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e.pilot posted:I took the middle path and do ACMI Part 121: This caught my attention- does this mean you are a cargo pilot? How hard is it to maintain a healthy sleep cycle if you are flying at night most of the time? As a PAX I've never had any kind of contact with pilots when on a revenue flight. Granted I've never attempted to see anyone either. Can you explain what you mean by bitchy passengers? I thought new FAA rules make it so you can't really go anywhere near the cockpit without express permission from the pilots and even then they're not supposed to let people into the cockpit. Do they accost you at the terminal? Is TSA more forgiving to pilots and air crew than regular PAX? Like I always imagined they kind of wave you on in. Or perhaps they power trip and gently caress with you even more because you're a pilot?
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Kraftwerk posted:This caught my attention- does this mean you are a cargo pilot? How hard is it to maintain a healthy sleep cycle if you are flying at night most of the time? I am, most of the time I get enough time off between flights and go through enough time zones it’s not a big deal. I have a bike I travel with and work is just the thing I do in between epic euro and asia bike rides. quote:As a PAX I've never had any kind of contact with pilots when on a revenue flight. Granted I've never attempted to see anyone either. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-agencies-report-rising-number-unruly-airline-passengers-2021-07-20/ quote:Is TSA more forgiving to pilots and air crew than regular PAX? Like I always imagined they kind of wave you on in. Or perhaps they power trip and gently caress with you even more because you're a pilot? Yeah but I typically have a 5min walk from the hotel van to my plane just checking in with the load master, vs going to the terminal like everyone else, going through the crew security line hoping you don’t get a random bag check and have go go through the metal detector and send your bags through the x-ray, then you have to walk through the terminals like everyone else to get to your gate, it can easily be a 30min+ ordeal depending on the airport.
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My experience at a regional has been that I only occasionally deal with passengers while we're boarding (minus air marshals or other people allowed to carry a weapon on the airplane), but it's pretty common for me to get asked where a gate/baggage claim/airline customer service counter is if I go into a terminal to get food or something. Most of the time I deal with passengers is because they're being idiots about something, but most of those interactions are limited to one of the flight attendants giving me a heads up that the person in seat X is being an idiot about (thing), in case we need to remove them from the airplane or bring law enforcement into it. Technically, being the captain means I'm the one who makes the call to remove a passenger, but since the flight attendants deal with passengers a hell of a lot more than I do, I rely quite a bit on their input opinion, since they're the ones dealing with the idiots that make up the traveling public once we leave the gate. As for TSA/customs, it depends on which airport you're dealing with. At smaller airports in the US, we usually bypass security (the airline employees can escort us to the tamp via back doors), but larger airports will have a dedicated "known crew member" line in security, where pilots and flight attendants skip most of the TSA stuff by showing an ID and using a barcode we're issued after getting a background check. All of our bags are subject to search by the TSA, but since the liquid restrictions don't apply, it's mostly a check to see if we're carrying weapons or drugs or something. Customs usually has a different line (or they'll wave us to the front of the normal one) for flight crews, and my experience has been that the Canadian customs people are perfectly fine, but the US customs people verge on paranoid, and the people in Seattle absolutely hate everyone they deal with.
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I finally signed up for a discovery flight! The school sounds a little busy so it's a few weeks out and a likely waitlist for training afterwards but I'm still pumped.
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Kraftwerk posted:Do you guys have any opinions on the American ATP style schools like the ones in Daytona? It's not financially viable for me to drop everything and spend 100k+ to live in Florida for a few years so I'm more curious about how this system works. Sorry I know I'm asking a lot of questions here but I'm really down the rabbit hole now and there's so much I want to know. Related to this, does anyone operate the chain flight schools with a lot of locations anymore or is that just ATP at this point?
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Awesome! Enjoy the flight, and take the opportunity to check out their planes and chat with any instructors you can to make sure it feels like a good fit.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Related to this, does anyone operate the chain flight schools with a lot of locations anymore or is that just ATP at this point? The closest thing to chain flight schools I can think of (not counting Riddle and UND satellite campuses) are some of the "foreign pilot mill" ones that may operate several different locations near a given home base. I think CAE Oxford had several locations before the pandemic, and there might have been a couple of other European firms that had multiple locations, but I'm assuming a lot of those have probably been closed or sold by now.
