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I think the movie will probably be alright. It won't be sopranos level, but trying to read the quality of a movie from the trailer is a fools game
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I can't remember the last time I saw a horror movie trailer that wasn't actively grating, yet there are good horror movies.
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Jul 1, 2021 00:09
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For what it's worth, Matt Zoller Seitz' spoiler free take implies that the advertising so far doesn't indicate a whole lot about what the movie will be. https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1409996373303439362?s=19
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Gaius Marius posted:I think the movie will probably be alright. It won't be sopranos level, but trying to read the quality of a movie from the trailer is a fools game That’s definitely the sane and correct take, but also there’s not much other sopranos news to talk about at the moment, so I don’t mind the deep dive
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Jul 1, 2021 01:16
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CPFortest posted:For what it's worth, Matt Zoller Seitz' spoiler free take implies that the advertising so far doesn't indicate a whole lot about what the movie will be. Oh, so it's Made in America all over again! 
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Jul 1, 2021 01:29
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someone set the trailer to Dont Stop Believin and end it on that Holstens shot
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Jul 1, 2021 01:48
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Look at it this way, even if the movie is trash. Still gives you an excuse to rewatch the Sopranos
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Jul 1, 2021 04:05
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This is probably one of those Inglourious Bastards type situations where the trailers were all Brad Pitt and machine guns and then everybody was like "WTF it's about some French woman or something."
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Jul 1, 2021 04:52
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indiscriminately posted:Tony never struck me as being particularly bright or adept. He leads by being supremely intimidating. And lucky. And still he dies young. tbf dying would be the best possible outcome for him at that point
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Jul 1, 2021 06:37
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Gaius Marius posted:I think the movie will probably be alright. It won't be sopranos level, but trying to read the quality of a movie from the trailer is a fools game Personally I'm hoping for mostly competent fan service ála the Deadwood movie
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Jul 1, 2021 11:31
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I don't remember it coming up in the thread but I stumbled upon an article about a 3 part documentary called Celebrating the Sopranos https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/celebrating-the-sopranos-review/ Anybody seen it?
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Jul 1, 2021 12:37
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thank you King MZS for easing my fears
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Jul 1, 2021 13:07
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I'm setting my expectations very low from a director whose 21st century film career entirely centred around making the worst Marvel movie and the worst Terminator movie. His TV credits look pretty good though.
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't remember it coming up in the thread but I stumbled upon an article about a 3 part documentary called Celebrating the Sopranos Wasn't this some kinda exclusive limited release or something.
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Jul 1, 2021 16:36
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Bedshaped posted:I'm setting my expectations very low from a director whose 21st century film career entirely centred around making the worst Marvel movie and the worst Terminator movie. Alan Taylor's a TV director, and would have been hired on those films to just take instruction and manage the set. Realistically, he would likely have had very little input on those films.
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Jul 1, 2021 16:53
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The worst Marvel movie and the worst Terminator movie? 
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Gaius Marius posted:Look at it this way, even if the movie is trash. Still gives you an excuse to rewatch the Sopranos I'm doing this right now. Just started yesterday. drat, Nancy Marchand is so good and perfect as Tony's mom. Farmiga's got some big fuckin shoes to fill.
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Jul 1, 2021 20:12
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I just spent 30 seconds trying to figure out if Andy Daly had a new character.
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Human Tornada posted:This is probably one of those Inglourious Bastards type situations where the trailers were all Brad Pitt and machine guns and then everybody was like "WTF it's about some French woman or something." Reminds of the lady who sued Nicolas Winding Refn because the trailers for Drive made her think it was just Ryan Gosling looking hot and driving around in cool cars
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I think it's going to end up showing the Dicky pushed Tony into the mob. The point with the high IQ poo poo is to show that he had potential outside of the mob. He could have been just that guy "selling furniture off the highway" (Finnerty), but instead intentionally followed Dicky, a mistake which he spends the rest of his life trying to justify (doing it for his kids etc)
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I have faith in David Chase. I think the movie will be good, although without Gandolfini it won't feel very Sopranos. I'm on my annual rewatch and just astounded at the level of acting and screen presence he brings.
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Jul 2, 2021 04:48
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Gandolfini is in it
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Jul 2, 2021 04:54
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night slime posted:Gandolfini is in it 
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Jul 2, 2021 06:02
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Also tony 100% kills Dicky.
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Jul 2, 2021 07:30
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That's what I came away thinking from For All Debts Public and Private.
