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PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Diabolik900 posted:

What gets me is that it was the therapist’s idea.

Yeah, it didn't come in the episode I watched last night, but Deb tells the therapist for the first time that Dexter is her adopted brother not a blood relation, and there's a humongous shift in the therapists' demeanor like she's all of a sudden very intrigued by this.

The therapist is super lovely at her job. Like every scene she basically acts like your know-it-all friend who's very pushy about their suggestions for how you should live your life. It seems like it was written by someone who's never been to therapy and thinks a therapist is the same as a life coach or something.

PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Sep 1, 2021

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

"I've tracked Miles Miller to his job at the grocery store. He deals with meat, but I think it's about time he gets to meat my cleaver. It'll be the wurst pain he'll ever feel but I'll make it clean. You've never sausage a clean kill like what I'm planning.

Salami."

Flight Bisque
Feb 23, 2008

There is, surprisingly, always hope.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

"I've tracked Miles Miller to his job at the grocery store. He deals with meat, but I think it's about time he gets to meat my cleaver. It'll be the wurst pain he'll ever feel but I'll make it clean. You've never sausage a clean kill like what I'm planning.

Salami."

"Maybe it's time for a new tack, I can start having all my kills be meat themed. They'll call me the Gaba-Ghoul."

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

PostNouveau posted:

It seems like it was written by someone who's never been to therapy and thinks a therapist is the same as a life coach or something.

reminder that "dexter is 'a perfect psychopath' (meant as a compliment) because sometimes he expresses a feeling" was the opinion of one of the leading in-universe scholars of psychology

I think the show's ignorance on therapy and psychology extends a fair bit farther than dr. pornhub.

w0o0o0o
Aug 26, 2007
bloop.
Dexter, staring at his next victim from a parked car just down the road:

"Turns out Clappy Barksgone works as a tree surgeon; left unchecked, that willow won't be the only thing getting limbs sawn off today *Clappy glances menacingly at to-be victim*

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

reminder that "dexter is 'a perfect psychopath' (meant as a compliment) because sometimes he expresses a feeling" was the opinion of one of the leading in-universe scholars of psychology

I think the show's ignorance on therapy and psychology extends a fair bit farther than dr. pornhub.

In a lot of ways, Dexter is sort of the anti-Sopranos.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!

w0o0o0o posted:

Dexter, staring at his next victim from a parked car just down the road:

"Turns out Clappy Barksgone works as a tree surgeon; left unchecked, that willow won't be the only thing getting limbs sawn off today *Clappy glances menacingly at to-be victim*

I can just hear Roger from american dad introducing himself "The name's Clappy Barksgone, tree surgeon!"

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


PostNouveau posted:

Yeah, it didn't come in the episode I watched last night, but Deb tells the therapist for the first time that Dexter is her adopted brother not a blood relation, and there's a humongous shift in the therapists' demeanor like she's all of a sudden very intrigued by this.

The therapist is super lovely at her job. Like every scene she basically acts like your know-it-all friend who's very pushy about their suggestions for how you should live your life. It seems like it was written by someone who's never been to therapy and thinks a therapist is the same as a life coach or something.

The therapist is the personification of the writer’s room and they only started doing this plot line after Carpenter and Hall divorced in real life jus to have a laugh.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Dexter you killed my lover. If I were to live 1000 years I will never forget that. I will escape this prison and hunt you down no matter where you may hide.... unless you can kill these assassins for me, then we will become best friends.

JaddaCaddra
Oct 3, 2013

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

The therapist is the personification of the writer’s room and they only started doing this plot line after Carpenter and Hall divorced in real life jus to have a laugh.

This, 100%. There's no way the writers weren't just loving around with them.

As great as that is, I think my favorite dropped plot has to be the nerd. I know we were discussing that a few pages back, but seriously, it's great. They spend half a season building toward something and it's just nerd rage in the end. Behind the scenes, it was actually supposed to end with the guy being a copycat killer who had caught onto Dexter, but apparently Hall (or at least I think it was him?) objected to the idea because he thought the notion of two serial killers working for one police department was "too unrealistic."

