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Boxturret posted:lol remember when the ransomware scammers had to provide a support line to help people through the bitcoin process “hello, this is Tim with darkphoenix h4ck support, how can I help you this evening?”
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i think there was a case where the scammers had to unlock the computer for free because they just couldn't get the bitcoin to work
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Boxturret posted:i think there was a case where the scammers had to unlock the computer for free because they just couldn't get the bitcoin to work That's good for bitcoin.
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Boxturret posted:i think there was a case where the scammers had to unlock the computer for free because they just couldn't get the bitcoin to work "if they have a bad customer service experience, they might not trust us the next time we extort them"
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KnifeWrench posted:"if they have a bad customer service experience, they might not trust us the next time we extort them" this is why Somali piracy was so lucrative, it’s The Cost Of Doing Business and there was no incentive for the pirates to do anything but wait for a check to arrive from an oil or shipping company
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squirrelzipper posted:“hello, this is Tim with darkphoenix h4ck support, how can I help you this evening?” There also was (is?) a cottage industry of tech support scammers who pretend to be ransomware tech support, but actually try to fool you into sending your bitcoins/Google Play cards to them instead.
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Boxturret posted:i think there was a case where the scammers had to unlock the computer for free because they just couldn't get the bitcoin to work I don’t remember where it was, but I remember it was a rural hospital and the illegal encryption providers didn’t actually “target” the old OS’s on the lab/ER computers and some folks almost died. The hackers had more money than the hospital and ended up releasing the hold as a sort of “the bot did the search and attack automatically and we didn’t mean for it to happen” Public Relations reasons.
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KnifeWrench posted:"if they have a bad customer service experience, they might not trust us the next time we extort them" internet providers sitting back and laughing at how easy it is
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Paladinus posted:There also was (is?) a cottage industry of tech support scammers who pretend to be ransomware tech support, but actually try to fool you into sending your bitcoins/Google Play cards to them instead. it’s just grift and scams in every possible direction but I do have to admit admiration for this particular angle, cause it’s got a certain purity. like an evolutionary quality.
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Luigi Thirty posted:this is why Somali piracy was so lucrative, it’s The Cost Of Doing Business and there was no incentive for the pirates to do anything but wait for a check to arrive from an oil or shipping company in the shipowners defence, it’s not like they had a lot of options captain philips got rescued because he’s American, most of the crews that got taken hostage were from the Philippines, India or other developing nations without a subscription to seal team six
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ADINSX posted:He was just the worst. My first memory of him coming on the team was an discussion/argument that didn't involve me (but was happening at a whiteboard near by). He was just a few days in but didn't like how we had implemented something, so without buy-in from the team, or running it by PMs or having it as part of our sprint he just decided he would throw out the old stuff and rewrite it. J-J-J-J Unit!
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FrozenVent posted:in the shipowners defence, it’s not like they had a lot of options there’s a wiki page listing hostages in various countries and people from the US/UK seem to constantly die in botched rescues while other countries write a check to some militants and they get released
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isn’t there some official policy of not paying ransoms?
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Oh no I didn't screenshot Mr Bad Take and now he's hiding
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Penisface posted:isn’t there some official policy of not paying ransoms? insurance companies have no such scruples no seriously if you send a ship through the piracy area you have to get “kidnap and ransom” insurance, basically if your crew gets jacked they negotiate with the pirates and pay them nowadays you also get armed guards, so like three dudes with SKS rifles
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Chalks posted:how is baby doge hehe
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FrozenVent posted:insurance companies have no such scruples and apparently those dudes often just chuck the rifles into the sea when the boat nears its destination because most countries aren't too keen on random ships with armed folks on them pulling into their ports
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Shifty Pony posted:and apparently those dudes often just chuck the rifles into the sea when the boat nears its destination because most countries aren't too keen on random ships with armed folks on them pulling into their ports nah they stopped doing that, now they have “motherships” that hang out in international waters and pick up the guards when you get out of the high risk area
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I guess this works if you toss the illegal stuff on another mothership when one of them has to go to port somewhere isn’t capitalism efficient
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FrozenVent posted:insurance companies have no such scruples it's been a thing for people traveling to parts of central/south america, africa and middle east for a long time. basically anywhere unstable, corrupt and/or with active guerilla groups who can make good money from kidnapping foreigners
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The_Franz posted:it's been a thing for people traveling to parts of central/south america, africa and middle east for a long time. basically anywhere unstable, corrupt and/or with active guerilla groups who can make good money from kidnapping foreigners A friend's company was trying to abide to their strict anti-corruption policies during their International Women's Leadership conference that they held in South America. So they refused to pay any local fixers or shell out any kind of protection money. Two of the conference attendees ended up getting kidnapped.
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squirrelzipper posted:it’s just grift and scams in every possible direction
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LanceHunter posted:A friend's company was trying to abide to their strict anti-corruption policies during their International Women's Leadership conference that they held in South America. So they refused to pay any local fixers or shell out any kind of protection money. Two of the conference attendees ended up getting kidnapped. and they didn't have to spend any money paying any bribes or hiring anyone, i'm not sure what the problem is here
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LanceHunter posted:A friend's company was trying to abide to their strict anti-corruption policies during their International Women's Leadership conference that they held in South America. So they refused to pay any local fixers or shell out any kind of protection money. Two of the conference attendees ended up getting kidnapped. I remember doing some mandatory anti bribery training and one of the questions was about getting stopped at a border and asked for a payment to 'facilitate the border process' or whatever and everybody got that question wrong because the 'correct' one was 'no I would refuse and contact the compliance team so as to ensure I did not give the appearance of bribing a government official'. contrast that to when I had a temp job years back for a mining company and they were bribing all sorts of people
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it’s me the person facing border officials with guns and a right to detain me and I’m going to whip out my phone in a “no phones” zone to call hr
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i guess if this really happens and I am doing company business then I have already lost the game at this point
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my training when I worked at a bank specifically said it was only ok to pay a bribe if you thought your physical safety was in immediate danger, also there was a specific expense form you could fill out to get reimbursed
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hell even working in fast food we're told if think you're being threatened just give them whatever they want
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I eagerly cannot await the hyperbitcoinzation and the arrive of be your own anti-corruption officer.
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my new RacketCoin facilitates a frictionless protection scheme for you and your business. if at any time you or an an asset feels threatened, RacketCoin will automatically bribe your would-be assailant with the ideally negotiated rate to guarantee your safety and security. 7 confirmations per transaction are suggested to prevent double spending of hostage ransoms. confirmation times may vary between instantaneous and indefinite - please be patient with the network and your captors during this period
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i like that even though it's ostensibly about black people defending their xbox-laden metaphorical house, it's still structured to have some weird-rear end dogwhistling for no reason
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stormportcoin when you're on the seven seas shipping cheap chinese poo poo to assholes landside. Use it to pay for each other's pirASSy cuz it gets real lonely and who is to judge when you need motion in the ocean. Any port in a storm Lots of seamen use stormportcoin and much like that FN FAL you leave it before shore
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it can only go up uP UP
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i heard that it is difficult to mine x-box ore, because it is very bulky
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qirex posted:my training when I worked at a bank specifically said it was only ok to pay a bribe if you thought your physical safety was in immediate danger, also there was a specific expense form you could fill out to get reimbursed yeah this makes more sense but then I don’t work for a bank and the compliance training we get is the minimum we can get away with
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines
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