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Wait. There were plans to publish a Kiss Kiss Bang Bang comic? I assume based on the Shane Black movie? Like an adaptation of the movie?
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Happy Hippo posted:Wait. There were plans to publish a Kiss Kiss Bang Bang comic? I assume based on the Shane Black movie? Like an adaptation of the movie?
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Oct 5, 2021 12:16
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Edge & Christian posted:The original CrossGen series predated the Shane Black movie by about a year, and the phrase predates both by like fifty years. Thanks for that. I knew that the movie's title was taken from (I believe) a French James Bond poster but I never thought the phrase was ubiquitous enough to have been used elsewhere.
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Oct 5, 2021 12:30
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Happy Hippo posted:Thanks for that. I knew that the movie's title was taken from (I believe) a French James Bond poster but I never thought the phrase was ubiquitous enough to have been used elsewhere Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was the theme song to Thunderball.
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Oct 5, 2021 13:15
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Endless Mike posted:I think you're thinking of Dreamwave? I believe Crossgen was a different type of gross mismanagement. Pretty sure there are people out there who are still owed money by Pat Lee regarding Dreamwave. I think Simon Furman for one.
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Oct 5, 2021 14:26
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Alhazred posted:Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was the theme song to Thunderball. Yes, but it wasn't the origin of the phrase. That was coined by an Italian critic a couple of years earlier as a description of the "action spy" movie genre that sprang up around the Bond films. So the song is actually self-referential.
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Oct 5, 2021 15:07
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Well that's disappointing. https://twitter.com/BillWillingham/status/1429464308623286282?s=20
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Oct 10, 2021 01:34
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E the Shaggy posted:Well that's disappointing. I am shocked, shocked, the dude who wrote Fables is a right-wing shithead. I could not have guessed that from the literal actual content of his work.
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Oct 10, 2021 01:36
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He fulfills his orders?
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Oct 10, 2021 01:56
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bobkatt013 posted:He fulfills his orders? His one book every three years only arrives nine months late! He sends Frog Coins and plastic boxes that he charges $65 for out quick!
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Oct 10, 2021 02:10
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bobkatt013 posted:He fulfills his orders? Some are claiming they have 'five books and a graphic novel' but that can't be from EVS. Of course it's CG so I assume they're just lying.
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Oct 10, 2021 02:47
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Dawgstar posted:Some are claiming they have 'five books and a graphic novel' but that can't be from EVS. Of course it's CG so I assume they're just lying. They’re counting reprints of Robotoad from the 90s.
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Oct 10, 2021 02:50
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funny to think if a modern Marvel/DC title only put out 5 books after 3+ years these same chuds would be absolutely losing their poo poo.
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Oct 10, 2021 03:02
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E the Shaggy posted:Well that's disappointing. I thought he's been that way for years?
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Oct 10, 2021 03:09
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fritz posted:I thought he's been that way for years? Yeah, Willingham had a regular column on Breitbart at one point, and I think it might even have been during Fables's original run. The dude's been vocally right-wing almost since he hit the scene. The only disappointment is that he finds value in EVS's presentation skills. It's like, I knew he was a shithead but I did not know he was also an idiot?
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Oct 10, 2021 03:16
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Wasn't Willingham the guy DC explicitly hired because he was conservative to co-write that lovely election season comic in....2012 or 2016? Or was that some other wingnut? But yeah Willingham being right-wing isn't remotely news, and it's no shock he'd happily work for CGers.
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Oct 10, 2021 03:23
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I feel like we don't talk enough about Willingham's Ironwood, which is ostensibly porn, but is one of the least erotic comics of all time. If people can get entire podcast episodes out of Chuck Austen's Worldwatch, Ironwood is at least one rung down on that failure ladder.
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Oct 10, 2021 03:37
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Wanderer posted:I feel like we don't talk enough about Willingham's Ironwood, which is ostensibly porn, but is one of the least erotic comics of all time. I think we talk exactly enough about it, as in not at all.
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Oct 10, 2021 14:33
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The only thing shocking about Willingham being CG is that he hasnt been CG since the inception. gently caress that guy.
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Oct 10, 2021 14:41
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Wanderer posted:Yeah, Willingham had a regular column on Breitbart at one point, and I think it might even have been during Fables's original run. The dude's been vocally right-wing almost since he hit the scene. He also came out as 100% behind Israeli genocide in the Levant, did he not?
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Jedit posted:He also came out as 100% behind Israeli genocide in the Levant, did he not? Both in real life and within the text of Fable yes. There’s some monologue by, I wanna say the Big Bad Wolf, about how good and strong Israel is and how their actions are right and justified.
