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IAMKOREA posted:Idea i just had: citizen science for climate change. I'm coming to terms with the end of my career as a chemical engineer working in the oil and gas industry. I quit my job because I couldn't handle helping companies produce more oil and i don't think I'm going to get another one. But what to do now? lol lmao
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Sep 27, 2021 22:18
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IAMKOREA posted:Idea i just had: citizen science for climate change. I'm coming to terms with the end of my career as a chemical engineer working in the oil and gas industry. I quit my job because I couldn't handle helping companies produce more oil and i don't think I'm going to get another one. But what to do now? i mean like if BM is all grift, and your plan is no grift, sounds like you're left with nothing. you can be a youtuber or start a leftist survivalist network, but we dont really need anymore science, no one is listening to the science we already have
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Sep 27, 2021 22:18
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IAMKOREA posted:Idea i just had: citizen science for climate change. I'm coming to terms with the end of my career as a chemical engineer working in the oil and gas industry. I quit my job because I couldn't handle helping companies produce more oil and i don't think I'm going to get another one. But what to do now? https://inhabit.global/ Stay quite. Gather a crew. Get ready for the new world.
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Sep 27, 2021 22:19
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hey...i just realized...this thread got me laughing again 
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Sep 27, 2021 22:20
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IAMKOREA posted:Idea i just had: ... Any thoughts? It don't matter Nonadis matters
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Sep 27, 2021 22:20
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Okay so a couple of things. First, I wouldn’t expect this hypothetical project to change anything. It is more about bearing witness. Similar to how vegan activists stand on the side of the road as trucks full of pigs drive into slaughterhouses. Why do it? I have no loving idea. But it seems like maybe it is a thing you could do that wouldn’t be that bad to do and might even feel good to do. Why else do anything at all? And imagine how crazy it would drive the libs. quote:we dont really need anymore science, no one is listening to the science we already have The people who ‘listen to the science’ don’t listen to the science. I’m still crack pinging from this post I made yesterday: IAMKOREA posted:Planet of the Humans is definitely on my to watch list after going to its Wikipedia page. What I see all around me are people who are convinced that technology will save us. Direct air capture, carbon capture, electric cars, zero waste, buzzword bingo bullshit. Seriously, read those lib articles arguing against 'Planet of the Humans'. Insanity. They can't imagine a world where they don't get to just consume nonstop. It’s all loving bullshit. Solar, wind, etc… it’s all grift, all the way down. Maybe if we could prove it was grift, someone would go crazy enough to murder a billionaire. Wouldn’t that make it all worth it? e: you gotta admit, there's nothing like it, is there? a straight up scientific refutation of all the loving green grifting that is going on right now? all of it designed to keep us consuming, consuming, consuming... again please look at the wikipedia article i quote, and the 'citations' 25, 26, and 27. it's all such transparent bullshit once you scratch the surface. those articles that the wiki claims constitute a 'body of research' are completely hollow. there's nothing there. we're all hosed, but if you tell people a body of research [32-34] says we are actually okay and even going to be great, they will believe it. bibliography: 32: gently caress 33: you 34: idiot, lmao IAMKOREA has issued a correction as of 22:39 on Sep 27, 2021 |
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Sep 27, 2021 22:34
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quote:To meet global demand, agriculture will need to produce almost 50 per cent more food by 2050. However, yields could decline by 30 per cent in the absence of dramatic emissions reductions. By 2040, the average proportion of global cropland affected by severe drought will likely rise to 32 per cent a year, more than three times the historic average. gnarly dude fuckin wicked
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Sep 27, 2021 22:39
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IAMKOREA posted:e: you gotta admit, there's nothing like it, is there? a straight up scientific refutation of all the loving green grifting that is going on right now? all of it designed to keep us consuming, consuming, consuming... again please look at the wikipedia article i quote, and the 'citations' 25, 26, and 27. it's all such transparent bullshit once you scratch the surface. those articles that the wiki claims constitute a 'body of research' are completely hollow. there's nothing there. we're all hosed, but if you tell people a body of research [32-34] says we are actually okay and even going to be great, they will believe it. like i might disagree with you about the specifics of the calculations of the life cycle analysis used to underlie some of your statements, but what the gently caress does that matter. even if minds were changed worldviews wouldnt be. no no no, if you want to really rile up the psyche, you don't dive into the details of the bureaucracy of evil, you focus on the personal. focus on the local. learn the climate change losses to your community first, know which swimming holes will go dry, which vistas will be barren, which neighborhoods will die first in the fire. then spread your painful gospel like a merciless god. a cassandra for all ages. like a cruel angel, young boy, become the legend!