Like yeah, Miami is apparently filled to the brim with serial killers that have elaborate MOs and over a dozen victims each but nah, can't have two working under the noses of the world's most incompetent police department. That would just be silly.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
That was also the plot of the book Double Dexter except I don't recall if the copycat nerd in that one was police.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

"I've tracked Miles Miller to his job at the grocery store. He deals with meat, but I think it's about time he gets to meat my cleaver. It'll be the wurst pain he'll ever feel but I'll make it clean. You've never sausage a clean kill like what I'm planning.

Salami."

Angie Tribeca really ended too soon.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
One of the most unbelievable parts of Season 6 is Jaime's patience. There's no way that kid doesn't think she's his mother and Dexter is just some dude who comes around on rare occasions.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

PostNouveau posted:

One of the most unbelievable parts of Season 6 is Jaime's patience. There's no way that kid doesn't think she's his mother and Dexter is just some dude who comes around on rare occasions.

I’m about halfway through season eight now and it doesn’t get any better. They had the nanny in season five actually call him out on this behavior, then they just replaced her with a new one who will just go along with it between seasons.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Diabolik900 posted:

I’m about halfway through season eight now and it doesn’t get any better. They had the nanny in season five actually call him out on this behavior, then they just replaced her with a new one who will just go along with it between seasons.

Man, I assumed Hannah was gonna give them an out. But I guess she can't be trusted with dangerous things like treadmills all over the place.

Also :rip: Mike Anderson, the only competent detective at Miami Metro besides Deb

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Tableau

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

what the gently caress is this

speak english, city boy

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
I feel like instead of an overly detailed nanny plotline they could have just had Dexter occasionally have a nanny and have most of the story take place on a time scale that implies that Dexter is actually just at home most nights on average, but that would make sense and involve less padding of the show with nanny scenes.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Nep-Nep posted:

I feel like instead of an overly detailed nanny plotline they could have just had Dexter occasionally have a nanny and have most of the story take place on a time scale that implies that Dexter is actually just at home most nights on average, but that would make sense and involve less padding of the show with nanny scenes.

This would work a lot better I'm sure. You just see random sitters who don't say anything.

Instead for some reason, she's Angel's much younger sister and dating the weirdo intern guy

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Quinn dating the babysitter reminds me of this (Breaking Bad spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwV6gZcSH8

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Nep-Nep posted:

Quinn dating the babysitter reminds me of this (Breaking Bad spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwV6gZcSH8

I completely forgot this happens.

Angel in Season 6 gets into a fistfight with Quinn and tries to have him transferred out of homicide. I assume he has like one scene where he's like "You're dating my sister? Grrrr" and then it's papered over.

Shitty Treat
Feb 21, 2012

Stoopid?
Has anyone watched many trailers for shows premiering/returning this year?
This reboot may not be the worst thing on TV this year

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

PostNouveau posted:

This would work a lot better I'm sure. You just see random sitters who don't say anything.

Instead for some reason, she's Angel's much younger sister and dating the weirdo intern guy

Outside wanting a consistent nanny out of guilt for Rita and wanting Harrison to have a normal around, bringing in the same person to observe your general behavior is stupid as gently caress — let alone someone who is literal family of the other people who see you most. Having a rotation of don't care sitters who aren't interested about your life outside of if the television has HBO or aren't around long enough to pick up on stuff is the unbelievably less suicidal solution.

Honestly a foreign nanny who doesn't speak English super well or is just from out of the country and not going to pick up on how alien you ( used to be in early seasons ) are is a better choice if it needs to be a nanny.

The show sort of becomes less logicality garbage if after Rita's death all of Dexter's actions are driven out of a desire to get caught rather than for his kids.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Old Doggy Bastard posted:

bringing in the same person to observe your general behavior is stupid as gently caress — let alone someone who is literal family of the other people who see you most.