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My friend (the one with whom I got to fly along earlier) did time building with Flying Academy, I think they have a few locations in California and Florida.
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I have friends that came out of retirement to fly the PC12. By all second-hand experience they’re fantastic airplanes.
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This is how I hear it whenever someone says how great the PC-12 is https://youtu.be/l4LhXycJ7rI don't @ me
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Kraftwerk posted:Man I really like those Pilatus PC-12s. They look like a ton of fun to fly. I’m sure the TBM 700/850/900 is fun as well. I flew an NG while on leave from the airlines during covid. They’re great hand flying planes and easy to fly single pilot. I highly recommend you pick one up if you have the means. However by this time of year I get tired of loading all the junk in the back and sweating my balls off in the heat sitting on the ramp. I’m glad to be going back to the airlines with an APU and where someone else gets paid to load the bags.
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Rolo posted:I have friends that came out of retirement to fly the PC12. By all second-hand experience they’re fantastic airplanes. They are wonderful, I flew them for a bit.
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I went on another flight with my friend and one other guy. He kept loving around with the window until we had the first ever in-flight mechanical failure  It was... Quite noisy 
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Bob A Feet posted:I’m a ssssssseeEEEYA guy and a “flash” identer guy. We do a lot of formation flying and will always get queried by Pensacola TRACON “Texan XXX are you a single or a flight?”. My favorite response is “Texan XXX is a single. You interested?” Gets a chuckle like 10% of the time Why does it not surprise me at all that you are one of those guys.
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nocturama posted:I like hearing what weird stuff the yank pilots come out with, working sydney approach apologies for the yahoos I work with
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nocturama posted:I like hearing what weird stuff the yank pilots come out with, working sydney approach I heard Australian atc are very particular about correct radio phraseology, is that true?
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nocturama posted:I like hearing what weird stuff the yank pilots come out with, working sydney approach Payback for the dumb point in space clearances your center controllers give out
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nocturama posted:I like hearing what weird stuff the yank pilots come out with, working sydney approach  sanchez posted:I heard Australian atc are very particular about correct radio phraseology, is that true? I think we've finally broke their will.
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To all: South Florida Metroplex stands up on August 12. Fire. Brimstone. Descend/climb via clearances. Cats and dogs living together. Basically the end of the world. I'm sorry in advance to anyone flying in the area for at least a week or so. We got zero participation from several approach controls (some because they're unprofessional as hell and told us to go pound sand, some because management took their budget away and told them they're not allowed to play,) and it's resulted in a decidedly compromised initial implementation.
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sanchez posted:I heard Australian atc are very particular about correct radio phraseology, is that true? Possibly, i got nothing to compare to though. Australians in general are sticklers for the rules i find. Arson Daily posted:Payback for the dumb point in space clearances your center controllers give out Gimme an example of this? I genuinely am entertained by the american pilots, i remember being fresh on the job and one replied to my request for max speed with, "Roger, we'll whip the horses" i almost fell off my chair
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nocturama posted:Possibly, i got nothing to compare to though. Australians in general are sticklers for the rules i find. My last job had specific FMS training dealing with inputing fix/radial/distance from multiple fixes because Australian controllers liked to send you to those kinds of points when entering radar controlled airspace from the oceanic environment. I got a few going into Sydney when coming from the US. Not really sure why that was a thing but it was a flurry of button pushing when the controller started issuing instructions like that. You have to realize that american pilots are usually used to talking to other american controllers in a vernacular that both parties are used to, so when you get one of these american pilots talking to a foreign controller, especially if the foreign controller speaks english natively, the american pilot will default to a very casual use of that language. US controllers are not much better, as they will expect even foreign pilots to understand slang and non standard aviation english. Just yesterday I was going into San Jose California and the approach controller was working a Polish air force gulfstream with a medevac callsign. The Polish pilots were