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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Fitting that the book is called Scumbag.

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Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Quality of the work and quality of the person are so often divorced. Compare this to the way Millar treats his artists and co-creators and it’s night and day.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Kalli posted:

Looks to me like Lewis expected royalties on the work he did on the apparently very successful The Scumbag, but instead Remender ghosted him.

In response to the other creators pointing out instances of being shafted on royalties.

Remender also apparently accused the artist of lying about his illness/injury.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.
Did Remender cleanse his Twitter or am I just not able to load his tweets for some reason?

https://twitter.com/remender?lang=en

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Did Remender cleanse his Twitter or am I just not able to load his tweets for some reason?

https://twitter.com/remender?lang=en

It’s looking like he did a mass delete of tweets just now, which, maybe doesn’t pain the best picture

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib

X-O posted:

I don't know anything of Larosa personally but his art is pretty loving great and he clearly puts a lot of time into it. It's a drat shame Remender is doing that to him, if it's what it appears to be.

His artwork was about the only good thing in that terrible comic.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Well, time to end my sub to Scumbag.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Endless Mike posted:

Well, time to end my sub to Scumbag.

Yeah, that did it for Deadly Class. Sorry Wes Craig, assuming you were getting paid.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

https://twitter.com/evandorkin/status/1418664835663937538?s=21

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Yeah, that did it for Deadly Class. Sorry Wes Craig, assuming you were getting paid.

https://twitter.com/WesCraigComics/status/1418638471934189571


Oof.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


https://twitter.com/Short_Box/status/1419960795790708738?s=20

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I somehow keep forgetting that "Holy Terror" book exists. At first I was just thinking "I'm sure he said some lovely things after 9/11 but pulling out seems extre... Oh, right, now I get it."

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


I do believe Miller eventually came out and apologised for the hateful anti-Muslim bigotry he spent the decade after 9/11 spouting. And Holy Terror is out of print everywhere now and not even available on Comixology, so I think he's ready to bury that too.

I don't mean to invalidate the head of ShortBox, though. I think it sends a bad message to invite a noted (former) Islamophobe to a comic convention before he's paid proper penance for his former actions.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
Apologised? Did he? I found this:

quote:

Does he have any regrets? “I don’t want to go back and start erasing books I did,” he replies. “I don’t want to wipe out chapters of my own biography. But I’m not capable of that book again.”
which is a pretty loving weak "apology" for the hate crime of a book that was Holy Terror. "Oh well it was in the past, won't do it again" at best is pretending it was less terrible than it was, at worst is an acknowledgement of the fact that he wouldn't be able to get away with it now.
He worked on that book for something like five goddamn years- this wasn't a tweet he made off the cuff or an interview quote taken out of context, it was an entire book he brazenly sold with the stated intent of it being anti-Muslim propaganda, at a time when hate crime was absolutely off the charts.

Shortbox, on the other hand, are at the loving forefront of indie titles and are a huge boon to the UK Indie scene and comics in general. Their work is at the core of what Thought Bubble claims to stand for and to rate this old-rear end racist over her is utterly horrifying.

I wouldn't trade Shortbox for a hundred thousand Frank Millers.

Kojiro fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jul 27, 2021

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Plus also there's Miller's literal enitre ouvre of misogyny

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
https://twitter.com/ThoughtBubbleUK/status/1420316131617804289

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Holy poo poo, they're doing the right thing?

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
And taking poo poo from the alt-right crowd for it, of course

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
To be expected at this point.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.



I'm glad to see they listened. Took them awfully long to take action, but at least they did in the end.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ThoughtBubbleUK/status/1420320698850021381?s=20

They seem genuine at least. They’re all over the replies too apologizing for it taking so long.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
This was posted before Thought Bubble made their announcement, but baring them doing some serious reaching out I doubt Short Box will be attending anyways.

https://twitter.com/Short_Box/status/1420290108276760579?s=19

tenshianna
Oct 31, 2012

It's just absolutely hosed that the damage has been done. All the apologies in the world aren't going to do poo poo and, in fact, are just going to send yet ANOTHER wave of hurt on Zainab. I'm just so loving tired of this trash industry. "We will do better" means "We are waiting for you to forget this"

As genuine as their apologies may be, the reality is that there's an entire culture of people who see an apology and conclude that's proof of CAnCeL CuLturE GoNE MAd. They put themselves and Zainab (and several other Muslim creators, I might add) in a loving disgraceful position and I just feel stupid thinking TB were better than that?