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Sep 27, 2021 23:08
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7 degrees of warming my god, it’s no wonder the media just doesn’t report on anything but 1.5
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Sep 27, 2021 23:16
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Jel Shaker posted:7 degrees of warming my god, it’s no wonder the media just doesn’t report on anything but 1.5 At my job we have a short-hand phrase for a strategy to avoid any accountability where you intentionally set an objective that people generally believe is impossible so that you always talk about how you're not going to succeed at that but no one really cares because they knew it was impossible all along and at the same time, you suck all the air out of the room to talk about what the hell is actually happening because you've eaten every status report and meeting on talking about why the impossible objective you set isn't on track.
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Sep 27, 2021 23:24
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I remember when people thought RCP 8.5 was nearly impossible. Now were going to blow right past it like nothing.
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Sep 27, 2021 23:59
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Xeom posted:I remember when people thought RCP 8.5 was nearly impossible. Now were going to blow right past it like nothing. There were months, years, of arguments on these forums about how only lunatics would claim RCP 8.5 was possible. It wasn't even worth considering! We are on track for RCP 2.6.
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Sep 28, 2021 00:37
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Honestly this year put everything into perspective. I never thought we would stop at RCP 2.6, but just blowing past RCP 8.5 as if it was standing still has really blown my mind. We saw poo poo this year that wasn't even slated for another 100 years. 120F in Canada. What in the world.
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Sep 28, 2021 00:48
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Xeom posted:I remember when people thought RCP 8.5 was nearly impossible. Now were going to blow right past it like nothing. Rectal Death Adept posted:There were months, years, of arguments on these forums about how only lunatics would claim RCP 8.5 was possible. Here again, the problem isn’t that they’re wrong, RCP 8.5 itself is basically impossible. But that doesn’t mean that a scenario as bad as RCP 8.5 is also impossible. The RCP are just curves defining dirty clouds over time, being possible or likely was never their goal. If we didn’t have a breakdown in epistemology because our experts lied too much this wouldn’t be an issue. We shouldn’t have to know what RCP 8.5 if our society was functioning correctly. But we can’t trust the experts so we much become experts except we really can so we argue and write blog posts about RCP 8.5 being impossible or not while missing that the question is useless.
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Sep 28, 2021 00:48
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lmao the D&D thread used to probe people for being doomer for seriously considering RCP 8.5 and talk about reduction in consumer goods to try to stave it off.
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Sep 28, 2021 00:48
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it’s like we’re dying of alcoholism and there was a model of “what if we drank 100 gallons of vodka in a day” and we just couldn’t do that. But doesn’t mean there aren’t other ways to drink outselves to death just as quickly
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Sep 28, 2021 00:51
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The Oldest Man posted:At my job we have a short-hand phrase for a strategy to avoid any accountability where you intentionally set an objective that people generally believe is impossible so that you always talk about how you're not going to succeed at that but no one really cares because they knew it was impossible all along and at the same time, you suck all the air out of the room to talk about what the hell is actually happening because you've eaten every status report and meeting on talking about why the impossible objective you set isn't on track. Tell us the phrase
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Sep 28, 2021 00:54
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Trabisnikof posted:Here again, the problem isn’t that they’re wrong, RCP 8.5 itself is basically impossible. i can't imagine being this pedantic of a shitlib at the end of the world.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:00
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Alobar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRS9Bz0IH54 hey cool another Ceschi fan.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:01
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Xeom posted:i can't imagine being this pedantic of a shitlib at the end of the world. end of the world seems as fine a time as any, at least you're not ruining the party. someone already poo poo in the punch bowl.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:10
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what is obvious is that we are done regardless of climate change. cc is just an accelerant. we have already killed the world. we have wiped out most of the life on this planet and, in doing so, we have disrupted every long won ecosystem on earth. we are at the zenith of an apocalyptic intake of power laid down eons ago and every environmentalist and green activist who chants for renewable energy is deluded into thinking we can carry on this ride into hell. we dig, scrape and suck everything and it's so cruel. i hate that we'll take everything down with us. gently caress the mind.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:49
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Rapacity posted:i hate that we'll take everything down with us. Life on Earth is resilient, and has so far survived all previous mass extinction events. We just won't be there to see what emerges next.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:51
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ It's like a web 2.0 Steal This Book, cool
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Sep 28, 2021 01:59
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ That's some real impressively hyper concentrated amero-centric cope bargaining, thank you, I needed a solid LMAO at the end of my day. 
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Sep 28, 2021 02:23
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Rapacity posted:what is obvious is that we are done regardless of climate change. cc is just an accelerant. 
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Sep 28, 2021 02:28
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I bet Bezos and Musk have each already launched their own versions of the Voyager complete with golden records containing photos and audio recordings of themselves. Gotta make sure the aliens know that they were big important men.
