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I forget the scene but the conversation Ade and Chris have where he's like "the US is going to rule the whole world" hit me really good. someone get borko to make a "chris moltisanti, the philosopher" compilation
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Like a pebble in a lake, even the fish feel it.
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Bedshaped posted:I forget the scene but the conversation Ade and Chris have where he's like "the US is going to rule the whole world" hit me really good. But the US army hardly even goes to war anymore
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Jul 9, 2021 15:01
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He's just gonna march around a bit!
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In regards to Tony's intelligence - I always thought he was smarter than most of the other mobsters, with some exceptions (Carmine Sr, Johnny Sack, Tony B, Ralph?). He had intellectual curiosity in things outside his daily life from military history to animals, went to college, was generally more successful then his peers even as a capo ("You've seen my house."), could carry out a conversation with people from all walks of life. However, he is a big fish in a small pond because most of the other mobsters are genuinely loving stupid and he wouldn't be remarkable at all outside that life.
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Jul 9, 2021 18:29
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Tony is definitely smart, it's just his ah, extreme personality flaws that tend to obscure that like the whole thing with Little Carmine being so self-aware that he correctly identifies what makes him happy and successfully exits the mob game to swim naked in the pool and hang out with his wife who loves him reminds me of a throwaway line in Peter Watts' Blindsight -- chimpanzees are smarter than orangutans but they fail the mirror test of self-awareness while orangutans pass it
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Bedshaped posted:I forget the scene but the conversation Ade and Chris have where he's like "the US is going to rule the whole world" hit me really good. I think I saw one on youtube at one point but I can't find it. I especially love his stoned eulogy at Livia's funeral. ... Also, "you understand the human condition" to Tony.
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Pattonesque posted:like the whole thing with Little Carmine being so self-aware that he correctly identifies what makes him happy and successfully exits the mob game to swim naked in the pool and hang out with his wife who loves him Tony completely failing (or willfully refusing) to understand the point of Little Carmine's story about realizing what he truly wanted from life to be happy is incredibly well written and performed and also deeply depressing. Even just that element of wanting to save his wife from the associated stress seems completely alien to Tony at that point. That they introduced Little Carmine as the idiot comic relief and then ended up making him one of the most self-aware/psychologically well-adjusted (relatively speaking) characters really is a credit to the show.
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I like that Tony orders a philly cheesesteak and Carmine gets ahi tuna lots of symbolism in that
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That scene's very allegorical.
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Very good, Whale Vomit, I'm glad you noticed that: the sacred and the propane 
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I’ll have an Arnold Palmer. I always enjoy those and it never occurs to me to order one.
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Jerusalem posted:Very good, Whale Vomit, I'm glad you noticed that: the sacred and the propane WV realized they were at the precipice of a huge crossroads.
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A pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold.
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I can't even transcribe this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECsfY83ku6w&t=50s
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"I am reminded of Louis the whatever's finance minister, De something...he built this chateau — Nicole and I saw it when we went to Paris — it even outshone Versailles, where the king lived. In the end, Louis clapped him in irons."
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Much like a child, a film has many parents,
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Big Carm, Lil Carm and JustCarm.
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Little Carmine montage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpwtZLluu2c Also, how the hell did I never catch this blatant Godfather reference? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_IrLQeG_0&t=63s EDIT: Or this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbHUZ85SrGw Where I was wondering why Chris is watching the Little Rascals and right after he shoots up there's a monkey on his back on the TV. Sorry...went down a YT rabbit hole a bit BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I’ll have an Arnold Palmer. I always enjoy those and it never occurs to me to order one. Man, I sympathized with him right there because I'm the same way. Those rule but I don't actively think to get one unless I'm grabbing like a gas station arizona one or something.
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Thinkin’ bout the Museum of Science and Trucking. Wonder how it turned out. I always laughed every time it got mentioned but maybe it wasn’t even a joke and is exactly the type of thing that would get built in Jersey. drowningidiot fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Pattonesque posted:Tony is definitely smart, it's just his ah, extreme personality flaws that tend to obscure that If he's so smart, why can he barely write a coherent sentence?