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Jul 2, 2021 08:54
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I just finished that episode. If you believe the cop, it makes me wonder would he have done the same to Vin Makazian had he survived to retirement? No more leverage against him anymore.
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I don't think I really buy Tony being an underachieving gifted kid, so it feels like a retcon to me. He had a level of cunning to him, but he definitely didn't remind me of any former gifted kids I've known, and I've known some who've tried to downplay their intelligence to get along in different peer groups. If it makes for a good story in this movie, who gives a poo poo I guess--the series still exists as a distinct whole regardless of what this movie says. Edit: Okay, being slightly more fair, it might just be that the series itself was really inconsistent about his intelligence, partially for the sake of humor, so he'd be sharp in some episodes but send a letter to Melfi with basic spelling errors and misuse words in others. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Sinteres posted:I don't think I really buy Tony being an underachieving gifted kid, so it feels like a retcon to me. He had a level of cunning to him, but he definitely didn't remind me of any former gifted kids I've known, and I've known some who've tried to downplay their intelligence to get along in different peer groups. If it makes for a good story in this movie, who gives a poo poo I guess--the series still exists as a distinct whole regardless of what this movie says. Tony's talked about his IQ test, and the coach dream with the guy from the Wire season 2 talks about how he thought Tony was special. Also gifted kids a lot of time run into major problems later in life and that kinda fits Tony in the show.
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Matt Zerella posted:Tony's talked about his IQ test, and the coach dream with the guy from the Wire season 2 talks about how he thought Tony was special. Yeah that's why I revised it to being about an inconsistency within the show rather than the movie just being inconsistent with the show. The guy's pretty loving stupid sometimes, and not just in a "semester and a half of college" way.
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Tony isn't a complete moron, but his idiocy comes from how as the years go by, he loses his self awareness about himself and his life. The whole point of the Test Dream episode is that the ultimate reveal is just that he expressed interest in coaching sports teams while in high school. It's such a banal fact but giving everything that's going on with Tony at that point in Season 5, it tells you everything about the damage the mob life has done to him.
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I've been thinking and I apologize for my use of fowl language in regards to yourself. You said some very hurtful things to me in regards to myself. But it is still no excuse to use the vile word that I used, of which I am sure you know that I'm talking about. You don't wish us to be social friends and so that is that. I still have great rigard for you, even though you said some horrible things. P. S. I'm doing fine Anthony
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Yeah the whole point of talking about Tony's intelligence and athletic potential isn't to say that the mafia stole his bright future as the first NFL player to win a Nobel Prize. It's that in addition to coming from a mafia background, he comes from a place where people stew over petty resentments about things that happened decades ago and use these insecurities as leverage over each other. He's Livia and Junior's son, metaphorically speaking. The moment I knew there was no hope for Tony was when Janice talks about how she's getting somewhere in therapy, and learning to be a good partner and stepmother. Tony instantly fills to the brim with jealous resentment and starts teasing her about her estranged son. It's very very far from the worst thing he's ever done, but it shows how he's so insecure that he can't just sit in a room with his family and make small talk without years of resentment coming to the forefront in a matter of minutes.
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Writing is pretty hard and it seems to be one of those skills that need consistent practice. People who don't do any writing in their day-to-day lose the ability. See: forwards from grandma, chaotic boomer correspondence.
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Halloween Jack posted:Yeah the whole point of talking about Tony's intelligence and athletic potential isn't to say that the mafia stole his bright future as the first NFL player to win a Nobel Prize. It's that in addition to coming from a mafia background, he comes from a place where people stew over petty resentments about things that happened decades ago and use these insecurities as leverage over each other. He's Livia and Junior's son, metaphorically speaking. Sacrebleu, where is me mama?
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Jul 2, 2021 17:14
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I feel like that scene would pack a bigger punch if he wasn't named Harpo.
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Halloween Jack posted:The moment I knew there was no hope for Tony was when Janice talks about how she's getting somewhere in therapy, and learning to be a good partner and stepmother. Tony instantly fills to the brim with jealous resentment and starts teasing her about her estranged son. It's very very far from the worst thing he's ever done, but it shows how he's so insecure that he can't just sit in a room with his family and make small talk without years of resentment coming to the forefront in a matter of minutes.
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Vichan posted:Sacrebleu, where is me mama? Whichever goon said there should be a small child saying that in the post-credit scene earlier in the thread gave me an amazing laugh, because I am a terrible person.
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