speaking perfectly understandable yet accented English but the controller apparently couldn't handle the accent and proceeded to treat them like a brand new student pilot on their first solo and spoke to them like this: Polish...Airforce...Medevac...turn..left..please...L.E.F.T...T.U.R.N...Heading...3...5...0.... This went on and on and the controller apologized over and over to us that he just couldn't understand these dumb foreign pilots. Meanwhile these guys are perfectly legible and honestly it was embarrassing having to hear this controller speak to these professionals like 3 year olds. As an example, imagine you're this chinese FO who only knows the 300 some odd words of aviation english and this dickhead in the tower at JFK is bombarding you with questions like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDqZy4deDI Some motherfucker throws the word interrogative at you and he expects you to know what hes talking about? I feel real bad for the foreign pilots that venture into US airspace, I really do. However, sometimes even foreign controllers will try to emulate the american pilot casual radio phraseology, and male Japanese controllers seemed like the worst when it came to this. The ladies on the radio never seemed to, but when you had Fedex or whomever call up: "Narita, Fedex eleven sixteen two four oh for three five oh hiya doin" you'd get rawhide kobayashi over here trying to mimic that non standard nonsense and make a whole hash of it and then nobody knew what anybody was saying. Arson Daily fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Arson Daily posted:male Japanese controllers seemed like the worst when it came to this. The ladies on the radio never seemed to, but when you had Fedex or whomever call up: "Narita, Fedex eleven sixteen two four oh for three five oh hiya doin" you'd get rawhide kobayashi over here trying to mimic that non standard nonsense and make a whole hash of it and then nobody knew what anybody was saying. felt this to my bones
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MrYenko posted:To all: South Florida Metroplex stands up on August 12. Fire. Brimstone. Descend/climb via clearances. Cats and dogs living together. Basically the end of the world. which TRACONs refused to help you. name and shame. was it PBI TRACON, those bastards refused to give me an opposite direction practice approach in 2018
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Arson Daily posted:My last job had specific FMS training dealing with inputing fix/radial/distance from multiple fixes because Australian controllers liked to send you to those kinds of points when entering radar controlled airspace from the oceanic environment. I got a few going into Sydney when coming from the US. Not really sure why that was a thing but it was a flurry of button pushing when the controller started issuing instructions like that. Cool to hear this perspective. As to the tracking from my colleagues, i can't provide an explanation, i havent worked procedural or in brisbane centre. Maybe its to provide lateral separation points off of flex tracks or something?  idk
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Arson Daily posted:US controllers are not much better, as they will expect even foreign pilots to understand slang and non standard aviation english. Just yesterday I was going into San Jose California and the approach controller was working a Polish air force gulfstream with a medevac callsign. The Polish pilots were speaking perfectly understandable yet accented English but the controller apparently couldn't handle the accent and proceeded to treat them like a brand new student pilot on their first solo and spoke to them like this: Polish...Airforce...Medevac...turn..left..please...L.E.F.T...T.U.R.N...Heading...3...5...0.... This went on and on and the controller apologized over and over to us that he just couldn't understand these dumb foreign pilots. Meanwhile these guys are perfectly legible and honestly it was embarrassing having to hear this controller speak to these professionals like 3 year olds. We (NATCA) have a professional standards program for a reason, but it’s sorely underused. That type of thing is totally unacceptable, and I’ve made a few coworkers feel about three inches tall yelling at them for doing it to actual student pilots. It’s also a pretty solid indicator that the controller in question is poo poo at their job. If I can ever help any of you guys get in touch with a local ProfStands rep anywhere in the country, let me know. (I’m the rep for Miami Center.) a patagonian cavy posted:which TRACONs refused to help you. name and shame. was it PBI TRACON, those bastards refused to give me an opposite direction practice approach in 2018 Oh boy, this snowballed quickly. All-ya’ll need to come have a beer with some of us when you come down to Miami for sim-time or something. So the biggest offender is (as always) Miami approach. They basically took their ball and went home several times during development hell, and were just generally extremely adversarial during the entire (10+ year) process. The result is that Miami/Lauderdale and their satellites all have shiny new climb-via RNAV departures that are not procedurally deconflicted from literally anything. So during a busy departure push, instead of the departure controller saying “GOON42 radar contact” and then a couple minutes later “GOON42 