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Oct 10, 2021 17:18
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Internet Wizard posted:Both in real life and within the text of Fable yes. There’s some monologue by, I wanna say the Big Bad Wolf, about how good and strong Israel is and how their actions are right and justified. Yeah, specially mentions Israel by name to the evil overlord and promises to do exactly the same against him, making the enemy pay grievously for any attack, complains that the pissers and moaners whine about it, but plucky Israel has a ton of iron and grit. This is a quote from 2007 from the Fables writer quote:The Israel analogy, probably at the time I was writing that, I thought it would be controversial, because just the mention of Israel in any context is a hot-button issue. But once again, I thought even the people upset that that analogy was used understood the analogy. Bigby made his point of the little guy with vast forces arrayed against him. Some wackos online who don’t sign their name to what they write have said that I’m a mouthpiece for Israeli propaganda, and things like that. A paid mouthpiece, which would be wonderful. I haven’t gotten any pay yet, but if any of my Israeli commanders are listening, the checks arriving would be a nice thing. So, yeah, the controversy on that didn’t surprise me, the Israel thing. A little more heated than I expected, but then most things are. you'd think a character who served in two world wars would have strong opinions about war crimes against civilians, but here we are.
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Endless Mike posted:Wasn't Willingham the guy DC explicitly hired because he was conservative to co-write that lovely election season comic in....2012 or 2016? Or was that some other wingnut? But yeah Willingham being right-wing isn't remotely news, and it's no shock he'd happily work for CGers. Yeah, it was Willingham on the conservative side and Judd Winick on the liberal. (Neither was very good.)
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Oct 10, 2021 20:42
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Someone else mentioned it elsewhere, but the Israel analogy is flawed in that it can just as easily be used for Palestinians resisting settlement in the West Bank.
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Oct 10, 2021 22:07
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Let’s not forget he has a character who gains power by murdering babies fund abortion clinics so she can remain powerful
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bobkatt013 posted:Let’s not forget he has a character who gains power by murdering babies fund abortion clinics so she can remain powerful Ahahahaha.
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bobkatt013 posted:Let’s not forget he has a character who gains power by murdering babies fund abortion clinics so she can remain powerful I always thought that was more "super hosed up Grimm fairy tale translated to modern life" like how Prince Charming comes off as a borderline rapist.
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Yeah that doesn’t seem like anything. It’s a logical place to take a grimdark version of your fairy tale character.
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pentyne posted:I always thought that was more "super hosed up Grimm fairy tale translated to modern life" like how Prince Charming comes off as a borderline rapist. There is another part where they state fables don’t do abortions, as they view it as evil. It also goes with the idea that abortions are children, which fits in with his right wing view.
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Wanderer posted:I feel like we don't talk enough about Willingham's Ironwood Every day a brand new English language sentence on this website
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gently caress, I was clueless about Willingham's chudiness. Guess I should probably work on replacing this ancient avatar.
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Steven DeKnight just learned about Akira Yoshida and is very not pleased. https://twitter.com/stevendeknight/status/1446868097214795778 https://gizmodo.com/steven-s-deknight-exits-marvel-citing-c-b-cebulskis-a-1847840466
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the akira yoshida stuff sucks rear end but let's be real here cebulski did not "climb to the top" by pretending to be a mediocre-to-bad japanese comic book writer twenty years ago whether or not what he actually climbed to the top with (being a talent scout) is EiC worthy (eehhhhhh) or if the yoshida thing means he shouldn't be EiC (yes) is another topic (but the answers are really obvious) Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Oct 12, 2021 04:01
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Yeah, the name got him work writing comics but the relationships he built with his own name is why he got the job. He should probably just step down and let someone else be EIC, but Marvel has already shown they aren't gonna do anything about it. I don't know if it he's done anything to make amends either.
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My understanding is that he received a severe reprimand when it was found out, but the people at Marvel didn’t think it warranted a firing.
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Oasx posted:My understanding is that he received a severe reprimand when it was found out, but the people at Marvel didn’t think it warranted a firing. What kind of reprimand could it possibly have been considering he didn't even admit it until just after he was promoted to EIC?
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, the name got him work writing comics but the relationships he built with his own name is why he got the job. I'm not even sure how much the bolded is true. my understanding is that other editors at Marvel at the time were in on the con and covered for Cebulski - there was at least one who, years after "Akira Yoshida's" final work for Marvel was published, was still insisting that Yoshida was a real person and even to have met "Yoshida" in person either way, it was crazy when all this resurfaced after so many years. "Yoshida" emerged when I was still pretty new to following comics, and it was baffling how he came out of nowhere around 2004, quickly became one of Marvel's more prolific writers, and then disappeared almost as suddenly as he appeared. that was not a mystery I ever expected to be solved so definitively Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Oct 12, 2021 16:39
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well it "got him work writing" in that, if i remember the story correctly, he used the pseudonym to break company policy which was that he was not allowed to write while holding the position he was in at the time, and then "talent scouted" himself to editors
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site posted:well it "got him work writing" in that, if i remember the story correctly, he used the pseudonym to break company policy which was that he was not allowed to write while holding the position he was in at the time, and then "talent scouted" himself to editors Yes, this is exactly why he did it, the idea being is letting editors write would keep writers from getting jobs (since it's certainly easier to hire the person sitting next to you than someone off the streets). Whether he would have ended up EiC without having been a pretty middling writer is certainly a question one could ask, but it's also not particularly interesting or useful to do so.
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Was DeKnight working with Perlmutter because I would think that working with him and all the lovely things he did would really make someone want to quit (I can't remember if Perlmutter had any say with the Netflix stuff or not).
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