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Apparently some of the damaged properties in Barrie weren't up to code and in some cases the roof wasn't nailed to the house. I'm sure cutting funds to building inspection to clear that right up.
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Jul 16, 2021 17:37
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Isn’t that like a brand new neighborhood? Looks like it’s right on the edge of another phase of garbage homes
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Jul 16, 2021 17:44
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Isn’t that like a brand new neighborhood? Looks like it’s right on the edge of another phase of garbage homes That was my first thought from the photos, prime location right next to a glistening mud pit.
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Jul 16, 2021 17:50
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Love to pay twice as much for a house as it would be worth if it were properly built, and not even get that.
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Jul 16, 2021 17:52
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tagesschau posted:Love to pay twice as much for a house as it would be worth if it were properly built, and not even get that.
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Jul 16, 2021 18:06
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These guys are all fuckers and buying a new house has --- imo --- been a horrible decision. Our siding has come off regularly and the guy was like, "well i normally leave it but it's been windy" - fucker, it's ALWAYS windy on the prairies. He was supposed to nail them all in but yesterday a small strip on my garage was off. These guys are all crooks and pieces of poo poo. Burn the industry to the ground.
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Jul 16, 2021 18:51
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Vintersorg posted:These guys are all fuckers and buying a new house has --- imo --- been a horrible decision. Our siding has come off regularly and the guy was like, "well i normally leave it but it's been windy" - fucker, it's ALWAYS windy on the prairies. He was supposed to nail them all in but yesterday a small strip on my garage was off. These guys are all crooks and pieces of poo poo. Burn the industry to the ground. I know any new building is going to have some growing pains but to be that guy for a second, when I lived in Japan one of my places was also a brand new building. Zero issues, everything was perfect with that unit. Crappy buildings everywhere doesn't have to be the norm.
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Jul 16, 2021 19:25
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Yeah - my parents bought a new build near Gravenhurst and I genuinely wonder if the builder was just a scam artist. House absolutely not matching the drawings submitted to the city (literal extra rooms), illegal (untagged) well, septic bed backed up in the first year, and construction waste buried in the backyard, just to name a handful of the insane litany of issues. The builder convinced my parents not to file with Tarion early on when there were only a few issues and has paid for a significant amount of the fixes, but they're habitual home-improvers and even they are just sick and tired of everything coming up in this place.
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Jul 16, 2021 20:11
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Vintersorg posted:These guys are all fuckers and buying a new house has --- imo --- been a horrible decision. Our siding has come off regularly and the guy was like, "well i normally leave it but it's been windy" - fucker, it's ALWAYS windy on the prairies. He was supposed to nail them all in but yesterday a small strip on my garage was off. These guys are all crooks and pieces of poo poo. Burn the industry to the ground. This has been an ongoing issue since the last housing boom of the early Aughts. I started my plumbing apprenticeship around then, and my first few years were in construction. I always advise never buying any house newer than the 1990s unless you can go over it with a fine tooth comb and either find no problems or can reasonably expect to get those problems fixed. In my first year I was with a journeyman and we were working on houses in new subdivisions on the north and south of Edmonton, as well as in the outer communities of Sherwood Park, St. Albert, and Beaumont. We were expected to rough in a house (drainage, water lines, and venting) in 24 man hours, about a day and half. I admit I'm a slow worker, but it's unreasonable to expect quality work at that rate when the company is only caring about the bottom line. Now expand that attitude to the other trades. It's not worth sinking your money into the sort of money pit it potentially can be. I've seen work that could have happened at GroverHause FFS.
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Jul 16, 2021 20:32
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Also, make sure when buying a house or apartment build before 1985 that your wiring is up to code, cause you might just find a smoldering fire in your loving wall thanks to the heat wave! Thanks, home inspector, for making it sound like our wiring was TOTALLY FINE. Home inspections and new homes are scams.
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Jul 16, 2021 21:14
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ChickenDoodle posted:Also, make sure when buying a house or apartment build before 1985 that your wiring is up to code, cause you might just find a smoldering fire in your loving wall thanks to the heat wave! Did you have fuses or a breaker panel?
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Jul 16, 2021 22:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j3SChqp51Y
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Jul 16, 2021 22:20
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ChickenDoodle posted:Also, make sure when buying a house or apartment build before 1985 that your wiring is up to code, cause you might just find a smoldering fire in your loving wall thanks to the heat wave! uhh if the home inspector produced a document for you that claims the wiring in the home was adequate or meets building codes and it was not you can sue that dude. They have professional liability since people rely on their expert knowledge of building construction when they make investment decisions.
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Jul 16, 2021 22:21
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Also make sure some home-gamer didn't do anything important. What's a ground wire even for, amirite?
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Jul 16, 2021 22:22
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Cocaine Bear posted:Also make sure some home-gamer didn't do anything important. What's a ground wire even for, amirite? Doesn’t sound important, I want electricity not dirt!
