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Weakest episode of the season by far for me. Some great visuals in there but otherwise it was pretty boring.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Weakest episode of the season by far for me. Some great visuals in there but otherwise it was pretty boring. I agree, but I'm also giving it a little slack since it's obviously setting up the next episode.
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Sep 29, 2021 14:57
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Proteus Jones posted:I agree, but I'm also giving it a little slack since it's obviously setting up the next episode. Yeah I like what it's setting up.
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Sep 29, 2021 14:59
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Not that it's too surprising, but I guess this means there's a high likelihood that this Zola copy is still alive in the sacred timeline as well, since it seems like his Russian copy predated any of the branching changes.
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Sep 29, 2021 15:33
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If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way?
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Sep 29, 2021 15:38
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Lamont posted:If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way? Maybe he realized that doing so would would end up destroying him. Didn't using the stones fry the gauntlet? I assume all that power would have fried Ultron to a crisp. Although he could just upload his programming elsewhere, so... *shrug*.
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Sep 29, 2021 15:52
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Teek posted:Not that it's too surprising, but I guess this means there's a high likelihood that this Zola copy is still alive in the sacred timeline as well, since it seems like his Russian copy predated any of the branching changes. Unless I'm mistaken, that was the bunker from the end of Captain America: Civil War, so I feel like it's been thoroughly investigated in the main timeline and Zola was probably either wiped or put in storage in Avengers tower.
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Sep 29, 2021 16:07
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Lamont posted:If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way? Because this episode was kinda dumb but also because it wouldn't be very interesting
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Sep 29, 2021 16:23
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Keep in mind Ultron is also very naive and young. It doesn't occur to him that there could be a multiverse or even other planets and life outside of Earth. He doesn't have the creativity needed. He is not a smart man, but has access to the internet. He is a cranky toddler with infinite access to data and no spam filter.
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Sep 29, 2021 16:36
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swickles posted:Keep in mind Ultron is also very naive and young. It doesn't occur to him that there could be a multiverse or even other planets and life outside of Earth. He doesn't have the creativity needed. He is not a smart man, but has access to the internet. He is a cranky toddler with infinite access to data and no spam filter. Ultron is literally created because Tony Stark realises that Earth is at risk from alien attack.
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Sep 29, 2021 16:49
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It's great to see Clint finally having a chance to shine. His action scenes where awesome and there were so many silly trick arrows. They even brought in the USB-arrow! But yeah, Vision really didn't pull his weight.
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Sep 29, 2021 17:23
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Phylodox posted:Unless I'm mistaken, that was the bunker from the end of Captain America: Civil War, so I feel like it's been thoroughly investigated in the main timeline and Zola was probably either wiped or put in storage in Avengers tower. Nah, that one was New Jersey, not Siberia. A common mistake. Edit: Wait, the they were at the Kremlin and my Jersey dig fails utterly. I am undone. Nameless Pete fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 29, 2021 |
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Sep 29, 2021 17:27
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I thought the episode was great, I'm surprised so many people were down on it. The replacement VO for Ultron did fine, and Lake Bell was a lot better in this as Widow than the Fury's Big Week episode imo. And we got Zola back! I'm curious who Thanos sacrificed to get the Soul Stone (or how he found Vormir) though since Gamora was fighting with the GotG on Sovereign when Infinity Ultron went on his crusade.
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Sep 29, 2021 17:36
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I really liked this episode. I mean, I just saw a robot bite a galaxy in half! I also like that a couple of episodes now have used the classic Kirby dots to indicate that some really powerful reality-bending lasers are being fired.
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Sep 29, 2021 17:46
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Alchenar posted:Ultron is literally created because Tony Stark realises that Earth is at risk from alien attack. He literally doesn't realize there are other worlds until Thanos shows up. He says it.
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Sep 29, 2021 17:48
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swickles posted:He literally doesn't realize there are other worlds until Thanos shows up. He says it. Where does he think the gem in his head came from?
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Sep 29, 2021 17:53
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swickles posted:He literally doesn't realize there are other worlds until Thanos shows up. He says it. Oh you are right in which case my answer changes to 'lazy writing'.
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Sep 29, 2021 17:56
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Tony Stark and Bruce Banner know there are aliens and other planets and that there's a place called Asgard, but that's kind of all they know. For all they know Loki's a martian. So even if Ultron has a basic awareness that there are other planets with life that's completely different from actually knowing what's out there.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:07
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Kirby Krackle in motion was fantastic.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:21
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I know worldbuilding plot logic whatever is of paramount importance to comic book nerds, but this series is also literally called "What If"
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Sep 29, 2021 18:26
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Yeah, I'm honestly pleasantly surprised with how loose they've played with the details. I remember there were some of us who were wondering if they were gonna dare to kill any big heroes on screen at all and I'm happy to see them manhandle canon in such a way and slice Thanos in half on a whim for a quick plot device. I think the fun of it all is only enhanced by the conscious decision to wink at us every episode as they do some hilarious poo poo.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:35
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Alchenar posted:Oh you are right in which case my answer changes to 'lazy writing'. I'm going to be charitable and assume that until Thanos showed up Ulton didn't have a reasonable way to get to other inhabited planets other than slow-boating it so the thought of wiping out life elsewhere didn't occur to him.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:40
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These are the hand-picked examples out of an infinite multiverse, so we may safely assume some wild-rear end implausible coincidences happening off screen. The Soul Stone was delivered directly to Thanos due to a mixup at the post office. Trillion-to-one chance, but it happened somewhere.
