flavor reasons. like they would make a similar spell for red and blue in a set, but the blue one would be an instant spell, and the red one would be a sorcery (slow) spell. all because "blue is the instant color, red is the sorcery color"
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Are we expecting the mini set this week? Just got to 2k banked gold off the weekly and want it not tempting me ASAP
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Lutha Mahtin posted:if we're gonna bring magic into this, recall how for years and years, the designers were very open in interviews about locking basic game functions to specific colors for flavor reasons. like they would make a similar spell for red and blue in a set, but the blue one would be an instant spell, and the red one would be a sorcery (slow) spell. all because "blue is the instant color, red is the sorcery color" Yeah I remember those days in MtG. But we remember the days when Team 5 wouldn't nerf cards for months, even though it was obvious they were a problem. The new MtG team and the new Team 5 are both much better now.
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Blasmeister posted:Are we expecting the mini set this week? Just got to 2k banked gold off the weekly and want it not tempting me ASAP Confirmed release date is June 3rd.
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For the mini-sets I'd say keep the banked gold and wait for the next full set. It's only  . Slightly less ($18) if you have the ability to load the Amazon App Store.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For the mini-sets I'd say keep the banked gold and wait for the next full set. It's significantly better dust value though since it'll have like 4 legendaries. 2k gold is what, 800 dust average?
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Joink posted:Love these mid game turns against paladin. My spell get countered and I buff a paladin minion, my 3 attack minion attacks and dies, a 3/4 taunt is spawned. Out tempo'd on MY turn lol. don't worry. i just lost 3x in a row as pally, first two games drew super heavy and didn't get sword and just got secrets instead. third game dc'ed.
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Acerbatus posted:It's significantly better dust value though since it'll have like 4 legendaries. 2k gold is what, 800 dust average? Fair enough, I just see it from the perspective of $18-20 for guaranteed "pulls" versus 20 packs in a new expansion, where you're guaranteed at least one legendary in the first ten packs. So if you use the 2000 gold on twenty packs for the next full expansion, you're guaranteed at least 2360 in "dust value" assuming you get the "first ten packs" legendary and then nothing but 4C/1R packs for your remaining 19. You can also rate those packs as slightly more valuable since you won't be pulling any duplicates in them.
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Acerbatus posted:It's significantly better dust value though since it'll have like 4 legendaries. 2k gold is what, 800 dust average? Yea, 4 legendaries guaranteed in 2000g is just too good of a deal to not buy. Also from packs 2000g is about 2000 in raw dust because Epics also have a pity timer and golden drop rates cover the rest. BIG HEADLINE posted:Fair enough, I just see it from the perspective of $18-20 for guaranteed "pulls" versus 20 packs in a new expansion, where you're guaranteed at least one legendary in the first ten packs. If it's in your budget to buy pre-orders for main expansions then go for that instead, because the miniset is a high conversion from gold into cards/dust (either 11,280 dust value in cards, or 2520 in raw dust). But if not then sure buying the mini-set for $$ and using gold on expansion release day is fine.
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I started watching Hearthstone again after a long break, and have been watching the grandmaster tournament. It seems like shaman and hunter are still completely absent from any kind of pro play, is there a reason for that?
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Oasx posted:I started watching Hearthstone again after a long break, and have been watching the grandmaster tournament. Shaman is not strong enough. Hunter had a win in Week 3 in the Specialist format, but since then the nerfs/buffs happened and the GM meta kept shifting to squeeze Hunter out of lineups until this week where there were none left. Notably because Mage is no longer strong, so Hunter is no longer useful in a lineup. Of course everything is subject to change for Playoffs (and the miniset release) coming next weekend.
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When is the next round of free packs for watching those on YT?
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I think not until GM finals.
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IIRC you got two packs each for watching week 1, week 2-7 and week 8 so the next round of games of should reward card packs as week 7 just concluded. I believe the next round is the final qualifying round for the world championships involving the top half of players from the past 7 weeks.
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victorious posted:I think not until GM finals. Drops will be back for the Playoffs, starting on Jun 4th. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 13:12 on May 31, 2021 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:For the mini-sets I'd say keep the banked gold and wait for the next full set. You see, the flaw in this argument is that Gold is free, and costs twenty dollars.
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 I'm still just goofing around in dumpster ranks for achievements (though I've accidentally advanced to 4500) but this still made me laugh because a) there was nobody building Quillboars and b) I was at 2 HP when I upgraded to 5 on round 8 and tripled into the first Kalecgos and proceeded to run away with the whole game from that point.
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Elysium posted:You see, the flaw in this argument is that Gold is free, and Except for the time it takes to grind out 2k gold.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Except for the time it takes to grind out 2k gold.
