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Glagha posted:I would assume they're jumping yeah. Also please charged 5D is great (on bad players (like me))  Live by the dust combo die by the dust combo is my creed.Edit: goddammit this snipe sucks.
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unimportantguy posted:Edit: goddammit this snipe sucks. you have to let go of this. it does not matter.
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So do we have any guesses as to when the first DLC character will be announced/released? I know it's this month, but does Arc have any particular patterns that suggest when exactly? I'm a little tired of facing the exact same matchups against Sol, Ky, Gio, Ram and May, so I'm looking forward to someone that'll at least join that list, if not shake it up a bit further because of counterpicks or balance changes.
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Yithian posted:Same but the heaven challenge. Even getting to attempt it is hard and the people hanging out in heaven are absolute killers. I usually get bounced out after the first two matches haha Dunno if this applies if you haven't made it into heaven before, but as someone who was kicked out after the reset last month, i was still able to access floor 10 while i had the challenge up. Why does this matter? Apparently if you win consistently on floor 10 while the challenge is up, if you get kicked down from the challenge, you only need to win one or two matches on floor 10 to get back to the challenge again. Or maybe I just ran into a weird bug that doesn't apply to everybody. Who knows.
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b_d posted:you have to let go of this. it does not matter. lovely page snipes are a goon right of passage and I will not have you taking this moment away from me, Something Awful forums poster b_d. 
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JBP posted:I want to become a Baiken main As far as I know, Baiken mains don't actually play any the games anyways, so....congratulations?
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Just Andi Now posted:Dunno if this applies if you haven't made it into heaven before, but as someone who was kicked out after the reset last month, i was still able to access floor 10 while i had the challenge up. Why does this matter? Apparently if you win consistently on floor 10 while the challenge is up, if you get kicked down from the challenge, you only need to win one or two matches on floor 10 to get back to the challenge again. At the start of the month, when I kept failing to finish the 5-in-a-row to re-achieve VIP, it really was like 3 or 4 straight wins before I got to try again. I think the reason it doesn't force you to take the Celestial challenge and allow you to stay on floor 10 is that some people truly don't give a gently caress, and don't care to have their ego's bruised by people who practice specific aspects of the game mechanics. For what it's worth, I've been VIP for a while, and can still access floor 10. I think it's really nice because I can learn new characters and their gimmicks/physics w/o having to fully sweat about like, competent burst baits or legitimately threatening neutral pressure.
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unimportantguy posted:Dear Floor 8 players: Please, I am begging you, pick somebody other than Ramlethal or Giovanna. It's been literally nothing but Rams and Gios today and I'm sick of those matchups. Lemme fight a Pot or something. Boy am I feeling this, too, except it's Giovanna and Ky. I haven't even seen a Sol in days.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Boy am I feeling this, too, except it's Giovanna and Ky. I haven't even seen a Sol in days. Ah yes the sequel to All Sols Day, All Sols Go To Heaven.
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I wish there wasn't a match limit in ranked, especially since the floor system usually will kick someone up or down eventually if the outcome isn't fairly even.
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I should be able to rematch endlessly if I'm destroying a dude in ranked and leave immediately when I lose. No honor among thieves.
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Pockyless posted:That's an option select that catches backdashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui_iIHJUqG0&t=52s No way! That's why he's the best Potemkin I guess
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I actually pulled off that move to catch a backdash in a real match last night and I was very proud of myself
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Hopefully those players are just trying to jump/mash out of buster rather than trying to block but inexplicably blocking high on wakeup against a character with 0 standing overheads.  Oh poo poo that is really good to know about Pot.
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Yeah as a pot player, we've only got strike/throw basically. Do be ready for the dust option though because pot's dust reaches way farther than you think it does and he can tag you with that off of a blocked garuda in situations you wouldn't expect and while it's reactable a potemkin that knows the combo (and it's not that difficult) can straight up take like 60% with it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCihK4upngY Please point and laugh and so on. This is my life now. It's nothing but Ky over and over again interspersed with random network errors, I've gone about 2-25 now and I can't wait to see what floor I'll fall down to next.
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Hey so I see that Xrd is on sale right now, and at the price it seems fine. I’d like to mess around with prior GG even if there’s no online presence for it, but I’m really confused with all these versions of the game. If I grab Rev2 does that include everything comprehensively from the first release of Xrd onward?
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCihK4upngY Please ignore this if you aren't looking for advice but the first five minutes of that video is just the Ky player quickly learning that you won't anti-air him and jumping in over and over.
