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Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Splitgate is pretty cool, makes you feel like a god damned tactical genius with how unawares you can catch people. :allears:

It's funny cause I kind of hated Portal but wow used offensively... I'm a bit more into the concept now!

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Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Back 4 Blood shows what out of ideas is like

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Junkie Disease posted:

Back 4 Blood shows what out of ideas is like

?

Is it bad? I've been interested, but haven't followed it very closely.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


ZearothK posted:

?

Is it bad? I've been interested, but haven't followed it very closely.

It’s just a worse Left 4 Dead in every way. Literally no redeemable features.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

ZearothK posted:

?

Is it bad? I've been interested, but haven't followed it very closely.

A semi-closed beta is currently going on, and it's... very 7/10. It's generally competent, but doesn't really capture what made Left 4 Dead so memorable. Nor does it manage to really iterate on the genre's core concepts. It's mostly a plain L4D clone with some bits and bobs bolted on to it, like a weapon attachment system. They also completely whiffed the PvP mode. For F2P game it'd be fine, as a full price title it's laughable.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Palpek posted:

Holy loving poo poo Splitgate. Giving portal guns to everybody in my generic sci-fi multiplayer shooter was a stroke of genius. I'm way late too this but it's insanely fun.

Im playing it p much every day, would be fun to get a group of people playing

I keep hovering a platinum 1, I can't seem to go any higher solo queue

dbzfandiego
Sep 17, 2011

ZearothK posted:

?

Is it bad? I've been interested, but haven't followed it very closely.

Is has like 3 systems that just exist to be bigger number but the gameplay is just worse L4D and the bigger number systems dont add anything at all. Cards, character unique traits and a weapon rarity system that add "RPG" elements without really justifying themselves. Its real baffling and feels skivvy, like WB is going to insert a whole bunch bullshit to fill in the cracks.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Nothing shows what they learned between lfd2 and today. It's dire how plain this is

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Lol if the aliens game ends up being better than back 4 blood

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
I can pretty much agree with those sentiments, I've played the beta and it honestly just makes me want to play L4D2 again instead.

The cards you start out with are like... so uninteresting it hurts. It's like +10% ammo, +5 health, yadda yadda. You can find more interesting ones during actual runs, but... those are random. It doesn't feel like you're making a proper build, you're just picking random poo poo.

Oh and some of those will be supposedly locked behind season passes too.

The guns are like... whatever. It literally does not need a rarity system or the attachments or whatever. You pick up a gun and shoot zombies. Of note is that like almost every gun is hyper accurate (including shotguns losing spread when you aim down the sights).

The PVP mode is a goddamn joke and would have been 300% better as a straight up port from L4D.

But yeah the monetization already looks like the Evolve one which does kind of raise flags. Like, did they learn nothing?

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

I've played through the B4B beta campaign and yeah, I'm glad it's a day one release on Game Pass for PC lol. No way I was buying that poo poo.

How!
Oct 29, 2009

BrianRx posted:

I'm looking for a recommendation for something that I can play on the couch with my wife as "copilot" (no controller, just participating in decisions). The last game we really liked in this vein was Walking Dead Season 1. I guess it would be something story heavy with branching dialogue/narrative with limited gameplay that wouldn't be boring to watch. I played a bit of that android one made by the Indigo Prophecy weirdos and that seemed like it fit the bill, but it's really unstable on my system. Most important would be good writing (like good in other mediums, not just good for a video game) and a compelling story. I think "Life Is Strange" is at least in form what I'm looking for, but I haven't heard many opinions about the story.

Edit: we also tried Wolf Among Us but the fantasy/fable thing didn't really click. But nearly exactly that. I'm not sure that Telltale put out anything else that's well regarded.

I'd like to hear your thoughts so I can tell you why your opinion is Objectively Wrong.

Do you like campy teen horror films? Until Dawn was a lot of fun- even my wife enjoyed it and she’s a video game hater.

.random
May 7, 2007

Tbf, the name is even vastly inferior. I had no hope.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Junkie Disease posted:

Back 4 Blood shows what out of ideas is like
More like Covered in Blood.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Welp, thanks for the replies, guess B4B is a miss and Splitgate is a hit.

Rogue AI Goddess
May 10, 2012

I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?
I like Dreamscaper so far, but its themes of queer sadness and isolation are a bit too relatable.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1454400/Cookie_Clicker/

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


:siren: Ok, I couldn't find one, so I created a Splitgate thread: :siren:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3975900

Go read what the buzz is about or whatever.