contact Miami center 132.45,” Miami approach is still going to be vectoring and step climbing literally everyone like it’s the bad old days. As part of Metroplex, we converted to a route-based departure gate assignment system instead of the (obsolete) departure-airport based system we had been using. IE previously, all aircraft departing MIA approach for Q77 or Q87 routing up the east coast would be assigned HEDLY for Miami terminal area and ARKES for Fort Lauderdale terminal area departures regardless of further routing or destination. Center would then do Miami’s job, pry everyone apart, get airplanes on the correct sides, and sequence the aircraft while they’re in the climb. On the 12th, aircraft filed Q77 will be assigned the new VACAY departure, which replaces HEDLY, and Q87 aircraft will be assigned AARPS, which replaces ARKES. This is in line with metroplex programs elsewhere in the country, all totally normal. Fine. Good. Great, right? Miami approach, a “level 12” up/down (same pay band as Kennedy Tower, NY TRACON, O’Hare, SOCAL approach, etc etc,) is not going to sequence those departures. (Not even a “we can’t do that,” they actually had the balls in negotiations to say to us “We’re not going to do that.”) We’re just going to be permanently stratified, with the Lauderdale traffic just getting stuffed under all Miami area departures. FXE-TEB in your Falcon 7X filed for FL450? Get hosed, you’re stuck under every Excel, Cirrus, and E145 leaving Miami/OpaLocka/Tamiami/Ocean Reef/etc. Hope you like 310. The DTA control area is seriously almost the entire northern half of Miami approach airspace. They’re just going to dump these airplanes out the gates with zero sequencing, Miami traffic climbing to 160, and Lauderdale traffic climbing to 130. In fact, we had to fight like hell to get 130, when they wanted to only climb them to 120, which would have meant in less than 18nm (and when not if) Miami forgets to ship them, they violate Palm Beach and we get dinged for it. That negotiation was in bad faith; Miami is still trying to get the entire program cancelled, and was trying to poison-pill us. Note on this (public) draft doc the total lack of any procedural vertical separation until FEBAD? Note that altitude isn’t 130, but 120? That’s in center airspace. It procedurally doesn’t do a godamned thing. Miami took one look at metroplex and said “Nah bro, we’re gonna do what we’ve always done. Designing procedures looks hard.” And told everyone else (including every adjacent facility and especially the end-user) to get hosed. They also (somefuckinghow I still don’t understand) will no longer be accepting IFR overflight traffic. Not a new overflight gate or procedure. A loving line in the LOA that says “Miami ARTCC will not route IFR overflight traffic into Weakstick Approach airspace.” Neither will Palm Beach, who is going from SFC-100 to SFC-120. So there will now be a wall from north of Jupiter to Key Largo from the surface to at least twelve thousand feet (Miami owns to sixteen) between the islands and the entire contiguous US. FMY-MYNN in your 182? Get hosed, I have to route you nearly 100nm out of your way because these fuckhead approach controls cant be bothered to work an overflight. Hope you wanted to see Marathon or Melbourne on your way. As far as I’ve been able to find, this is unique among approach controls in the US. Meanwhile, RSW approach has a 10% higher arrival delivery rate than PBI despite having only a single piece of concrete, and is working the PGD traffic (which is absolutely bonkers-exploding: Sun Country just announced they’re going in there in addition to Allegiant) with zero issues. but they got told “there’s no money in the metroplex budget for your facility, go home.” So I still have an RNAV arrival (SHFTY5) that doesn’t actually laterally clear the military airspace it was supposed to clear, because twenty years ago some rear end in a top hat hosed up and didn’t click the checkbox to make WRTRS a fly-over fix, so every Airbus on the planet cuts the corner and violates the Avon gunnery range. Overlay it on the VFR chart and peep that northwest corner of PLACID EAST. Fun times. We’ve ATSAPed it dozens of times, but it always gets to airspace and someone goes “oh, moving a fix (or just making it a fly-over) is a lot of work. Nah. Hope no one gets hit by a mortar shell or F-16.” For chrissakes I have a brand-new RNAV procedure to PGD where the LOA procedure is to issue “cross ten miles north of LYFIE at one-three-thousand.” WHY IS THERE NOT A loving FIX THERE WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress DID WE SPEND TEN YEARS AND UNTOLD TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON WHO THE gently caress IS EVEN IN CHARGE OF THIS loving CATASTROPHE. Bottom line, I’d rather put RSW’s janitorial staff on MIA D and L scope than work with the chucklefucks down there. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten a 777 or MD11 behind a Citation with the throttles in the firewall that’s just barely doing 210, and the D scope controller acts surprised that we get angry about it. They wouldn’t know a good feed if it sat on their face and wiggled. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
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I'll just add that D10 (Regional Approach for DFW Dallas Ft Worth) doesn't allow IFR overflights either unless it's a medevac or special case.