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Sep 29, 2021 19:08
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I did like they finally learned not to throw every single voice actors name in the opening credits. Seeing one after they showed up was a good way to conceal that they were in the episode.
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Sep 29, 2021 19:27
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seaborgium posted:I did like they finally learned not to throw every single voice actors name in the opening credits. Seeing one after they showed up was a good way to conceal that they were in the episode. Didn't they already do the name-hiding with Kurt Russel in the T'challa Star-Lord & Michael Douglas for Fury's Big Week episodes?
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Sep 29, 2021 19:37
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Yvonmukluk posted:Didn't they already do the name-hiding with Kurt Russel in the T'challa Star-Lord & Michael Douglas for Fury's Big Week episodes? Kurt Russel was in the opening, I was waiting the whole episode to see him. I think Michael Douglas was as well.
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Sep 29, 2021 19:40
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I can't wait til Chris Evans' name pops up (to play the What IF/ version of the Human Torch).
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Sep 29, 2021 19:43
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Speaking of Evans was that old dialogue or an impressionist for President Steve's one line?
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Sep 29, 2021 19:44
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Mameluke posted:Speaking of Evans was that old dialogue or an impressionist for President Steve's one line? Impression. Never heard him say his middle name before
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Sep 29, 2021 19:50
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seaborgium posted:Kurt Russel was in the opening, I was waiting the whole episode to see him. I think Michael Douglas was as well. The latter was not.
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Sep 29, 2021 22:03
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Okay this one's actually kinda bugging me: Episode 7 ends with Ultron already on his Multiverse extermination campaign and Uatu being all "Huh..." But Ultron doesn't start the campaign until the very end of episode 8 and he had to displace Uatu to do it. So does episode 7 take place during this one? Like, he watched long enough for Ultron to become aware of him and then said "This universe sucks, I'm changing the channel to Party Thor" and took his eye off the ball?
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Sep 29, 2021 22:40
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Nameless Pete posted:Okay this one's actually kinda bugging me: Episode 7 ends with Ultron already on his Multiverse extermination campaign and Uatu being all "Huh..." But Ultron doesn't start the campaign until the very end of episode 8 and he had to displace Uatu to do it. So does episode 7 take place during this one? Like, he watched long enough for Ultron to become aware of him and then said "This universe sucks, I'm changing the channel to Party Thor" and took his eye off the ball? I think it's implied that he's some kind of cosmic whatever who is watching everything all at the same time. He even says so in the Ultron episode, that he's seen everything has has and will happen.
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Sep 29, 2021 22:52
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Nameless Pete posted:Okay this one's actually kinda bugging me: Episode 7 ends with Ultron already on his Multiverse extermination campaign and Uatu being all "Huh..." But Ultron doesn't start the campaign until the very end of episode 8 and he had to displace Uatu to do it. So does episode 7 take place during this one? Like, he watched long enough for Ultron to become aware of him and then said "This universe sucks, I'm changing the channel to Party Thor" and took his eye off the ball? I think it’s that he was surprised by Ultron’s appearance in the last episode and this one is us back tracking and switching Universes to tell the story of how he got the stones
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Sep 29, 2021 22:55
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Nameless Pete posted:Okay this one's actually kinda bugging me: Episode 7 ends with Ultron already on his Multiverse extermination campaign and Uatu being all "Huh..." But Ultron doesn't start the campaign until the very end of episode 8 and he had to displace Uatu to do it. So does episode 7 take place during this one? Like, he watched long enough for Ultron to become aware of him and then said "This universe sucks, I'm changing the channel to Party Thor" and took his eye off the ball? Considering that they pushed the Gamora-as-Thanos episode to season two, I get the impression that the end of Party Thor was something they slapped together.
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Sep 29, 2021 23:05
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The Gillman posted:I think it’s that he was surprised by Ultron’s appearance in the last episode and this one is us back tracking and switching Universes to tell the story of how he got the stones This is my read as well.
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Sep 29, 2021 23:41
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live with fruit posted:Considering that they pushed the Gamora-as-Thanos episode to season two Did they? That seems strange since She's in a trailer shot along with Star Lord T'Challa, Killmonger(?) Black Panther, Captain Carter, and Party Thor, but it wouldn't be the first time Marvel did that sort of fakeout.
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Sep 30, 2021 00:14
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Lamont posted:If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way? Honestly, maybe he didn't think of it? Like imagine you got a magic alien rock that obviously could power a city forever, you'd be like sure. and then sometime later someone tells you it also lets you talk to cats. It'd be out of nowhere. For all we know Thanos did a bunch of research to realize the full power of the gems, while Ultron just used it like a power source. Alternatively he just can't snap his fingers. he just can't like some people can't whistle.
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Sep 30, 2021 00:53
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Lamont posted:If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way? Ultron doesn't imagine himself as a dispassionate restorer of balance. He hates living things and enjoys watching them die. He's incapable of something as remote as a simple snap.
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Sep 30, 2021 00:56
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Lamont posted:If Ultron has all the Infinity Stones, why doesn't he just wipe out all life instantly like Thanos did, instead of flying to Asgard etc and doing it manually with a million robots? Maybe more fun that way? Subconsciously realised that would leave him without a purpose and so put it off for as long as possible.
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yeah seems like unlike thanos, ultron realizes that you can do way more genocide if you don't use 'em up and just continue using their passive abilities indefinitely
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