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BurningBeard posted:Hey so I see that Xrd is on sale right now, and at the price it seems fine. I’d like to mess around with prior GG even if there’s no online presence for it, but I’m really confused with all these versions of the game. If I grab Rev2 does that include everything comprehensively from the first release of Xrd onward? You either want All in One if you only care about the characters or All in One Deluxe if you also want the DLC colors and system voices. I think most listings will also include in parenthesis if it includes the optional (Color, system voices) DLC or not. Like if you're looking at the listing on GameBillet, that does not (I think) include the optional DLC. TGLT fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCihK4upngY Looking at just the beginning rounds I'd say the only big errors I see is you kinda need to maybe practice a couple of follow ups to some of your moves, both on block and hit. You probably shouldn't do 214H raw a lot and you tend to pop your blood gauge overusing it. There was also a moment where you got a CH c.S on a jump and could have comboed out after that but you RCed and just dropped it instead. At a lot of the ranges where 214H might hit, you can also poke with f.S and while it's not ALWAYS what you should do, probably going f.SS and then deciding if you want to go into 214H, or something else would be better. Also I think after a lot of those big meaty 2H counterhits you should 236K dash in to follow him into the corner to lay on the pressure. Ky isn't an easy matchup for Nago though and I think you were managing it fine, you just kind of have to be slow and patient against him, especially when your blood gauge is full and you can't afford to do much but just walk forward and poke.
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BurningBeard posted:Hey so I see that Xrd is on sale right now, and at the price it seems fine. I’d like to mess around with prior GG even if there’s no online presence for it, but I’m really confused with all these versions of the game. If I grab Rev2 does that include everything comprehensively from the first release of Xrd onward? Xrd Sign is a different game than Xrd Revelator. Rev2 is DLC for Revelator but (I think) isn't comprehensive because it doesn't come with Rev DLC characters like Dizzy and Raven. This is all based on Steam I'm not sure what the PSN bundles are like. Rev has been pretty active online up through this year but Strive obviously took a big chunk of that
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Please ignore this if you aren't looking for advice but the first five minutes of that video is just the Ky player quickly learning that you won't anti-air him and jumping in over and over. Not so much won't as can't.  I tried to 6P him a couple of times, but surprisingly often ate poo poo anyway - I'm not sure what the hitbox looks like on those moves, maybe I'm just slow - I've said before I have the reaction speed of an old man - but it ain't for a lack of trying.edit: Oh, also, there's a point at 4:36 in that video where I try to command grab him and whiff, but I'm not really sure why it whiffed? Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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Also for some reason Xrd doesn't have Rollback netcode on PC although GGXX: AC, the game from 2006 does. I personally dunno if people are still playing AC on Steam but that's a much harder game to get into at this point
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There are 130 players on +R right now, XRD Rev is 160. Probably not worth getting into now.
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I disagree, they are both great games that now cost like a couple dollars and 100+ people online (on a Wednesday morning) is probably enough for you to find some games. Arcade mode is still fun regardless. You will get your loving rear end kicked going from Strive to +R so prepare for that mental beating.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Not so much won't as can't. It's hard to tell but because he backdashed you actually caught him on the tail end of his backdash, and when you backdash you are actually in the air for a brief period of time, so they can't be grabbed.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:I disagree, they are both great games that now cost like a couple dollars and 100+ people online (on a Wednesday morning) is probably enough for you to find some games. Arcade mode is still fun regardless. Ok so if I’m getting this right, Xrd is actually split into two different games, Revelator and the original, so it’s a question of picking one or the other? Yeah I just planned on messing around in single player. Just wanna see how it changed, see different characters, etc. etc. It’s cheap enough that I don’t mind. Would rather have gotten Granblue Vs. honestly, since it seems a bit more my style, but lol at that price and $30 for each season’s characters.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Also for some reason Xrd doesn't have Rollback netcode on PC although GGXX: AC, the game from 2006 does. I personally dunno if people are still playing AC on Steam but that's a much harder game to get into at this point AC +R only got rollback last year, and yeah there are people still playing it. Even if you can't find matches online you can always hit up a discord somewhere. Not going to be nearly as many new players though compared to Strive. BurningBeard posted:Ok so if I’m getting this right, Xrd is actually split into two different games, Revelator and the original, so it’s a question of picking one or the other? Rev and Rev2 are kind of like what Accent Core was for XX. Rev also includes Sign's story mode and characters. edit: Basically go for Rev2 over Sign if you want the full experience. I think you can even switch back to Sign mode? Or maybe it was you could switch back to original Revelator.
