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cool world is the story of ageing ralph bakshi in las vegas with unlimited access to drugs. it is mostly about sex workers and being escorted out of expensive clubs by security. it's also a beautiful portrait of las vegas, the city, as it was in 1992. i cannot watch more than four consecutive minutes of it at a time before i start having panic attacks. it's incredible
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Oct 11, 2021 19:34
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the other reason i love it is that 1992 brad pitt was very early in his career and hadn't quite made it yet, so this was his first "big" role and he gives it his all.
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Oct 11, 2021 19:42
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Every time I see a screenshot of Cool World it looks like a 90s adventure game.
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Oct 12, 2021 06:25
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The animation in Rio 2 is sublime, every single character is brimming with facial expressions and the avian movement is so good I think this is Blue Sky's masterpiece
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Oct 12, 2021 07:39
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Also some of the humour is daaaark. A bunch of capybaras and other animals die pretty painfully in a comedy montage sequence lol
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Oct 12, 2021 07:42
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We finally got a Disney+ subscription. First thing we did was a quick watch of Pluto's Xmas tree. I saw it listed and I remembered liking that cartoon as a kid. Even if the season isn't here yet I wanted to show my kid. You know what, I absolutely love that art style. I cannot stress this enough. There's something about the art back then that I just can't help but admire even now. Especially the use of colors. Some things they do just call out to me like I want to touch them. Like the Xmas tree itself. It's a kind of matte back ground, but then Mickey hangs the balls in. Those balls are layered awkwardly on top of the tree. Yet, as I look at them I just can't help but admire those balls. They look like gumballs. Deep pleasant colors that absolutely pop on the screen. Then the short moment where Chip and Dale walk through the decorated tree. Again, it doesn't blend all. But it somehow just looks so good to me still. There's more like the odd fluffyness of Dale with a santa candle hat. Maybe it's nostalgia talking.  Afterwards we checked out the first episode of the new (rip) Ducktales series. My son never watched it, but he's into Donald etc now. So it seems like a good a time as any. For hilarity sake we followed that by watching Ep1 of the old Ducktales. It's really funny how close the two hew to each other without being even close to the same thing. I know the new version is highly regarded and I get why. It's fast, it's snappy and the animation is nice. More surprisingly to me at least, was that the old version was still very enjoyable as well. Oddly, I found the old series to actually be a much more tense watch. Maybe because the first episode is more grounded? (theft/break in/chase an abandoned building vs magical mayhem) Or maybe the more muted colour palette. I doubt it's the soundtrack, both have swinging soundtracks. Even more surprisingly, my son actually preferred the old cartoon. Usually when I show him something I used to enjoy he likes it well enough, but generally prefers newer versions. Not so for Ducktales. After some prodding, he just found the old Scrooge McDuck to be much more entertaining. Thanks to stuff like claiming all the cheese samples and then lugging them around the rest of the episode. He also found the nephews themselves much cooler/funnier then the newer version. But hey, it's only the first episode.  I look forward to going through the rest.
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Oct 12, 2021 13:18
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DuckTales was kind of a revelation when it was new. A kids' cartoon that they put actual effort into. Good writing! Good jokes! What is even going on  And they kept it rolling for like 3-4 more shows in the same pattern before either they went off the rails or I outgrew them, still not sure
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Oct 12, 2021 13:22
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OG DuckTales was pretty much the prototype for what would come to be called the Disney Afternoon of the 90s cartoon renaissance when they started giving them actual budgets and effort. The results still have some ups and downs from a modern viewpoint (the racism, whew) but were a huge leap nonetheless. That said, they do get kinda samey eventually. Not surprised that a kid might find the OG easier to get into, the reboot is definitely made with an older audience in mind.
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Oct 12, 2021 13:46
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Gummi Bears was around for like a year or two prior to DT, and I remember it being of a similarly high caliber compared to what had been around before that (mostly shoestring-budget Hanna-Barbera and Filmation stuff). GB was rolled into the Disney Afternoon lineup for a while and didn't feel very out of place (but conceptually it seemed a little itchi-kitchi-koo for the DA target audience, I guess, so it's seldom really thought of as part of the same movement though it should probably be credited as the first real entry). From what I understand one of the thru-lines of that whole period was Jymn Magon. Data Graham fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Oct 12, 2021 13:54
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I think that whole style peaked with Gargoyles. IIRC what followed was more comedy stuff like Bonkers, Marsupalami, and Shnookums and Meat. There was also the Mighty Ducks series, which also tried that whole storytelling model. No one was really buying that though.