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Jul 16, 2021 22:43
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Yeah, seems about right for this hell hole. (That’ll be worth 2.5mm now I imagine) Noblesse Obliged posted:Did you have fuses or a breaker panel? I do, yeah. It doesn’t go off fast enough, apparently. Also, half aluminum half copper in this stupid apartment (the building was built in the 60s with all aluminum wiring and whatever rear end in a top hat renovated the place only did the kitchen and bathroom and most likely without permits). It’s a whole bucket of nightmare fuel I’m fixing and then running away from for something younger. Starsfan posted:uhh if the home inspector produced a document for you that claims the wiring in the home was adequate or meets building codes and it was not you can sue that dude. They have professional liability since people rely on their expert knowledge of building construction when they make investment decisions. I’ll take a look into this with my contractor, thanks. (He’s the one who alerted me to the fact this idiot told us it wasn’t anything to worry about at the moment). Thanks for the advice. Sorry for making GBS threads up the thread. ChickenDoodle fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 23:20
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ChickenDoodle posted:Yeah, seems about right for this hell hole. (That’ll be worth 2.5mm now I imagine) Fuses are actually safer and better but with a big asterisk on that. You have to use the right one for the circuit. People screw 30A into 15A circuits and then melt their wiring. And aluminum is okay as long as all the plugs and switches are rated for use for aluminum. The issue is when people mix them up.
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Jul 16, 2021 23:26
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ChickenDoodle posted:I’ll take a look into this with my contractor, thanks. (He’s the one who alerted me to the fact this idiot told us it wasn’t anything to worry about at the moment). Yeah the problem is that home inspectors are only liable for things that they could reasonably be expected to detect during their inspection, issues with electrical wiring could be difficult to detect if they are not readily apparent on a walk through the home. It would depend on what specific claims the inspector made in their report and what the defects with the electrical work were.
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Jul 16, 2021 23:32
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https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1416170773182615552 The Greens have lost votes to... Maxime Bernier?? Good job, environment party.
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Jul 17, 2021 00:08
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I mean... it's possible that the Greens lost their support to the NDP and the PPC is slowly starting to eat the CPC.
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Jul 17, 2021 00:39
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Either way this fall election is going to be a nothingburger. We're either going to get another 4 years of status quo libs or 4 years of 'Gosh we'd love to be more progressive but we have a minority government and the nasty conservatives won't let us' libs. Then we're going to get a CPC minority. Then we're going to get a CPC majority. And by that time climate change will have primed this country to just go loving fascist.
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Jul 17, 2021 00:51
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Drunk Canuck posted:https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1416170773182615552 They’re known as “Tesla Tories” for a reason
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Jul 17, 2021 01:11
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I seem to recall in this thread a discussion of some very engaging, but emotionally hard to read, books about the history of settlement of western Canada. I'm phone postin' and can't get the search function to work. Was Clearing the Prairies recommended? Anything else that goes into the history of genocide and broken treaties and maybe the presettlement history of the Prairies? I'm looking more for well-written popular histories rather than academic studies. For my part, I picked up "A Geography of Blood" by Candace Savage at the library recently. It's good, but it's very specific to the area of the Cypress Hills.
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Jul 17, 2021 03:07
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Clearing the Plains.
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Jul 17, 2021 04:26
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ChickenDoodle posted:Also, make sure when buying a house or apartment build before 1985 that your wiring is up to code, cause you might just find a smoldering fire in your loving wall thanks to the heat wave! Oh yeah, for a relatively brief time they used aluminum wiring instead of copper. It works perfectly fine, as long as the voltage and amperage isn't too high. Then the stuff melts. Same thing with plastic water lines made from polybutenol. That stuff is the precursor of pex and wirsbo, but it gets more brittle with time and UV light can damage it, so all you can do is adapt it to modern water lines. Poly B is easy to identify at least: it's a dull grey. You see that stuff, best leave it to the professionals.
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Jul 17, 2021 05:02
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Lars Blitzer posted:Oh yeah, for a relatively brief time they used aluminum wiring instead of copper. It works perfectly fine, as long as the voltage and amperage isn't too high. Then the stuff melts. Same thing with plastic water lines made from polybutenol. That stuff is the precursor of pex and wirsbo, but it gets more brittle with time and UV light can damage it, so all you can do is adapt it to modern water lines. Poly B is easy to identify at least: it's a dull grey. You see that stuff, best leave it to the professionals. Isn't the other problem with Aluminum wiring that it oxidizes at connections which can increase resistance and thus heat which would lead to that melting scenario? Plus it seems like aluminum work hardens pretty quickly but I don't know if that's an issue as well or not.
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Jul 17, 2021 05:18
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Squibbles posted:Isn't the other problem with Aluminum wiring that it oxidizes at connections which can increase resistance and thus heat which would lead to that melting scenario? Plus it seems like aluminum work hardens pretty quickly but I don't know if that's an issue as well or not. I believe so. With the usual caveat that I'm a plumber, not an electrician I can only tell you what my personal experience has been. I've only dealt with aluminum wiring when I've had to install a dishwasher or similar appliance. I've found that aluminum is more brittle than copper, so you can't bend it too much, and as far as oxidation is concerned I'd have to say yes, it does increase the resistance of the wiring which in turn increases the heat of the wire when electricity is passing through.