Darkhold
Feb 19, 2011

No Heart❤️
No Soul👻
No Service🙅
Thinking about picking up the Humble Montly for Bloodstained but are any of the other games worth it? I don't think I've heard of any of the others.

Carto looks the most interesting but the rest look like garbage.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Darkhold posted:

Thinking about picking up the Humble Montly for Bloodstained but are any of the other games worth it? I don't think I've heard of any of the others.

Carto looks the most interesting but the rest look like garbage.

Superliminal is apparently a cool short puzzler
We Need to Go Deeper is goonmade co-op submarine silliness
As Far As The Eye is a weird city-building roguelike? Thing? I'm not sure
Cepheus Protocol is a fun/cool RTS with zombies and active indie devs. I enjoyed poking at it last year and will enjoy poking it again when it comes out of early access
Drake Hollow is a Nintendo 64 game in disguise, it's an action-platformer collector-thing that I bounced off of as it seems to be aimed at preteens / more casual than I want. Which isn't a bad thing, just a taste thing.
Nowhere Prophet is a deckbuilding roguelike in the style of FTL with nodes you travel to and bullshit bosses and an AMAZING aesthetic

BrianRx
Jul 21, 2007

How! posted:

Do you like campy teen horror films? Until Dawn was a lot of fun- even my wife enjoyed it and she’s a video game hater.

Just about to try it! I read some reviews about it last night and it looks promising. I think it's going to depend on how seriously it tries to take itself with its premise (if I understand, it's about a group of friends going up to party in a creepy, inaccessible cabin to celebrate the anniversary of... some of their other friends mysteriously disappearing in the same area?) It seems fun.

Based just on the demo I've played, I have high hopes for Detroit: Become Human. I love pretty much everything derived from "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", but it seems more serious so it's really going to live or die by the quality of its writing and storytelling.

I'm saving Obra Djinn for last because I think it's going to be a slam dunk.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


BrianRx posted:

Based just on the demo I've played, I have high hopes for Detroit: Become Human. I love pretty much everything derived from "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", but it seems more serious so it's really going to live or die by the quality of its writing and storytelling.

Oh buddy, you don't know anything about David Cage do you?

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


To be fair it's his best game. At least it offers some solid story reactivity.

BrianRx
Jul 21, 2007
Separate post for a separate subject. I don't really have strong opinions about video games (if it's fun, I play it, if not, I don't) but after playing Battlefield V's single player campaign and Far Cry 4 back to back, I hate hate HATE unskippable cutscenes in action games. If it's something story driven, it's understandable, but I just want to shoot Nazis and skin animals and stuff. Writing also seems to be the thing studios spend the least amount of time and money on, so why showcase it so prominently?

BrianRx
Jul 21, 2007

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

Oh buddy, you don't know anything about David Cage do you?

Uh oh. No, I do not. I know it's the same studio, but If he was involved in Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit I may have made a terrible mistake...

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

BrianRx posted:

Uh oh. No, I do not. I know it's the same studio, but If he was involved in Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit I may have made a terrible mistake...

Yeah, David Cage is the founder/ceo and lead writer/director for Quantic Dreams. Very much a notorious "auteur".

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Aug 8, 2021

Veotax
May 16, 2006


BrianRx posted:

Uh oh. No, I do not. I know it's the same studio, but If he was involved in Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit I may have made a terrible mistake...

He is pretty much the lead dev and writer on every game that studio has produced, AFAIK.

He's also a piece of poo poo, allegedly.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-06-22-quantic-dream-and-union-at-odds-over-grotesque-trial

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

There was also a whole thing in Beyond: Two Souls where Elliot Page refused to do a nude scene, but Cage just put Page's ingame head model on a generic nude body and did the scene anyway.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

BrianRx posted:

. If it's something story driven, it's understandable,

No it’s not, unskippable cutscenes are always bullshit (minor exclusion given for loading scenes disguised as cutscenes)

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Perestroika posted:

There was also a whole thing in Beyond: Two Souls where Elliot Page refused to do a nude scene, but Cage just put Page's ingame head model on a generic nude body and did the scene anyway.

The buried detail is there was a specific contract agreement that forbid those nude scenes, and David Cage went ahead and had the scene made anyways and it didn't appear in the game. The original FMV scene only showed from the neck up, there was no need to fully realistically model the nude body after there was legal language forbidding it.

Gives a pretty good slice of his perception of women and consent at the least.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Perestroika posted:

There was also a whole thing in Beyond: Two Souls where Elliot Page refused to do a nude scene, but Cage just put Page's ingame head model on a generic nude body and did the scene anyway.

