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DrVenkman posted:Something about this is so depressing to me. I've heard of that podcast and I can't imagine it's covering any new ground in terms of criticism of James Bond. There have been parodies of the character's ideology and mannerisms for almost as long as the he's existed. It's something that could be fun to talk about in a single episode of something but not as the premise for an entire podcast.
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i mean i love james bond movies but part of the fun of the series is that they're like 85% dogshit so i don't really have a problem with the concept
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I haven't listened to the podcast but I assume they're basically viewing Bond as the avatar of 20th century British imperialism, which is a pretty valid lens through which to view them. And at least two of those host are trans chicks, so they'd probably have interesting takes on Bond as a symbol of masculinity. And there's like 50 Bond movies, so it's not like there's a shortage of material. I'm not a massive fan of Alice or Philosophytube and I don't care about James Bond so I'm not gonna listen to it, but I'm not sure why you guys are acting like the whole thing is inherently bad.
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Some people just like to dunk on a thing with no aspirations of insight. e: Bond is fun because it's an experiment of remixing the same elements over and over again every few years and coming up with era-specific results, from earnest to meta to ironic in nature. Yeah, they lean on misogyny and exoticism and that's bad and you're welcome to dismiss them for those reasons, but it's a unique and fascinating series because of that, not in spite of it. Half the fun of a new Bond movie is seeing how they try really hard to make a drunken sex-crazed government agent with a penchant for murder who protects a corrupt monarchy an engaging, relatable protagonist this time. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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feedmyleg posted:Some people just like to dunk on a thing with no aspirations of insight. Are you talking about the podcast or people who are mad about the podcast?
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I mean, I could be talking about anything from the past 133 pages, couldn't I?
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Gripweed posted:Are you talking about the podcast or people who are mad about the podcast? I'm not mad about the podcast, just saying that it didn't sound interesting to me personally.
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Flying Zamboni posted:I'm not mad about the podcast, just saying that it didn't sound interesting to me personally. I don't care about James Bond and I think Alice kinda ruins Well There's Your Problem, so I'm not interested in the podcast either. But it's a couple of leftwing British trans ladies doing a deep dive on what has been the symbol of British manhood and imperialism for the past 70 years. I bet that they actually do come up with some novel and interesting stuff about the character and the franchise.
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If anything "ruins" Well There's Your Problem, it's Roz's complete lack of editing.
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Gripweed posted:I don't care about James Bond and I think Alice kinda ruins Well There's Your Problem, so I'm not interested in the podcast either. But it's a couple of leftwing British trans ladies doing a deep dive on what has been the symbol of British manhood and imperialism for the past 70 years. I bet that they actually do come up with some novel and interesting stuff about the character and the franchise. I can guarantee you they do not provide any insight that wasn't already provided in like the 70s when people were writing the exact same things about Bond that people have been repeating ever since. Just with added how-can-anyone-like-this scolding. I'm as guilty for enjoying a good tear-down as anyone else, but there's something so joyless about the modern version of Cinema Sins meets Tumblr.
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But anyway, let's have something we can all agree with. https://twitter.com/ElSoderbergho/status/1410102291114434561?s=19
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lol I'm so tired of people repeating these tired criticisms of a popular movie franchise! We've heard them all already, get over it! Goddamnit! Anyway, let's get back to some proper movie discussion. Check out this dude dunking on Marvel movies!
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Gripweed posted:lol Jerking yourself into a frenzy there friend, making barely coherent points. Nevertheless, you took the shot and we can all move on now. Have a bit of proper movie discussion.
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DrVenkman posted:Jerking yourself into a frenzy there friend, making barely coherent points. Nevertheless, you took the shot and we can all move on now. Have a bit of proper movie discussion. My points were completely coherent and I'm willing to keep arguing about this.
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DrVenkman posted:But anyway, let's have something we can all agree with. That's loving awesome.
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If yall want to have proper movie discussion or whatever there's a new movie of the month thread up, posted by Twernt. Go enjoy that
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A funny transwoman British Muslim dunking on James Bond is probably good, Soderbergh dunking on the Russos is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0Qda32IKM
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DrVenkman posted:But anyway, let's have something we can all agree with. Here's something positive about Infinity War: It wasn't Ocean's Twelve.
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Really though James Bond should die.
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You can understand that Bond and Marvel movies are deeply flawed and enjoy them. It’s also okay if you don’t want to spend hours of your life listening to someone dump on something, even if you agree with them.
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Davros1 posted:Here's something positive about Infinity War: It wasn't Ocean's Twelve. Wasn't it, though? Was it really not Ocean's Twelve?
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Grendels Dad posted:Wasn't it, though? Was it really not Ocean's Twelve? It was all three Ocean's films at once.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It was all three Ocean's films at once. Ocean's 36?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i mean i love james bond movies but part of the fun of the series is that they're like 85% dogshit so i don't really have a problem with the concept But I’d rather listen to someone like you who likes the series but agrees is dogshit (and same tbh) because a podcast about making GBS threads on something blows.
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There is new promotional material for the new Space Jam movie and it is worse than you expected. Yes, worse than that: https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1410634202693967876
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There is absolutely nothing you could do to get me to click on that play button.
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therattle posted:Ocean's 36? This is erasure of whatever number the All Women Ocean's # had.
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I clicked it for you. You get the joke without clicking it. Except it adds a Twitter reference. Which is trash.
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Have we gotten to the point where we've gone without a Matrix parody for so long (because we were all loving sick of them by 2004) that it's wrapped around and it's now fresh again? I have to somehow rationalize it otherwise I'd just be screaming. Ultimately: it doesn't matter what's in the movie, it's going to make a billion dollars anyway. caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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Grendels Dad posted:This is erasure of whatever number the All Women Ocean's # had. Not me! Hundu referenced three films. Blame them.
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CelticPredator posted:But I’d rather listen to someone like you who likes the series but agrees is dogshit (and same tbh) because a podcast about making GBS threads on something blows. i think the issue is just that we don't need another bad movie podcast, i have to agree with the seeming consensus that We Hate Movies has that covered
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caligulamprey posted:Have we gotten to the point where we've gone without a Matrix parody for so long (because we were all loving sick of them by 2004) that it's wrapped around and it's now fresh again? Probably? There are a lot of young adults now who were still in their infancy when the Matrix parody fad died out.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i think the issue is just that we don't need another bad movie podcast, i have to agree with the seeming consensus that We Hate Movies has that covered Agreed.
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Roth posted:I'm sure people have noticed by now, but just in case MacheteZombie asked me to co-mod Cine D with him and I said yes
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feedmyleg posted:There is absolutely nothing you could do to get me to click on that play button.
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Best bad movie podcast is the flop house imo
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Davros1 posted:Here's something positive about Infinity War: It wasn't Ocean's Twelve. Supremely confident and competent antagonist succeeds in main plot only to discover the plucky characters had defeated him before anything he did actually counted
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Supremely confident and competent antagonist succeeds in main plot only to discover the plucky characters had defeated him before anything he did actually counted The plot is resolved by swapping the Maguffin with a fake before the antagonist gets a chance to steal it.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Supremely confident and competent antagonist succeeds in main plot only to discover the plucky characters had defeated him before anything he did actually counted pospysyl posted:The plot is resolved by swapping the Maguffin with a fake before the antagonist gets a chance to steal it. Oh! Oh! Let me try! Don Cheadle is in it
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