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MrYenko posted:shiny new climb-via RNAV departures that are not procedurally deconflicted from literally anything. They wouldn’t know a good feed if it sat on their face and wiggled. I thought that was largely the point of them? quote:They wouldn’t know a good feed if it sat on their face and wiggled. Well the silver lining of the whole thing is getting to read this line
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Rereading my post I see that im coming off as too harsh. The majority of the controllers I interact with are level headed, professional and accommodating. I apologize.
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USA controller chat, all my friends give NY and Boston a bad rap when they have always been clear and awesome with me, even when I was doing long cross countries for commercial building. Miami though. Miami has some guys that test my professionalism. Try to vector me into a storm then tell me I can go back where I came from if I don’t like it? gently caress you, rear end in a top hat.
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vessbot posted:I thought that was largely the point of them? Me and you both, myman. Me and you both. Rolo posted:Miami though. Miami has some guys that test my professionalism. Try to vector me into a storm then tell me I can go back where I came from if I don’t like it? gently caress you, rear end in a top hat. Did I talk to you yesterday? I tried to assign a 325 heading to a deviating guy to miss traffic, and I got an unable, ended up having to crank the guy all the way around to the left back to a 90° heading because I had literally nowhere to go with him. The wheels just completely departed the bus, nowhere to go, no one on either side willing to take handoffs, TMU once again acting surprised that airplanes aren’t willing to fly directly through thunderstorms… Our airspace is a giant funnel with arrivals down the coasts and departures up the landmass, and has zero flexibility to adjust to weather when thunderstorms roll in. We have no alternate gates to go out, we have nowhere else to put the airplanes, and our TMU doesn’t have the spine to stand up in-trail that might generate delays, so we just get to eat poo poo every day in the summertime. It’s very frustrating, and frequently dangerous.
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For those not keeping an eye on the festivities at Oshkosh, they're about to get the poo poo kicked out them by a derecho. They suspended the show after 5pm today and canceled all the night activities in advance of it. E- PDS Severe Thunderstorm Watch for weather nerds. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jul 29, 2021 |
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MrYenko posted:Did I talk to you yesterday? I tried to assign a 325 heading to a deviating guy to miss traffic, and I got an unable, ended up having to crank the guy all the way around to the left back to a 90° heading because I had literally nowhere to go with him. The wheels just completely departed the bus, nowhere to go, no one on either side willing to take handoffs, TMU once again acting surprised that airplanes aren’t willing to fly directly through thunderstorms… No this was a while ago and we weren't deviating, just telling the guy we couldn't take the given heading but a 2 minute delay, vector or lower would fix it. He refused to work with us and after snapping that we could go back where we came from another guy got on and gave us a good heading. It wasn't a spill-your-drink cloud, it was dangerous. We weren't going in it.
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Sagebrush posted:like rats fleeing a sinking ship or kids running out of a party when the cops show up. Would it be easier on the controllers if some of them flew in a formation and grouped? They could use the callsign Exodus even
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