I mean, all for Frank fuckin' Miller??

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

https://twitter.com/Short_Box/status/1420388809406099465?s=20

This really isn't a good look for TB which is really disappointing.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Yeah this is sketchy as all hell and someone needs to come clean with exactly who these "parties that were holding us back" were, and why it was allowed to get this far.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
jesus, gently caress Thought Bubble

also, interesting to see Kieron Gillen going to bad for Remender. I think Rick is an rear end in a top hat but I'm willing to consider that the Scumbag situation might not be as black and white as it was initially framed

https://twitter.com/excel522/status/1420441738251051013

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
RE: Thought bubble and Frank Miller, I forgot about this because I don't read DC much.

https://twitter.com/ronchronchronch/status/1420445025943658496?s=20

Edit: I should say, I'm probably never gonna watch another Polanski film, or rewatch one I've seen, but I ain't gonna disagree with someone who says Chinatown is a loving amazing film or fault a film maker for being heavily influenced by it.

Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jul 28, 2021

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

tom king was a literal cia agent who was on the ground in iraq but sure, him writing frank miller as a character in his book is what will get him cancelled

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Why people still give money to marvel or dc is beyond me.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
The portrayal of Frank Miller in Rorschach is not flattering. He's similarly radicalized by the Squid the same way Miller was in real life by 9/11 and he's out of his mind.

Foglet
Jun 17, 2014

Reality is an illusion.
The universe is a hologram.
Buy gold.

ruddiger posted:

Why people still give money to marvel or dc is beyond me.
Have you ever seen the Joker by Stjepan Šejić, say, in the Harleen three-issue miniseries
(spoiler: I still gave no money but oh god how much I do understand anyone who did)

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Somberbrero posted:

The portrayal of Frank Miller in Rorschach is not flattering. He's similarly radicalized by the Squid the same way Miller was in real life by 9/11 and he's out of his mind.

Yeah, to reiterate he's called a legend by the two ostensive "antagonists" of the book, both of whom died abjectly in the first issue, and he's portrayed as a paranoid and delusional idiot. The comic is not great and there are a dozen substantial critiques one could make of King but this is really taking something way out of context in a fairly disingenuous way on the part of whoever made that tweet.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

ruddiger posted:

Why people still give money to marvel or dc is beyond me.

Same reason people go to popular movies.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

✋😢Life's just better with Ominous Gloves🤗🧤
Comics is doing great this week, folks.

https://twitter.com/malissifent/status/1422982765725712384

https://twitter.com/HellaNarez/status/1422192609011904519

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


I really loving wish that comic creators weren't such unbelievable shitheads, because I love Prophet, have the first trade, and can't bring myself to buy the rest because of how much of a dick Brandon Graham is.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I really loving wish that comic creators weren't such unbelievable shitheads, because I love Prophet, have the first trade, and can't bring myself to buy the rest because of how much of a dick Brandon Graham is.

I would suggest buying the rest of the trades used, but with the way the comics market is that'll probably end up costing you more than buying new. :sweatdrop:

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010
When you're buying a box to own the libs to hold one comic book that came out two years ago:

https://twitter.com/chloehandler/status/1423042691273826305?s=20

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!


Why is that almost every time I hear some rear end in a top hat in this respect being referred to as a "big deal" it seems like I've never heard of them? Is this just dude just a web comic guy? Maybe that's why.

JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


E the Shaggy posted:

When you're buying a box to own the libs to hold one comic book that came out two years ago:

https://twitter.com/chloehandler/status/1423042691273826305?s=20

That's an average of about $120 spent per backer on that first campaign. For a cardboard box with a magnet in it.

Incredible.

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Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


Man, I wish I could make $500k just by being a lazy rear end in a top hat. I've been doing it for free!

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