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Flayer posted:If you play Hearthstone for fun/pleasure there isn't a grind. Gold accumulates naturally. Especially with the new rewards track I’ve found that I have excess gold for the first time. I have everything from Barrens and I’m only missing a few cards from the previous year but only playing 2-3 days a week I’ve got 2500 gold already.
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Cant Ride A Bus posted:Especially with the new rewards track I’ve found that I have excess gold for the first time. I have everything from Barrens and I’m only missing a few cards from the previous year but only playing 2-3 days a week I’ve got 2500 gold already. Yeah it seems like they are moving away from getting people to buy packs to getting people to buy cosmetics. Which is great for me, as I don't care about cosmetics.
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they want people to buy more of everything. and more often. expansion sets happen more frequently, plus the mini sets now, the pass, these random bundles and theme packs. so maybe you're spending gold on the mini set, but you had to buy the tavern pass. cosmetics are nice (some of them), and i'd be totally down with a lot more if they had really kept the focus on just cosmetics instead of pushing everything else. but some of them look really bad, esp. the faces. they really should've focused more on the older blizzard / wow art style which was more fantasy vs. the anime stuff we get nowadays.
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I can't see buying packs for an expansion anymore and I think the math regarding the tavern pass was explained earlier in the thread, basically as long as you get it at the beginning.and play to do your quests it works out as a positive. I will say that I only get at most 4 decks for an expansion so maybe if you wanted all of the decks you would need to still buy expansions.
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Any good janky decks to grind up to gold? I'm tempted to blow all my dust on a Token Druid deck but it's basically from scratch and I know I'm way better off just waiting and saving it to see how the mini-expansion affects the meta. Still using a crappy Hunter deck but I don't think using it through silver is gonna be worth the pain
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idiotsavant posted:Any good janky decks to grind up to gold? I'm tempted to blow all my dust on a Token Druid deck but it's basically from scratch and I know I'm way better off just waiting and saving it to see how the mini-expansion affects the meta. Still using a crappy Hunter deck but I don't think using it through silver is gonna be worth the pain 1) Def don't spend any dust until the miniset releases. Everything is subject to change. 2) The system has been changed so that all decks are equal, with respect to grinding gold. As long as you're in some ranked (edit: constructed ladder) mode you're getting that ~400 XP/hour, regardless of deck. double edit: VVV ooooh that "gold" lol gotcha AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 19:48 on May 31, 2021 |
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Sorry, I meant grinding up to gold rank for the extra pack and rares. Wishing now that I would have knocked out some dailies too when I started playing BGs a couple months ago but oh well.
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idiotsavant posted:Sorry, I meant grinding up to gold rank for the extra pack and rares. Wishing now that I would have knocked out some dailies too when I started playing BGs a couple months ago but oh well. HS Top Decks does budget deck lists that are generally pretty good and include generally 0 non-free legendaries and few to no epics. https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/hearthstone-budget-cheap-decks/ I think Trump (the hs guy) did a series going from 0 to legend purely free 2 play on a completely fresh account.
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idiotsavant posted:Sorry, I meant grinding up to gold rank for the extra pack and rares. Wishing now that I would have knocked out some dailies too when I started playing BGs a couple months ago but oh well.
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It's a bit late to learn a new deck to grind out the ladder. Stick with what you know best until tomorrow imo.
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Just lost with double Kalegcos and double poison amalgams on turn 11. 7th place 
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is there a nice comprehensive guide to battlegrounds strategy that's worth a poo poo b/c i've been loving around with it enough to start to enjoy it but not enough in the slightest to figure out a strategy to get me to a win
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The first 6 turns you can basically play on autopilot if you don't have a strong hero power for the early game. Buy a minion turn 1, preferably one that generates a token in some way, upgrade turn 2, on 3 sell one of your tokens and buy 2 minions, buy 2 more on turn 4, upgrade and buy a minion turn 5, upgrade turn 6. Before this point, don't bother going all in on any tribe, its only the 4+ star minions that are worth building around. Find a good one and figure out if you want to go in on a specific tribe or go for a menagerie build.
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Thanks to all the people that posted suggestions for me. I finally made my first legend. I had to switch of paladin around diamond 3 just because of all the paladins I was running into. Face hunter got me over the hump with a paladin being the final boss.
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Adregan posted:Thanks to all the people that posted suggestions for me. I finally made my first legend. I had to switch of paladin around diamond 3 just because of all the paladins I was running into. Face hunter got me over the hump with a paladin being the final boss. Way to go! It gets easier after the first time until at some point you just make legend each month without even really grinding.