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Jul 17, 2021 06:03
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flakeloaf posted:"Our" Métis, hmm? That sounds way too smart to be something I’d have posted on the forums, tbh.
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Jul 17, 2021 06:26
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Lars Blitzer posted:Oh yeah, for a relatively brief time they used aluminum wiring instead of copper. It works perfectly fine, as long as the voltage and amperage isn't too high. Then the stuff melts. Same thing with plastic water lines made from polybutenol. That stuff is the precursor of pex and wirsbo, but it gets more brittle with time and UV light can damage it, so all you can do is adapt it to modern water lines. Poly B is easy to identify at least: it's a dull grey. You see that stuff, best leave it to the professionals. Agreed. It’s worked fine for years, up until we got hit with 40c+ temperatures and we used the microwave and the air conditioner at the same time. Those three things combined caused the perfect storm of melting wiring. But that just brings up the worry about the other units who haven’t done work. WHEN this happens again (cause climate change is real), what if someone does the same thing unknowingly like me? What other buildings are at risk because climate change is also changing what works inside them? THAT is a terrifying thought to me.
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Jul 17, 2021 06:48
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Buildings like that aren't designed for people to actually live in, they are investment vehicles
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Jul 17, 2021 13:09
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Yeah, it seems like new builds are not worth anything these days. Our house is 160 years old, I'm pretty sure anything that could happen has already happened. A big renovation was done in 2000 so all the wiring is modern and the plumbing is mostly modern also, and those are the 2 biggies. I don't think you can get more solid. The foundation is 3 foot thick layers of fieldstone and the main beams are just actual tree trunks. There isn't a single straight line in the house but I'm okay with that.
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Jul 17, 2021 13:40
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I lived in a place like that, except it was purpose built as a rental in 1880, and was used as a rental ever since. The basement was dirt, one of the (only) support beams had a huge crack going down the middle, there were two old kerosene tanks in the basement, there was literal rubble all over the basement floor from where the fieldstone was crumbling, and japanese knotweed was growing between the stones. That place was... not great.
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Jul 17, 2021 14:15
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Walked into city hall today, asked if I could get a shot, got a shot and now I'm doing the 15 minute shuffle. So that's Pfizer for 1 and Moderna for 2.
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Jul 17, 2021 20:35
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Arcsquad12 posted:Walked into city hall today, asked if I could get a shot, got a shot and now I'm doing the 15 minute shuffle. Enjoy your covid protection, 5G nanobots and extra limbs! Also thank you for not vaccine shopping. I had some fuckshit rear end in a top hat swearing and threatening me yesterday at work because we ran out of Pfizer and could only give him Moderna. He let slip he was a realtor and was whining that he couldnt see clients blah blah and now I hate realtors even more than before, something I didnt know was possible.
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Jul 17, 2021 20:56
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It's worth it not only to get it done quicker but also to spite the older assholes blaming the whole pandemic on my age demographic like we're picky eaters with an inflated sense of invincibility.
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Jul 17, 2021 21:08
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its absolutely insane to me that anyone could think they're qualified to have a robust enough opinion on what vaccine they get that they could actually get angry at someone else about it at the convention centre they did not even entertain the possibility of having a choice. you got the one that the person had on them and that was it and frankly thats good enough
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Jul 17, 2021 22:04
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We as a society respect individual choice and our ability to make boneheaded decisions a bit much.
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Jul 17, 2021 23:12
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Verviticus posted:its absolutely insane to me that anyone could think they're qualified to have a robust enough opinion on what vaccine they get that they could actually get angry at someone else about it I've seen a case where people had vacation planned which they had to change destination because the country did not recognize mix as a valid immunization but that issue sill surely resolve itself in time where countries will start accepting it.
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Jul 17, 2021 23:16
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supersnowman posted:I've seen a case where people had vacation planned which they had to change destination because the country did not recognize mix as a valid immunization but that issue sill surely resolve itself in time where countries will start accepting it. God forbid people look into this poo poo before planning vacations out of the country. Its not my job to hold onto vaccines just in case Wealthy Boomer #47574 booked a non-refundable flight to some country offering cruises.
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Jul 17, 2021 23:55
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supersnowman posted:I've seen a case where people had vacation planned which they had to change destination because the country did not recognize mix as a valid immunization but that issue sill surely resolve itself in time where countries will start accepting it. Yeah, I mean, that's an issue. It's a bit rude that by following public health advice and common sense here in Canada, and receiving a mixed vaccination, you could be barred from or restricted in other countries (whether they booked their trips in the past, or are considering doing so now). I think it's reasonable to be angry about the constellation of circumstances that allow that to happen (of which being offered/receiving a mixed vaccination is NOT the most significant), while not holding individual pharmacists responsible and yelling at them about it.
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Jul 18, 2021 00:59
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