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Dammerung posted:I couldn't help myself. Hes going to turn to the camera and do a dreamworks face
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Bismuth posted:are we supposed to give a gently caress The combination of being a little too high up on his back, a bit too thick, and always having that crease drawn on the underside of it just makes it look less like a tail and more like a big fleshy tumor.
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I suddenly realized (im slow) that snout's snout has been shrinking and he now has about the same side profile as the Human/oid characters in the original Dominic Deegan. Also earlier in the comic mookie was actually drawing him with exaggerated expressions and more emotions than the soft humming of a microwave between his ears
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May 31, 2021 06:38
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Yeah. Reminder: This is what Snout looked like in his first appearance before the softboy transformation began.
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Zerilan posted:Yeah. Reminder: This is what Snout looked like in his first appearance before the softboy transformation began. As much as Mookie's artistic ability in Legacy has largely tanked since leaving Mongreltown, I really can't help but appreciate that Snout doesn't look like this hideous bat-person anymore.
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Mx. posted:those old deegan readthroughs are great, really the best thing in the thread lol Snout is like 20 foot tall in this drawing
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skeleton warrior posted:3rd edition D&D with half-orcs as a playable race had been out since 2000, so I think “female orcs are just more muscly humans” was a common idea by the time Dominic Deegan was written. As a playable race they percolated from the original AD&D into a lot of the unofficial D&D-based CRPGs in the '80s--like Rogue (first released in 1980) and its descendants--but they didn't make it into the official stuff at the time--like the SSI Gold Box games (the first being Pool of Radiance from 1988). As for their general depiction in these works...well, I'll just quote the manual from the first The Bard's Tale game (from 1985), which knows how to put things in terms the audience will understand:  The pattern there is the common one: the two "half-" races are orcs and elves, which are almost always at least implicitly mirror images of each other (the elves aloof, cerebral, magical, and usually attractive, and the orcs brutish, stupid, physical, and ugly). Dwarves are almost always present and gnomes almost as commonly, but half-dwarves and half-gnomes are definitely only present as afterthought-in-a-supplement added later if at all. Anyway, if Mookie is lifting anything from these pre-WoW depictions of half-orcs, it's probably the implied omnipresent sexual violence kinda buried in the background of the fantasy setting (because if nobody would willingly date a half-orc and half-orcs are "not quite as dispicable" as their parents, then...), more than it is in the Luna conventionally-attractive-person-with-tusks thing.
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RandomPauI posted:I believe in Snout.
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mookie has such a childish view of sex and love. i know it's been said countless times and we've all talked about it, but it's super gross that he keeps conflating infatuation with love. i think we've all had fantasies about people we wouldn't normally be with, but any adult should know that that doesn't equate to love. sometimes i read this comic and think 'eh, it's bad but he was like 13' and then i remember no.. no, he was in his 20's when he wrote this, and he's pushing 40ish now right? and he's still writing from the perspective of a freshman who saw a side boob for the first time.
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May 31, 2021 21:35
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He's married, I believe.
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Zereth posted:He's married, I believe. He married during the original run. Have we gotten to that point yet? Not that we will see a shift in how female characters are written
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PoptartsNinja posted:He had a themed wedding. Well, a Halloween wedding with costumes. Not as mockworthy of a theme as some weddings I've seen on Facebook by very distant acquaintances. Why do I remember that? I swear I'm not webdogging him.
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I remember it too, because the wedding pictures got posted in the thread and people read way too much into the facial expressions his wife was making in them to assume that she actually totally hated him and the wedding.
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Billy Gnosis posted:He married during the original run. Have we gotten to that point yet? Not that we will see a shift in how female characters are written I'm pretty sure Mookie's wedding coincided with Dominic's wedding
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Doesn't he have kids, even?
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IIRC he has a son, and listed his son being home 24/7 as one of the reasons he had to go stay in a cabin for a week.
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Diving into his family life any further than "they exist" is uncomfortable territory for me.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Diving into his family life any further than "they exist" is uncomfortable territory for me. Yeah, I don't want to sign onto anything like this, especially if it leads to theory posting about how they all secretly hate him. I just want to leave it at hoping that they're all happy and okay!
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Mx. posted:those old deegan readthroughs are great, really the best thing in the thread Lemme try and get us back on track. This is so poorly conveyed, I thought it was supposed to be snowing in the second picture.
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Wait, it's not snowing in the second picture?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Diving into his family life any further than "they exist" is uncomfortable territory for me. He posted that publicly on his Twitter but yeah I get ya, we should back off.
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My point in bringing up his kid is, the guy has had sex at least once. There's pretty irrefutable proof there. And he still approaches it like... this.
