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isnt that source a pre-launch interview where they said they were looking into it and knew the logistics but werent sure about it lol
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Cleretic posted:So what's an Axl's game plan against a Chipp? It feels like he's just faster than every single one of my buttons, I get stomped by one every time they turn up. use Axl's time powers to retrieve his DP from xrd
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yes as a PC player I love cross play! bring on the wifi warriors
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Jul 6, 2021 19:15
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Wifi players are already on PC.
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anime was right posted:isnt that source a pre-launch interview where they said they were looking into it and knew the logistics but werent sure about it lol The source interview looks to be from 7/4. But it's Tumblr so I'm not 100% sure the exact time frame. quote:the developer confirmed that PC-to-consoles cross-play is in the “verification process” Not sure how long that process is for Sony, but sounds like they approved it... But I'm assuming verification step comes after initial approval. Keegers fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 6, 2021 |
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from what i remember the intitial pre launch interviews never said anything more concrete than 'ya crossplay would be cool we hope to do that in the future' which is like 100% meaningless and now i take mention of some vague 'verification process' to be 50% meaningless so id call that promising progress
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lol got deranked from Floor 9 but it didn't kick me so I went 1-2 against a Chipp then 2-1 against a Millia and 3-0 against a Zato. I hope winning against higher-floor opponents makes it easier to rank up, and conversely, I hope if you're fighting higher floor opponents, you don't downrank as easy. I still also have no idea what this stupid red bubble with a stock market arrow on people's pages mean.
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Skypie posted:lol got deranked from Floor 9 but it didn't kick me so I went 1-2 against a Chipp then 2-1 against a Millia and 3-0 against a Zato. I hope winning against higher-floor opponents makes it easier to rank up, and conversely, I hope if you're fighting higher floor opponents, you don't downrank as easy. I think it's theoretically supposed to mean they're about to rank up but God knows. I had it on my page all last night.
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Skypie posted:lol got deranked from Floor 9 but it didn't kick me so I went 1-2 against a Chipp then 2-1 against a Millia and 3-0 against a Zato. I hope winning against higher-floor opponents makes it easier to rank up, and conversely, I hope if you're fighting higher floor opponents, you don't downrank as easy. I think only the current win/loss streak matters for floor placement. Sometimes if you rank up before your set is over, the game forgets to suggest moving you floors. Even then, you only get locked out from below, so you can always hang out on floors equal to or above your assigned floor. dhamster fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jul 6, 2021 |
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Jul 6, 2021 23:49
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Cleretic posted:So what's an Axl's game plan against a Chipp? It feels like he's just faster than every single one of my buttons, I get stomped by one every time they turn up. Abuse the range of f.S, make good reads, and pray. Same strat as gio and millia
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Sometimes after a bad run I pop into floor 9 and look for people with an up arrow then full-on loving ape mode them with my floor 7/8 badge so they don't go up and return to my floor lol
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Jul 7, 2021 01:22
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Jack Trades posted:Faust's fS has 18f of recovery, which is not reactable. Nago's fS has 28 frames of recovery, which is very reactable. not disagreeing with your point, but you have the whole startup and active frames of the move to react to, in addition to the recovery...
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anime was right posted:isnt that source a pre-launch interview where they said they were looking into it and knew the logistics but werent sure about it lol The source is a July 4 interview with "Communidad Arc System Works" which seems to exist only as a spanish-language tumblr blog (though they posted their interview in both english and spanish). ASW's exact response on the crossplay question: CASW posted:Last but not least, the next step would be cross play so all the community could play together. In a genre like fighting games, in which the community is the cornerstone, I feel like this should be a must have going forward. Do we have more news regarding this demanded feature? Does rollback netcode make it harder to implement crossplay between different consoles or between consoles and PC? Arcsys posted:Of course, we are always striving to accomplish this, and we are going through the verification processes for it. But there are still many practical issues like schedules and the running costs of matching servers. It will take a little more time before we can make a concrete announcement. "Going through the verification processes" sounds to me a lot like "Sony told us to gently caress off". They have a bigger market share than xbox so they've gotten in the habit of obstructing crossplay to avoid giving MS any slack. After all, if a game has no crossplay, you'll probably buy it for the console with a larger playerbase. e: Oh wait the game isn't even on xbox. PS4/PS5 crossplay will probably be "fine" but it remains to be seen how much Sony like playstation/PC crossplay. RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:e: Oh wait the game isn't even on xbox. PS4/PS5 crossplay will probably be "fine" but it remains to be seen how much Sony like playstation/PC crossplay. They love it because it lets them say they support crossplay without actually supporting it to a meaningful degree. Remember Street Fighter V?