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drowningidiot posted:Thinkin’ bout the Museum of Science and Trucking. Wonder how it turned out. They skimped on materials.
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Flesnolk posted:If he's so smart, why can he barely write a coherent sentence? I'm sure in pre-literate times there were plenty of geniuses who couldn't write Tony has never really applied himself to anything but the life, that's the whole deal with the football dream, he at one point showed some interest towards something, but in the end became what he did.
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Flesnolk posted:If he's so smart, why can he barely write a coherent sentence? Small hands that was his problem.
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Tony B had an IQ of 158. He could only be vanquished by someone of comparable IQ.
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All the nuns were raving about it.
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Bedshaped posted:Tony B had an IQ of 158. His brains looked like poo poo.
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Hey Ton, all due respect butPerilPastry posted:*Christopher voice*
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PerilPastry posted:*Christopher voice* holy poo poo lol
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PerilPastry posted:*Christopher voice* Hear what I said, Ton'?
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I'm like 5 episodes behind on the podcast and its getting harder and harder to get interested in the guest appearances. And then they go and have Ricky Gervais on I started replaying Max Payne last night and the accents on the enemies along with the character of Max himself really makes me wonder how much inspiration was drawn from the Sopranos and the Wire as well as just the Matrix.
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codo27 posted:I'm like 5 episodes behind on the podcast and its getting harder and harder to get interested in the guest appearances. And then they go and have Ricky Gervais on Atheist and former comedian Ricky Gervais!? Yeah, no thanks.
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Worst thing Janice ever did, by far, is cementing herself into Bobby's life by pressuring him to eat his wife's last ziti. It's the perfect encapsulation of her selfishness and manipulative nature.
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Never realized that Paulie had aged so badly.
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side_burned posted:Never realized that Paulie had aged so badly. You mean Tony Sirico today? He's almost 80. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxddINwarJk he wasnt acting lol
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Vasukhani posted:You mean Tony Sirico today? He's almost 80. No he's being played by Billy Magnussen in The Many Saints of Newark.
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It's brought up several times, at least once by Paulie himself, that he was the cool, strong handsome dude with big muscles when he was younger. Paulie's growing awareness that he's an old man whose body is starting to break down, that he never did and seemingly never will rise about the level of "half a wiseguy", and he has nobody to share his life with is a great part of the series: especially in those last couple episodes where you see so many of his peers are gone (it's just him and the haunted cat outside Satriale's at the end) and the younger guys are just openly mocking him now when even a guy he clashed with like Christopher only a few years earlier would still bite his tongue in frustration about Paulie's eccentricities. I mean he did better overall, but he reminds me a lot of Lefty in Donnie Brasco: a guy who has aspirations to be more but never really rose above mid-tier and maybe at most got to be part of the wider crew of other guys on their way up, and now he's old and has realized it isn't going to happen. At least Lefty has (had) a kid and a wife, Paulie didn't even have that.
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Just finished season 3 on my first rewatch of the show. It's not the most exciting season, but the ending is so bittersweet and a harbinger of doom to come. The whole Jackie Jr. drama is really quite tragic in a banal way - a dumbass kid who's left out to dry, totally abandoned by Tony, who couldn't give less of a poo poo. The funeral sparsely attended because the mobsters would rather watch the Super Bowl and keep an eye on their money. It's a running theme but another nail in the coffin of whatever romanticized idea there was of 'honor' or 'loyalty' among them. And then you get Junior showcasing his unbelievable talents, an unknown beauty he was capable of that was belied by his exterior - but everyone else is hearing something else - the kids don't respect it, strange different audio is overdubbed before we cut to credits. Just a miraculous show. Goddamn.
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They haven't revealed which character Michela De Rossi is playing but the casting would be too good for it not to be:
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