The audacity of Cage citing this game when trying to say "look I can't be homophobic, i worked with queer people" was so loving galling especially because of this

BrianRx
Jul 21, 2007
Well poo poo, PSN has a pretty stingy return policy that this doesn't qualify for. Oh well. Until Dawn is kind of neat, I guess. Am I supposed to be trying to kill specific characters? Because I'm a few hours in and I've had about enough of four of them. Everyone's surprisingly lighthearted given the reason they're up there, but I guess tonal dissonance is part of camp horror. I'm curious to see how my early decisions are going to play out later in the story.

Also, pretty sure the brother, Josh, is trying to exact some kind of revenge on his friends. Or shoot a porno, he's pretty invested in other people getting laid.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Darkhold posted:

Thinking about picking up the Humble Montly for Bloodstained but are any of the other games worth it? I don't think I've heard of any of the others.

Carto looks the most interesting but the rest look like garbage.
You really can't go wrong with Superliminal. A fun puzzle game where you make objects tiny or massive by holding them. If you don't want that, PM me for a talk.

Scalding Coffee fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 9, 2021

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Whooo wants weird steam drama?

Warzone 2100 is a super old RTS from the 90s that's pretty cool - modular units, a campaign where you build one base and use it as a hub to send units to the maps you're trying to conquer - and it's free and open-source!

https://wz2100.net/

Now, the drama: it's also been released on steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1241950/Warzone_2100/

.... but not by the main open source team. It's some random dude who keeps pulling the public releases and putting them on steam. He doesn't listen to them asking him to stop, and well I'll just quote their announcement from the discord:

quote:

A brief summary of the history of the Steam build, and the individual who uploaded it:
- We reached out prior to his release with an offer to collaborate, and raising potential concerns and issues. He was fairly unreceptive and is now largely unresponsive.
- He packaged the 3.3.0 public release, but incorrectly, so we can’t really even help debug issues with it.
- Legitimate questions / concerns on the Steam forums continue to go missing (i.e. are deleted), instead of being addressed, as relayed to us by numerous community members.
- At the moment we're far more focused on working on improving the game and the infrastructure around it to support all of our new contributors.
- So we encourage folks to avoid the Steam release and just download directly from wz2100.net, GitHub, or SourceForge.

As the steam version is free I genuinely do not understand why this dude is doing this. What benefit does he get? Why has he been doing it for over a year now?

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

StrixNebulosa posted:

Whooo wants weird steam drama?

Warzone 2100 is a super old RTS from the 90s that's pretty cool - modular units, a campaign where you build one base and use it as a hub to send units to the maps you're trying to conquer - and it's free and open-source!

https://wz2100.net/

Now, the drama: it's also been released on steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1241950/Warzone_2100/

.... but not by the main open source team. It's some random dude who keeps pulling the public releases and putting them on steam. He doesn't listen to them asking him to stop, and well I'll just quote their announcement from the discord:

As the steam version is free I genuinely do not understand why this dude is doing this. What benefit does he get? Why has he been doing it for over a year now?

Internet points? Recognition?

I've seen it over and over (and over) again in various modding communities.

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.

BrianRx posted:

Well poo poo, PSN has a pretty stingy return policy that this doesn't qualify for. Oh well. Until Dawn is kind of neat, I guess. Am I supposed to be trying to kill specific characters? Because I'm a few hours in and I've had about enough of four of them. Everyone's surprisingly lighthearted given the reason they're up there, but I guess tonal dissonance is part of camp horror. I'm curious to see how my early decisions are going to play out later in the story.

You're not *supposed* to kill characters, but I think the game wants you to feel OK with losing a few if the chips fall that way.

I will say that, for me, my opinion of some of the kids changed as the game went on and they showed different sides to their characters. Some characters I adored at first and came to adore less, others I initially hated but later came to respect.

Hub Cat
Aug 3, 2011

Trunk Lover

KakerMix posted:

Internet points? Recognition?

I've seen it over and over (and over) again in various modding communities.

yeah lol, this is like a 3/10 for open-source drama. It's a dick move but at least they were nice enough to (mostly) follow the terms of the license

Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Aug 9, 2021

Omi no Kami
Feb 19, 2014


My favorite David Cage thing has always been that press conference where he's sitting with Willem Dafoe and Elliot Page, two actors who are famously easy to work with and generally chill guys, and both of them look like they're trying to figure out how to melt through the chairs so they can get out of frame and run away:

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

willem is smiling brightly in that image. he is the lord of hollows

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Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

BrianRx posted:

Uh oh. No, I do not. I know it's the same studio, but If he was involved in Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit I may have made a terrible mistake...

You've already discovered it but fukkin :lol:

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