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Jul 7, 2021 09:11
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I used to hate the Chipp MU, but my friend started maining him, and I realized that he has to be wary of reversal supers at all times. Gio's windmill kick raw does like 40%, poo poo's absurd. I further realized that Gio has a privilege in her DP being able to CH his j2K, and that most characters have to tightly time 6P or go for a heroic air throw, and I find that unfortunate for them, and understand their gripes with that character. I think someone in the thread said it earlier, but I listened to Gio's theme recently, and I agree that the misheard lyric of "I just wanna be a pretty girl with a brutish impulse" is way more badass than the actual line. I don't know if it fits the character more, but that just kind of rips to hear.
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I'm extremely patient with Chipp since I know with Leo if I can cross him once he's basically hosed and that if I can find that moment to flash kick he's going to be extremely beat up. That being said I've got no idea how to cope with his super and if I am on low health and he has meter I almost feel like I should just drop my stick lol
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Jul 7, 2021 09:42
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JBP posted:I'm extremely patient with Chipp since I know with Leo if I can cross him once he's basically hosed and that if I can find that moment to flash kick he's going to be extremely beat up. That being said I've got no idea how to cope with his super and if I am on low health and he has meter I almost feel like I should just drop my stick lol If it means anything, neither of his supers have start up invincibility. His full screen one has a long start up animation and can be stuffed beforehand, and his fast clone rush can go through projectiles, but is -20 on block. Chipp is 100% a lot, but you can punish him or let him waste his meter. If you have meter yourself, I think you can drift RC to punish his fullscreen super, but I'm not entirely sure. I'm only saying this because I ran a 3 hour set today against this stupid character, and I went from hating him to tolerating him lmao. I haven't played Leo, but his 6p seems decently speedy, and seems to have a useful angle in this MU too. I don't know if your thoughts differ though. Do you think that's a solid button to rely on here?
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Blue Labrador posted:If it means anything, neither of his supers have start up invincibility. His full screen one has a long start up animation and can be stuffed beforehand, and his fast clone rush can go through projectiles, but is -20 on block. Chipp is 100% a lot, but you can punish him or let him waste his meter. If you have meter yourself, I think you can drift RC to punish his fullscreen super, but I'm not entirely sure. My issue is that when it hits the point that I'm afraid of eating a super I can't press a button or the super comes out. It's very scary so I just commit to beating his head in early and flash kick ruins most of Chipp's openings. I usually just try to save a burst against him and not blow it on a combo. Leo's 6p is pretty good but I don't trust myself to land it under that kind of meter pressure. JBP fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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Jul 7, 2021 10:04
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Leo is the one character I feel consistently helpless against. I've never been good at dealing with crossups and that's his main gameplan so all a Leo player has to do is wait for me to inevitably gently caress up my block direction.
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Jul 7, 2021 10:18
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Blue Labrador posted:I used to hate the Chipp MU, but my friend started maining him, and I realized that he has to be wary of reversal supers at all times. Gio's windmill kick raw does like 40%, poo poo's absurd. It makes so much sense that I absolutely cannot hear it any other way.
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Blue Labrador posted:I think someone in the thread said it earlier, but I listened to Gio's theme recently, and I agree that the misheard lyric of "I just wanna be a pretty girl with a brutish impulse" is way more badass than the actual line. I don't know if it fits the character more, but that just kind of rips to hear. That misheard line definitely fits Gio. She clearly takes pride in her appearance; that 'but how will I ever find a good man' exchange in the first chapter of the story proves that. I don't even know what 'I just wanna be a trigger with a brutish impulse' means, really.
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KingShiro posted:Wifi players are already on PC. Can confirm, I'm a wifi PC player myself. On the other hand, I can't seem to discern the purpose of Chipp's alpha blade. It seems really bad considering that it doesn't appear to pass through projectiles and get stuffed by most normal moves.
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Ultima66 posted:Alright, dropped down to 8 playing against a Ky and Leo among a few other people. Got back to 9 pretty fast but I feel like there's some matchups like that where the opponent doesn't have to know what they're doing and I can't actually do poo poo, because the players that kicked me down I didn't feel like were actually any good and just constantly mashing at all times. You have to be able to throw Leo's crossup slash on reaction or you're handing him a free win. Practice in training mode if you need to. If he does get into backturn, you have to pick between pushing him out with faultless defense or challenging his attacks and both have the risk-reward stacked heavily against you. Backturn overhead is -6 on block but you have to watch out for cancel options. Ky's Foudre Arc is only + if you either crouch block it or you're in s h o c k s t a t e. Stand block and mash jab.
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Oh geeze oh gently caress. I was having a pretty good run of matches on Floor 8, and I was thinking to myself, "At this rate I'll probably go back up to 9 soon," but then I backed out of the lobby and- I'm not trying to brag or anything seeing this legitimately made me feel anxious.
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I don't know about you but when I get promoted to a new floor I'm pretty confident I won't be staying there for a while. Just accept that you'll bounce in and out of it, maybe even by more than one floor, while you're improving.