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Oct 12, 2021 14:03
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Lol yeah, Shnookums & Meat. Oh no Ren & Stimpy is going to eat our lunch  Disney has a real tendency to be super thin-skinned about potential challengers to their supremacy. Which I guess is smarter from a business standpoint than just dismissing them out of hand, but turning on a dime every time there's a new trend makes them look like they have no central principles or coherent house "voice", which is allegedly an important thing in the creative industry.
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Oct 12, 2021 14:12
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Data Graham posted:Gummi Bears was around for like a year or two prior to DT, and I remember it being of a similarly high caliber compared to what had been around before that (mostly shoestring-budget Hanna-Barbera and Filmation stuff). GB was rolled into the Disney Afternoon lineup for a while and didn't feel very out of place (but conceptually it seemed a little itchi-kitchi-koo for the DA target audience, I guess, so it's seldom really thought of as part of the same movement though it should probably be credited as the first real entry). Oh dang. Gummibears. That was Disney as well right? I always assumed it was. Like you said, it just felt Disney. Especially with that style. I remember watching and liking that as well. Even if the whole bouncing thing was a little...kiddie. It had some solid storylines....I think at least. I literally remember nothing except that they drank a red potion? Which would often run out? Oh crepes, just checked it out. It's on Disney+ as well. So it is definitively Disney now at least. Guess I should check some of those out as well at some point. Nothing like Nostalgia to make you feel old. Ghost Leviathan posted:OG DuckTales was pretty much the prototype for what would come to be called the Disney Afternoon of the 90s cartoon renaissance when they started giving them actual budgets and effort. The results still have some ups and downs from a modern viewpoint (the racism, whew) but were a huge leap nonetheless. That said, they do get kinda samey eventually. It's really a series I want to go through now with older eyes. I don't remember racism at all, but I wouldn't be surprised to find some. Actually, I don't remember any dark feathered or skinned characters at all. My mind still has a bunch of scenes back from when I was younger. Like the giant scales for some contest. Some old Arabesque guy with lightbulb fruits (?), Webby being threatened by wolves in Scotland (?), Gizmoduck and Bubba. I think the Money bin was stolen at some point?
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Oct 12, 2021 14:26
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There's just generally a lot of "lol funny foreign people with funny cultures and funny accents" stuff in DuckTales and TaleSpin, as you might expect from shows modeled on the old 30s adventure-serial type stuff.
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Oct 12, 2021 14:32
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FilthyImp posted:I think that whole style peaked with Gargoyles. IIRC what followed was more comedy stuff like Bonkers, Marsupalami, and Shnookums and Meat. I bought right the gently caress into the Mighty Ducks cartoon, thank you very much.
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Oct 12, 2021 15:23
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and The often forgotten Wuzzles that predated Gummi Bears that proved cartoons with budgets work, even if they cut it short due to Moosel's voice actor dying and not wanting to recast.
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Oct 12, 2021 16:57
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I bought right the gently caress into the Mighty Ducks cartoon, thank you very much. I mean the TMNT inspiration is probably there but it sure wasn't what they had in mind.
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Oct 12, 2021 17:30
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Mighty Ducks did give us a rare occurrence of Tim Curry and Tony Jay both having a reoccurring role in the same show so that's something at least. Additionally, if I remember right Gummi Bears actually had something that could be considered a series finale (which was also pretty rare back then) Larryb fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Oct 12, 2021 |
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Oct 12, 2021 20:17
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I remember seeing bits of Mighty Ducks here and there as a kid and wanting to know more about that world of buff athletic birds but could never wake up on Saturdays early enough to watch it
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Oct 12, 2021 22:05
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The Mighty Ducks was absolutely bonkers and plays the entire premise seriously which I think actually worked for it given a lot of other anthropomorphic hero team shows were much more tongue-in-cheek about it (like Road Rovers)
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Oct 13, 2021 00:03
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Larryb posted:Mighty Ducks did give us a rare occurrence of Tim Curry and Tony Jay both having a reoccurring role in the same show so that's something at least. Gummi Bears had like, loving lore and poo poo. I'm curious as to what a modern remake of the series would be like.
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Oct 13, 2021 00:13
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Hedrigall posted:I remember seeing bits of Mighty Ducks here and there as a kid and wanting to know more about that world of buff athletic birds but could never wake up on Saturdays early enough to watch it
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Oct 13, 2021 00:20
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it's so surreal to me finding out about all these cartoons i never heard of. i didn't get to watch cartoons after about 1996, so in my mind there were like... five animated shows, in the whole world. finding out there were actually a million animated shows in the 90s and some of them were objectively good kind of blew my mind. i can't imagine how different my life would have been if i'd had access to some of that reservoir of artistic inspiration as a kid.