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BurningBeard posted:Ok so if I’m getting this right, Xrd is actually split into two different games, Revelator and the original, so it’s a question of picking one or the other? The one you want is helpfully named "GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (+DLC Characters) + REV 2 All-in-One (does not include optional DLCs)" on Steam
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It's on Gamebillet for $9.69 right now, so if you were going to grab it get it there instead of steam. edit: Oh hey +R is also on sale there for $2.41.
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pS4 unfortunately, which is significantly less transparent about what’s included. I’ll just grab Rev2 and roll with it.
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Arcsys should really just combine every single steam Revelator into a single listing at this point. Just a single button that buys the whole thing for one price and nothing else. You shouldn’t need an infographic to tell you how to buy the correct rev
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Sorry to post two videos in one day but I really have no loving clue what any of this was in either of these two matches or what I should've done to stop it from happening. Like, zero clue at all what was happening. Ignore my offense for a second and just, how do you defend against (or react to) this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sack0qOniJU
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KingShiro posted:There are 130 players on +R right now, XRD Rev is 160. Probably not worth getting into now. those are pretty good numbers for an fg tbh
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Sorry to post two videos in one day but I really have no loving clue what any of this was in either of these two matches or what I should've done to stop it from happening. Like, zero clue at all what was happening. Ignore my offense for a second and just, how do you defend against (or react to) this? you need a better grasp on when it's your turn. you're pushing a lot of buttons in the middle of frame traps and pressure just hoping they get through. several times your spacing is nowhere near close enough to press the button you press. against faust you didnt block low while he was on the ground several times and got hit for it. and his mixup is pretty easy to block, you just block high if neither scarecrow has its eye lit up. against zato you're pushing buttons while eddie is out, sometimes in the middle of eddie moves that have several parts to them while he's on top of you. you bursted in a spot where there was no followup combo coming and you werent even close enough to hit him with the burst and then, again, you didnt block low
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Obviously. But, it's not like I'm pressing buttons randomly, I do it because I think they will get through. I'm wrong about that, of course, but just sitting back and blocking forever has also not been a winning strategy, so I don't feel like I'm ever getting any closer to figuring out where the right place to try to stop the pressure is. Especially not for Faust or Eddie, who I have no idea how to block (I know how the scarecrow works now thanks to the thread but I still don't have the reaction time to tell which scarecrow has its eyes open, if any, before the hit so it's kind of a crapshoot - and I don't know what the response to the screen-length scalpel grab thing is, I guess it's a command grab?).
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Obviously. But, it's not like I'm pressing buttons randomly, I do it because I think they will get through. I'm wrong about that, of course, but just sitting back and blocking forever has also not been a winning strategy, so I don't feel like I'm ever getting any closer to figuring out where the right place to try to stop the pressure is. Especially not for Faust or Eddie, who I have no idea how to block (I know how the scarecrow works now thanks to the thread but I still don't have the reaction time to tell which scarecrow has its eyes open, if any, before the hit so it's kind of a crapshoot - and I don't know what the response to the screen-length scalpel grab thing is, I guess it's a command grab?). the only way you're gonna find out is by looking up characters and seeing what's unsafe for them faust scalpel is not a grab you just block it
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Is there any design constraint that requires players to use unsafe moves? And if not, how do you take a turn against someone who exclusively strings together safe moves?
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Thoom posted:Is there any design constraint that requires players to use unsafe moves? And if not, how do you take a turn against someone who exclusively strings together safe moves? if you use a move that's safe but leaves you at disadvantage it is no longer your turn. Hyper Crab Tank posted:Obviously. But, it's not like I'm pressing buttons randomly, I do it because I think they will get through. I'm wrong about that, of course, but just sitting back and blocking forever has also not been a winning strategy, so I don't feel like I'm ever getting any closer to figuring out where the right place to try to stop the pressure is. Especially not for Faust or Eddie, who I have no idea how to block (I know how the scarecrow works now thanks to the thread but I still don't have the reaction time to tell which scarecrow has its eyes open, if any, before the hit so it's kind of a crapshoot - and I don't know what the response to the screen-length scalpel grab thing is, I guess it's a command grab?). Take 2 minutes to use the record function in training mode to figure out what you can do. It's easier and faster than uploading a video to youtube and asking on a forum.
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