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sirtommygunn posted:The first 6 turns you can basically play on autopilot if you don't have a strong hero power for the early game. Buy a minion turn 1, preferably one that generates a token in some way, upgrade turn 2, on 3 sell one of your tokens and buy 2 minions, buy 2 more on turn 4, upgrade and buy a minion turn 5, upgrade turn 6. Before this point, don't bother going all in on any tribe, its only the 4+ star minions that are worth building around. Find a good one and figure out if you want to go in on a specific tribe or go for a menagerie build. Adding to this, if your initial turn 3 (the 5-gold turn) shop is incredibly bad it's always an option to sell and go directly to T3. You have to spend turn 4 on T3 in that case because the upgrade cost will be 7 and you'll only have 6 gold and no minions, but it can be worthwhile with decent luck, as evidenced by how two good T3 minions on turn 3 with A.F. Kay can carry you for a while. You want to be on T4 by turn 7 (the 9-gold turn) at the latest because the T4 minions are mostly better than T3 and you can triple into T5. Speaking of triples, it can be worthwhile to triple into a T3 minion if your start is extremely good, and otherwise you want to triple into T5 or T6 minions. NEVER triple into T2 or T4 minions, it isn't worth it. Similarly, you want to be on T5 by turn 10 unless you're playing Mechs or Taunt, which prefer to stay at T4 to find their pieces. If you want to *win* (take 1st, not just finish top 4), you need to find your way into an endgame comp that isn't demons or mechs (as neither of those tribes has a consistent endgame state), or scam a win by running 4-5 poison minions + gold Selfless (preferably taunted) + gold Rivendare. The higher level you get, the more likely it is that your final opponent(s) will hate draft to deny you your last one or two combo pieces if they sense what you're trying to do and all your pieces aren't quite in place. This isn't very common, though. Try to avoid board locking yourself unless you're at endgame i.e. always try to have one slot open that you can safely sell without making yourself vulnerable/screwing up your comp. Getting board locked is distressing because you're at that point trying to donkey roll into a triple just to be able to play other cards. Also the higher your rating gets the more likely someone will have an insane highroll and you're just hoping to avoid getting matched to them until the endgame. Oh, and PAY ATTENTION TO SEE IF YOU'RE MATCHED AGAINST A GHOST! Especially if the ghost went out early, it gives you a safe turn to either upgrade your tier or to roll more safely to find something you need. This is risky at top 3 however and it's not that uncommon for a player to die to the ghost (affected me both ways). One slight interface spoiler. If you have emotes available, once the round starts emotes will not transmit after the initial second while the board is filling if the end result is that the game is over. If you're down to one other player and you can emote freely during combat, neither of you died.
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Other points: Bans affect what threats available in the game. Pay attention to these in particular: - Cleave is beasts and mechs only (with pseudo-cleave on elementals). If all three are banned, no worries about cleave. If beasts and mechs are banned, elemental cleave only affects you if there's any overkill. - Divine Shield is on quilboars, dragons, elementals, and mechs. The only non-tribe DS (discounting Amalgadon) is Bolvar and he's terrible. - Tokens are beasts, murlocs, and elementals (elemental is a pseudo-token since they both aren't on board at the same time). If all three are banned, heroes without built-in economy are at a major disavantage. - Poison is on beasts and murlocs (buffed with Toxfin). If both of these are banned, the only sources are Poison Spore (easily countered, but can be threatening in the hands of a George) and Amalgadon. - Beasts have no natural taunts anywhere. - Dragons have no deathrattles. - Both Majordomo and Lil'Rag can buff non-elementals. This has a few edge uses. - Having a demon on board can be useful if you roll into Soul Devourer since it's basically a free buy. - If your desperation T5 triple gives you that +2/+2 taunt buffer, a Faceless Taverngoer, and a tribal minion that isn't what's on your board, you probably lose.
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flatluigi posted:is there a nice comprehensive guide to battlegrounds strategy that's worth a poo poo b/c i've been loving around with it enough to start to enjoy it but not enough in the slightest to figure out a strategy to get me to a win Check out ItsBen321 on YouTube, he has some pretty good videos on basic gameplay and some comp strategy that are pretty decent, and a bunch of critiques of viewer games that can be helpful. Not the most polished but I think they do the job. Your primary goal is just getting top 4 for a win (tho that changes at nosebleed ranks) and usually decent economy and tempo play with a little scaling will get you there at lower ranks. If you want to play for 1st you need to aim for end game comps that either have specific setups (selfless/baron, wolf/baron/macaw, mayyybe pirate/baron scam comp) or that have very strong scaling (Quillboar, double Kalecgos, menagerie, APM pirate, Elemental with the right pieces/economy) so you can outscale the last 2-3 people. There are a few tricks to learn to really nail 1st place play, like making sure to have an Unstable Ghoul or cleave for George, baiting out Zapps with a Spore to protect your Baron, etc, but it generally boils down to managing economy and tempo to find your scaling.
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Navaash posted:- Tokens are beasts, murlocs, and elementals (elemental is a pseudo-token since they both aren't on board at the same time). If all three are banned, heroes without built-in economy are at a major disavantage. The 1/2 Quilboar that gives 2 blood gems when you sell it is basically as good as a token in most cases.
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