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Especially when the ranks reset and majority of the celestial are back at 10.
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guppy posted:I don't know about you but when I get promoted to a new floor I'm pretty confident I won't be staying there for a while. Just accept that you'll bounce in and out of it, maybe even by more than one floor, while you're improving. Yeah. I've made it to Floor 9 a few times, and each time I've stayed at that rank longer. It is frustrating sometimes to go on a losing streak, but I feel like I'm always learning something.
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guppy posted:I don't know about you but when I get promoted to a new floor I'm pretty confident I won't be staying there for a while. Just accept that you'll bounce in and out of it, maybe even by more than one floor, while you're improving. I can accept that, but... honesty time? I'm having a real tough time, mentally speaking, with just being dumpstered on for 10 matches straight and not winning a single round (not match, round). It's fine to lose matches when you learn something from it and it's at least somewhat even, but just getting combo'd from neutral to dead without being able to do anything at all, I just feel like the worst player in the world and makes me want to uninstall in shame. Obviously none of that is my opponents' fault, they're just playing the game, but... even if I don't care about winning, I care about having fun and feeling like I have agency, and that ain't it. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:I can accept that, but... honesty time? I'm having a real tough time, mentally speaking, with just being dumpstered on for 10 matches straight and not winning a single round (not match, round). It's fine to lose matches when you learn something from it and it's at least somewhat even, but just getting combo'd from neutral to dead without being able to do anything at all, I just feel like the worst player in the world and makes me want to uninstall in shame. Obviously none of that is my opponents' fault, they're just playing the game, but... even if I don't care about winning, I care about having fun and feeling like I have agency, and that ain't it. Running into walls is the natural flipside of anything you can have fun with. The way I see it, there's no running away from that. You gotta take the good with the bad, and learn how to use both of them. I get that it might not be fun, but think of it as a troll blocking the bridge to the fun, and it's your imperative to beat it.
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Real zen secret isn't to tough it out until you win it's to learn how to enjoy losing
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Real zen secret isn't to tough it out until you win it's to learn how to enjoy losing This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever head in my life. The secret is to WIN, and WIN more abundantly.
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You could always abandon your humanity and pick up Sol. I'm gonna do it if Baiken comes out and is bad
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Mankind knew they cannot git gud, so instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the dolphins
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I keep wanting to try other characters but I can't stop playing Leo he's too much fun.
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exquisite tea posted:This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever head in my life. The secret is to WIN, and WIN more abundantly. My angle is to come up with my own victory condition for a night of playing. I consider it a good session if I get at least one person caught in Axl's Explosion Loop.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:I can accept that, but... honesty time? I'm having a real tough time, mentally speaking, with just being dumpstered on for 10 matches straight and not winning a single round (not match, round). It's fine to lose matches when you learn something from it and it's at least somewhat even, but just getting combo'd from neutral to dead without being able to do anything at all, I just feel like the worst player in the world and makes me want to uninstall in shame. Obviously none of that is my opponents' fault, they're just playing the game, but... even if I don't care about winning, I care about having fun and feeling like I have agency, and that ain't it. Even in matches where you're getting wrecked you can take an opportunity to learn after the match. Rewatch and look for a consistent move the opponent uses to get into their poo poo. If it's extremely strong and they keep going for it, that's the kind of stuff you can practice baiting out and punishing or at least find ways to not leave yourself open to it. You can also note down the combo they're doing and replicate it in training mode to look for gaps you didn't see while in the middle of a match. Basically a replay of you getting walloped is an opportunity to learn the match up, to learn what people playing that character will fish for. TGLT fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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JBP posted:I keep wanting to try other characters but I can't stop playing Leo he's too much fun. S H S H S H S H
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I’ve started my ZATO boot camp… I now at least understand how Eddie works and all the different ways to summon him. Now I’d have work on building some basic combos or block strings with that info…. or I can just go back to Ram and hit S a bunch and win
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TGLT posted:If it's extremely strong and they keep going for it, that's the kind of stuff you can practice baiting out and punishing or at least find ways to not leave yourself open to it. I am regularly getting deleted by things like my opponent just dashing up from neutral and throwing me, followed by a combo into the corner. Or just having a poke 6P'd and I'm just dead. Heck, even trying to jump out of grabs hasn't been working after the initial bout of success because now I run into people that just block any attack on the way down, then continue doing it. Besides, after a match like that, the only thing I want to do is alt+f4. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the patience to do things like watch replays or hang out in training mode. I just want some fun games against other people who are just as bad at the game as I am. Losing is fine in a match like that, but not when I feel helpless all game.
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If you don't wanna watch replays or practice combos, at least watch high-level players win with your character and try to mimic what they do first in practice mode, then in real matches. You can learn a lot just by copying the behavior of better players, even if you don't fully understand why it works conceptually.
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