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flakeloaf posted:and they were just shoehorning it into the cfaa because... um... *waves arms frantically* A COMPUTER ? yeah, prosecutors love charging cfaa violations because it’s incredibly easy to make a compelling case that somebody had no legitimate reason to do a particular access. why make a hard case when you can make an easy one? the basic legal question here is when something “exceeds authorized access”. basically, does that rope in arbitrary policy violations, like “it’s illegal do anything your aren’t supposed to do”, or is it a more basic level of “authorized”, like “don’t bypass system protections”
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Clark Nova posted:I wonder if the percentage of electricity wasted on norton/macaffee antivirus pegging everyone’s CPU at 100% in the 90’s/2000’s ever approached the percentage currently wasted on mining crypto be a good one for reddit's they did the math thing
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duz posted:thats a good ruling and a weird split in the decision the split makes sense to me, it’s basically liberals+young people
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cinci zoo sniper posted:the split makes sense to me, it’s basically liberals+young people that does make sense when its put that way https://twitter.com/tedfrank/status/1399802106643636228
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rjmccall posted:i mean accepting a bribe as a police officer is definitely a federal crime, it’s not like this guy is walking free currently facing a retrial on 1 other charge of “honest services fraud” so very possibly he’s walking free for now
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SporkOfTruth posted:lmao of course the underlying case defends a cop's "right" to stalk people why would the FBI need to bribe people for access to the license plate database  i legitimately thought that for a whole 30 seconds before I realized the sting operation was on the officer, not just some case the FBI was working on
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hobbesmaster posted:feds love using the cfaa for random stuff. their mistake was running into someone with a union that would pay for appeals I have a friend who spent a year in federal prison since it was that or roll the dice on the full weight of the CFAA.
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Ok, fess up, which one of you is this. https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1400543559531569152?s=20
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wow truly fortunate the hackers saved their hacks to my_hacks.txt
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:wow truly fortunate the hackers saved their hacks to my_hacks.txt without documentation how do you itemize the invoice?
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https://twitter.com/kevincollier/status/1400875731505274888 womp womp
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Are we still talking about the usual kind of encrypt-your-data ransomware? That would suggest that all of these affected orgs have bad backup and restore practices in addition to the security faults. Why not start with fixing those? It will be a lot faster than changing legislation.
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xtal posted:Are we still talking about the usual kind of encrypt-your-data ransomware? That would suggest that all of these affected orgs have bad backup and restore practices in addition to the security faults. Why not start with fixing those? It will be a lot faster than changing legislation. I believe that's the normal type, though some modern variants also transmit a copy of the data to the gang so they can sell it or blackmail the target later.
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xtal posted:Are we still talking about the usual kind of encrypt-your-data ransomware? That would suggest that all of these affected orgs have bad backup and restore practices in addition to the security faults. Yes. quote:Why not start with fixing those? It will be a lot faster than changing legislation. https://twitter.com/UserInputSucks/status/1132904286415929345?s=20
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xtal posted:Are we still talking about the usual kind of encrypt-your-data ransomware? That would suggest that all of these affected orgs have bad backup and restore practices in addition to the security faults. Why not start with fixing those? It will be a lot faster than changing legislation. "how about you fix your things so you don't get hacked / don't get ruined if you're hacked" has been the going line out of pretty much everyone everywhere for like, what, 40 years or something? it's going great so far and i think this time they might actually listen if we wish hard enough
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And if not, hey, bonus year of Free Credit Monitoring!
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Shame Boy posted:"how about you fix your things so you don't get hacked / don't get ruined if you're hacked" has been the going line out of pretty much everyone everywhere for like, what, 40 years or something? it's going great so far and i think this time they might actually listen if we wish hard enough Fixing your things is the only thing that's ever worked, though. Whatever legislation you're talking about isn't even going to help if the hole is still there and can be exploited in other ways.
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i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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I'm really surprised crypto didn't become completely illegal like, two years ago.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first.
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Kind of hosed up to willfully give bad security advice because it affects your pet political issue. Good thing you aren't developing vaccines or anything.
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Kind of hosed up to make a joke on the dead gay computer forum
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look SOME people have their entire retirement fund and self worth invested into computer money ok
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xtal posted:Kind of hosed up to willfully give bad security advice because it affects your pet political issue. Good thing you aren't developing vaccines or anything. Killing Bitcoin really does seem like a pretty big net positive for the future of humanity though, much like vaccines killing diseases.
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xtal posted:Kind of hosed up to willfully give bad security advice because it affects your pet political issue. Good thing you aren't developing vaccines or anything. stopping climate change is an existential issue, not a political one. non-pow cryptos either waste other resources (chia lol) or they’re literally a pos, so there’s no reason to exempt them from the extremely necessary ban. I’m sorry your identity is tied up in a bad thing, xtal, but you can get over it, there are therapists who specialise in cult deprogramming.
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Soricidus posted:stopping climate change is an existential issue, not a political one. If you make it a political issue, it is one.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Denmark has a climate law that makes it mandatory that, irrespective of which coalition of parties have the majority, the greenhouse gas emissions has to be reduced by 70% of what the level was in 1990, by 2030. It also mandates that Denmark must be climate neutral by 2050. looks like it doesn't mention any penalties or specific actions, just lays out principles and says that a climate commission will write reports for a minister who then sets goals
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Progressive JPEG posted:looks like it doesn't mention any penalties or specific actions, just lays out principles and says that a climate commission will write reports for a minister who then sets goals The point was to get a binding law that would oblige the the current and future governments to work on this, so that they can't behave like like other nations have, where they all go to Copenhagen, have drinks and agree that they need to dosomething, then go home and do absolutely nothing.
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flakeloaf posted:*waves arms frantically* A COMPUTER ? holy gently caress!
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i really must insist no one goes through with this just-fix-it plan before we have a chance to parlay this into a ban on cryptocurrencies first. ah yes, making something illegal is sure to stop it, just like the it did for selling drugs, prostitution, murder and money laundering
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go play outside Skyler posted:ah yes, making something illegal is sure to stop it, just like the it did for selling drugs, prostitution, murder and money laundering 
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