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Oct 13, 2021 00:22
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although, imprinting on ralph bakshi like a baby bird at a more formative stage of my life may not have been an entirely good thing
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Oct 13, 2021 00:42
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It almost goes without saying (all those Disney afternoon shows nailed this to varying degrees) but good lord did the Mighty Ducks have a great opening I wonder if the Anaheim team ever used it as hype music at games, lol
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Oct 13, 2021 01:04
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Boxman posted:It almost goes without saying (all those Disney afternoon shows nailed this to varying degrees) but good lord did the Mighty Ducks have a great opening The ducks and dinosaurs or whatever all look nice enough, but those human designs are rough.
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Oct 13, 2021 01:16
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Boxman posted:It almost goes without saying (all those Disney afternoon shows nailed this to varying degrees) but good lord did the Mighty Ducks have a great opening I've seen one hockey team instead of doing the kiss cam on the jumbo tron they scan the crowd and scanned people to match them to cartoons, and a redhead with a short hair cut got paired with Mallory from The Mighty Ducks.
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Oct 13, 2021 01:28
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Robindaybird posted:The Mighty Ducks was absolutely bonkers and plays the entire premise seriously which I think actually worked for it given a lot of other anthropomorphic hero team shows were much more tongue-in-cheek about it (like Road Rovers) everyone has forgotten Mummies Alive (Mummies Alive was not a good show)
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Oct 13, 2021 01:36
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mahershalalhashbaz posted:it's so surreal to me finding out about all these cartoons i never heard of. i didn't get to watch cartoons after about 1996, so in my mind there were like... five animated shows, in the whole world. finding out there were actually a million animated shows in the 90s and some of them were objectively good kind of blew my mind. i can't imagine how different my life would have been if i'd had access to some of that reservoir of artistic inspiration as a kid. I wish Australia had more cartoons when I was a kid. Insanely jealous of people who have stuff like SWAT Kats woven into the fabric of their life
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Oct 13, 2021 01:59
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The Saddest Rhino posted:everyone has forgotten Mummies Alive Not to be confused with Skeleton Warriors.
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Oct 13, 2021 02:08
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Merge Mummies Alive and Skeleton Warriors into the single most 90s show ever
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Oct 13, 2021 02:09
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Vandar posted:Gummi Bears had like, loving lore and poo poo.
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Oct 13, 2021 02:33
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I would watch the fuuuuuuck out of a Ducktales 2017-ified Gummi Bears
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Oct 13, 2021 02:41
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The United States posted:Merge Mummies Alive and Skeleton Warriors into the single most 90s show ever I would loving hate to be an animator on this, lol.
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Oct 13, 2021 03:07
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Phylodox posted:Not to be confused with Skeleton Warriors.
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Oct 13, 2021 04:38
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World Famous W posted:I never once saw an episode of skeleton warriors and yet still somehow wound up with a couple of the action figures as a kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8d2r7g-IZY
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Oct 13, 2021 05:01
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Apparently the IRL team still owns the copyright to the Mighty Ducks main character as their mascot.Hawkperson posted:I would watch the fuuuuuuck out of a Ducktales 2017-ified Gummi Bears Ducktales 2017 actually did have an episode that outright referenced it in all but name, complete with the Gummi Juice being a major plot point.
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Oct 13, 2021 05:17
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The Saddest Rhino posted:everyone has forgotten Mummies Alive I remember it. The theme song was insanely good and I enjoyed the series well enough. Back then it felt like a series that desperately wanted o be Gargoyles. Boxman posted:It almost goes without saying (all those Disney afternoon shows nailed this to varying degrees) but good lord did the Mighty Ducks have a great opening I don't think I've ever seen anything of the mighty ducks. This opening doesn't ring any bells at all. But holy 90s! Does this look metal as gently caress.
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Oct 13, 2021 08:03
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Every single show has a massive fan somewhere. Nostalgia is a helluva drug. All the TMNT knockoffs are a real weird thing in retrospect because they all kinda have their own spin on it. And most were made to sell toys. Mighty Ducks played up the fancy tech and added sports gimmicks, Street Sharks and Extreme Dinosaurs played up the 90s attitude and grotesque 'cool' designs. (the Street Sharks toys were very chewable) I'm still not sure if Samurai Pizza Cats counts, but it probably should; TMNT was apparently popular in Japan enough to get its own season or two there, from what I've heard. (and they got sentai powerups and the ability to combine into a giant turtle, supposedly?)
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IIRC TMNT The Anime was the show that replaced Neon Genesis Evangelion in the lineup.
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