She’s Batista’s sister and she dates two different people who work in the department. There are so many opportunities for her to say something about Dexter working late to someone who knows for a fact that it isn’t true. Just monumentally stupid.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

In the slightly-paraphrased words of Janosz Poha, portrayed by Peter McNicoll, in Ghostbusters 2, "Everything they're doing is bad; I want you to know this."

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Diabolik900 posted:

She’s Batista’s sister and she dates two different people who work in the department. There are so many opportunities for her to say something about Dexter working late to someone who knows for a fact that it isn’t true. Just monumentally stupid.

He's never at work during the day either. Jaime and Deb could put this together if they talked to each other for 5 minutes in Season 6 (instead they fight about some bullshit).

TheDestructinator
Jul 18, 2006
I don't know what people's issue is with the Laguerta bench, this seems tastefully done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76HzKFWWd88

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H1uSS_zkk&t=1s

I convinced the only twist is which episode we'll get ghost Doakes in

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

George H.W. oval office posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H1uSS_zkk&t=1s

I convinced the only twist is which episode we'll get ghost Doakes in

That music.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
At least it looks like someone cared to direct it

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

George H.W. oval office posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H1uSS_zkk&t=1s

I convinced the only twist is which episode we'll get ghost Doakes in

I cannot believe that the scene with the cop stopping him made me perk up with interest for the briefest of moments

God drat this show and what it's done to me

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
I hope the twist is that Deb didn't really die somehow (it doesn't have to make sense) and has just been following Dexter around and he assumes she's not real.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

George H.W. oval office posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9H1uSS_zkk&t=1s

I convinced the only twist is which episode we'll get ghost Doakes in

so they've thrown out everything about the character? now hes just a normal friendly dude that manages to not kill people... somehow? up until he needs to KILL A BAD GUY!! i never watched the last two seasons I'm assuming he was murderin right up to the end.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

The Walrus posted:

so they've thrown out everything about the character? now hes just a normal friendly dude that manages to not kill people... somehow? up until he needs to KILL A BAD GUY!! i never watched the last two seasons I'm assuming he was murderin right up to the end.

He was, and one time, it happened IN FRONT OF QUINN AND BATISTA, and they just looked disappointed.

Dexter: No one cares, who gives a poo poo.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Hello father, it’s me, your son

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Nep-Nep posted:

I hope the twist is that Deb didn't really die somehow (it doesn't have to make sense) and has just been following Dexter around and he assumes she's not real.

I know I keep harping on the ghost logic, but she's shown looking over a bunch of evidence spread around on the floor

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016

don't mind me, just dating someone who looks exactly like my dead sister! same job and everything

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

The Walrus posted:

so they've thrown out everything about the character? now hes just a normal friendly dude that manages to not kill people... somehow? up until he needs to KILL A BAD GUY!! i never watched the last two seasons I'm assuming he was murderin right up to the end.

People love to poo poo on the ending, but there was a lot of good poo poo leading up to it, too.

Like just before the end, he's about to kill the season's other serial killer that he finally tracked down, but then he realizes that he has a really hot girlfriend he can trust and therefore he doesn't need to kill anymore. Incidentally, said girlfriend tried to kill Deb multiple times and was currently fleeing to Argentina with his son because she had to take him to the ER after babysitting him for half a day and got made, a real winner.

Anyways there's a big ol' fanfare, Ghost Harry says this time he's cured for real and fades away, and instead of killing the guy, Dexter just ties him up and leaves him for the police to arrest. The guy gets free and shoots Deb, who goes into a coma and is eventually declared brain dead. Dexter goes to see the guy in jail and stabs him dead in the interview room, but Quinn and Batista, being cops, file this as a clear case of self-defense. The last thing he does before heading off to lumberjack life is kidnap Deb, take her off life support, and dump her in the harbor.

It's this kind of deep symbology and nuance you are missing.

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

It is very important to point out that he doesn't dump her into the harbor

He takes her into the hurricane that shares the name of his dead mother

SYMOBLISM

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Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
jesus i forgot about Hurricane Dead Mom

i'm so ashamed

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