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Sep 28, 2021 02:37
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Rapacity posted:what is obvious is that we are done regardless of climate change. cc is just an accelerant. it's unfathomable what we've done to the planet. a whole world of thriving life with verdant fields and vast blue seas and we've killed all of it. why? because we could, really. honestly, that's the thing that gets me the most. like the end of the planet of the humans documentary with the orangutan just kind of struggling and almost drowning in the mess we created. i like to think that animals can't grasp what's happening, but i don't think that's true.
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Sep 28, 2021 02:37
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ I mean this in the kindest way possible, and I know I am tilting at windmills a little bit here by trying to convince you or anyone, but this reads like the bargaining phase of grief. We can't really change what's coming. That's already baked in. Worse, it seems likely we are just going to keep accelerating. I say this not to be a doomer but to try and help you understand that the only choice you, I, or anyone else in this thread has now is to decide how we want to go out. What we want to find meaning in. For me its being a witness. To hold on as long as I can and see as much as I can.
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Sep 28, 2021 02:46
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I mean, some people might see some kind of existential meaning in watching this but I'm just staring into the window giggling because it scratches my curiosity itch 
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Sep 28, 2021 02:57
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Complications posted:I mean, some people might see some kind of existential meaning in watching this but I'm just staring into the window giggling because it scratches my curiosity itch yeah it's like slowing down when you drive by a wreck but instead the wreck comes to you and everywhere and you can't escape lol lmao
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Sep 28, 2021 03:03
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ Okay, okay, I read this again. With all sincerity this is the dumbest poo poo I've read in months, possibly all year. This is like reading sixteen year old me's vision of how to smash the system, maaaaaaaaaan.
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Sep 28, 2021 03:03
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Xaris posted:eh. It's one of those things that didn't really ramp up until the 1980s and it's still a tricky thing to study. certainly they were pushing messaging saying "its inert! no reason to worry, the Perfect Material! buy buy buy" since it's inception to sell it as the Ultimate Science Material, and probably discouraged looking into it. But it's still murky, unlike say gas, coal, radioactive fracking brine, etc, were those things were and all very very clearly bad from the very beginning just from simple stoichiometry and material composition that even the most dipshit Chem101 flunk-out could probably piece it together. even see articles from like loving 1920 i mean it's still crack ping material that we were told yeah this poo poo lasts forever and never breaks down, or maybe it does over a thousand years, but we were still okay with just dumping it everywhere envision the old trope of a tumble weed rolling through a desert, only instead it's an empty plastic bag
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Sep 28, 2021 03:08
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Rime posted:. This is like reading sixteen year old me's vision of how to smash the system, maaaaaaaaaan. You say that like it's a bad thing
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Sep 28, 2021 03:16
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ oh so this is where the occupy wall street true believers ended up also, that is written to be self-selecting for the most tedious people imaginable
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Sep 28, 2021 03:24
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ who the gently caress designed that website god drat
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Sep 28, 2021 03:31
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ughhhh posted:https://inhabit.global/ i'm pretty sure this is an op designed by letter agency interns that accidentally got pushed live instead of shelved for being too obvious like this is on the same level as the red paint thing that extinction rebellion did  the mailing list option might as well just be a "please monitor everything I do" button
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Sep 28, 2021 03:38
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fits my needs posted:who the gently caress designed that website god drat honestly i get the vague feeling that it might have been a markov chain
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Sep 28, 2021 03:55
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im surprised it hasnt shown up in this thread before. also lol lmao
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Sep 28, 2021 04:05
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ughhhh posted:im surprised it hasnt shown up in this thread before. im surprised you thought it was a good idea to post y did u post it
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Sep 28, 2021 04:06
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I did not realize that the New Yorker had people further along in the crack ping process than D&D back in 2019 https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending??? What If We Stopped Pretending? The climate apocalypse is coming. To prepare for it, we need to admit that we can’t prevent it. quote:And then there’s the matter of hope. If your hope for the future depends on a wildly optimistic scenario, what will you do ten years from now, when the scenario becomes unworkable even in theory? Give up on the planet entirely? To borrow from the advice of financial planners, I might suggest a more balanced portfolio of hopes, some of them longer-term, most of them shorter. It’s fine to struggle against the constraints of human nature, hoping to mitigate the worst of what’s to come, but it’s just as important to fight smaller, more local battles that you have some realistic hope of winning. Keep doing the right thing for the planet, yes, but also keep trying to save what you love specifically—a community, an institution, a wild place, a species that’s in trouble—and take heart in your small successes. Any good thing you do now is arguably a hedge against the hotter future, but the really meaningful thing is that it’s good today. As long as you have something to love, you have something to hope for. a hearty - lmao
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