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He probably didn't have a kid at the time he was doing this part of DD, since as someone mentioned his real life wedding happened a little bit before Dominic's wedding in the comic, which we won't get to for a while. Anyway, Mookie seemed like he was trying to do a more sex positive relationship with Greg and Pam, since unlike Dominic and Luna he's very much been playing up the whole "Pam has weird kinks and Greg is all over that," the problem is that while it seems sex positive she frequently gets punished for being openly sexual. Like when she wore the skimpy outfit during the Battle for Barthis and a bunch of guys immediately showed up and saw her, or when she went out without underwear on and Quilt scryed up her dress while talking loudly about it. And despite Greg being openly sexual he's the guy who gets crushed by the SEX hammer from DOWN TOWN EROSSUS and talks about how boring it was because "sex was everywhere there was just nothing special about it anymore." Which almost could have worked, if it had been "I didn't care about it because I'm in a relationship with Pam, and while I saw some attractive women I'm faithful to her," but it was more "There was no allure! No mystique! I never cared about Rachel because she was openly sexual but Pam is hot because she's secretly sexual!" The thing is when we've seen Pam and Luna being punished for being sexual they weren't doing it openly. Like, Luna thought she and Dominic were home alone when she did the latest thing and Dominic's mom just happened to show up a couple of hours early. Pam thought she was alone with Greg when she wore the kinky outfit, people just happened to come in needing healing and saw her. So it's not even "Women must appear pure publicly and keep the sex stuff private," it really just comes across as "Women should never be sexual of their own free will, they should only do it when men request it." And what's really wild is he used to do the announcing for burlesque shows, which I have no idea how he squared that with the views he seems to express about sex through his comic.
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I meant his really weird approach to it in Legacy and with his horrible limp non-porn.
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Who What Now posted:IIRC he has a son, and listed his son being home 24/7 as one of the reasons he had to go stay in a cabin for a week. Also to be fair to the man.. loving same.
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Twelve by Pies posted:And what's really wild is he used to do the announcing for burlesque shows, which I have no idea how he squared that with the views he seems to express about sex through his comic. Mookie's a weird nerd with hosed up views on sex. I don't think it's hard to imagine that as much as he - whether or not he realizes it - fantasizes about women being punished for being sexual, he is still the sort of person who - like most heterosexual men, especially in their early 20s - would be pretty hype and excited when faced with the prospect of seeing attractive ladies being sexual IRL. Especially since, IIRC, these were his friends and he wasn't just some rando the burlesque group hired? Wasn't he friends with one of the women first and that's how he got the job? Like part of what makes Mookie's sexual hang-ups so creepy and uncomfortable, in my opinion at least, is just that; they're not kinks or fetishes he's actively aware of; they're weird hang-ups he's ignorant of because he lacks anything resembling introspection. If Mookie was open about his fetishes I don't think the comic would be half as creepy.
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Dabir posted:I meant his really weird approach to it in Legacy and with his horrible limp non-porn. Ah. Well, he still hasn't approached it yet in Legacy, technically. I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean for the naked cuddling with Ink Witch/corpsemom to be sexual. It definitely is and that's why it comes off really loving weird, but he hasn't actively thought to address sexuality in the comic yet. In fact I sort of feel like if you mentioned how weirdly sexual those scenes were he'd probably just say that nudity isn't the same as sex and you shouldn't conflate the two. The limp non-porn that he does on the side though, yeah, I got nothing for that. I can understand the desire to put things like emotion and physical intimacy that isn't sex as the focus of a work, and I think exploring that is cool and good, but just copying a painting and providing no context to anything doesn't achieve that. Plus, even if you do want to explore emotional themes behind sex and physical attraction, the dudes depicted in the works should probably have boners. Twelve by Pies fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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Twelve by Pies posted:Ah. Well, he still hasn't approached it yet in Legacy, technically. I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean for the naked cuddling with Ink Witch/corpsemom to be sexual. It definitely is and that's why it comes off really loving weird, but he hasn't actively thought to address sexuality in the comic yet. In fact I sort of feel like if you mentioned how weirdly sexual those scenes were he'd probably just say that nudity isn't the same as sex and you shouldn't conflate the two. The failure to consider it as sexuality is an approach to sexuality.
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Sometimes the embarrassment stuff reads almost like fetish material on its own (because well it is a fetish) but with Luna it was played for stupid sitcom laughs and with the nurse it was played... disturbingly. Where it gets kinda nasty is the women who are consistently sexual and open are commonly evil and more severely punished. There's a real madonna/whore thing going on.
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Snout spent like a day fainting in the countryside not over questions of why he came so far from home, whether this journey was worth it, who his friends really are. None of those questions. Just the question of why he lets social media's judgments affect him so much. Projecting so hard Mookie could be a drive in theater.
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Wait. I just had a thought. Mookie knows about us, and this comic is a meta commentary. Snout is him, Sunflower is his Twitter followers, and we're Daxethar.
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[the I am Sparticus scene] I am Daxethar!
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That scribbled-over jpg can't actually be the background of that comic. You're messing with us.
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lol Snout isn't ugly now and is totally an anime Also don't we already know the legacy of Deegan? Like this comic can stop now.
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Calling it, snout is the last of the deegan clan somehow.
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