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Barudak posted:I had a friend in highschool whose parents wouldn't let me hang out with him because I wasn't a "good christian" and because I didn't have nice clothes they thought I was a drug dealer. Their son sold drugs when we weren't hanging out and had to beg me for cash for an abortion once. Ione of my friends in MS/HS was sent to catholic school because their parents hated the crowd he was friends with…aka teen punks, goths and all around weirdos. He never did hard drugs with us but I know later on something happened, and now he’s in recovery…and a fellow anarchist. I’m still in contact with him, and he’s doing well! He seems happy! Ironically enough he attended the same Catholic school my mom went to, and she’s been an Episcopalian since before I was born. Hell everyone I know who went there isn’t Catholic now. I hope he’s around when I see my mom in December, I’ve always kinda wondered what the story really was with his parents. I knew his mom was the more weird one and the dad was actually pretty cool but I guess he went along? I was friends with my friends younger brother as well and he never was sent to catholic school or anything.
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the only people i know irl who went to catholic school are massive lesbians
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Oct 20, 2021 11:33
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Mx. posted:the only people i know irl who went to catholic school are massive lesbians Can confirm, and my gender fell off, too. My parents sent me to Catholic school because I was a "bad kid" who had never even gotten detention, snuck out or done drugs. Anyway I got kicked out of Catholic school inside two weeks because we aren't Catholic so I got in trouble for not knowing what to do at mass twice a loving day, I got in trouble for asking "insolent questions" in class because I had no idea what the hell was going on in religious studies, and then I finally got fed up and told the dean of students I didn't even believe in their god. So I ended up right back in public school. I never did drugs until my mom accused me of doing them enough times that I went and found my dad's weed and smoked it. I also started doing other poo poo around the same time.
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Oct 20, 2021 11:39
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Yeah a lot of “bad” kids I knew had parents that insisted their child was on some Sid & Nancy path and were very much not. But then eventually the kid gave in and figured might as loving well do drugs if my parents are convinced I’m on em! Meanwhile I just did my poo poo in quiet and p much none was the wiser. And I turned out totally fine do not enquire further thank you!!!!!
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Oct 20, 2021 11:49
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My mom is still mad that I'm an "evil pagan" and my mom was a Scientologist for years while I was growing up.
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Oct 20, 2021 11:58
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20th century moral panics have all been pretty great for teaching parents to be terrified and paranoid of exactly the wrong things, while in pretty much every case the call was coming from inside the house. 21st century ones too.
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Oct 20, 2021 12:27
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teen witch posted:Royals: they’re just like us! The thing about the British press is that if you are a 'big story' they will go to everyone you've ever known and offer them money to betray you. The phone hacking thing show'd they were hacking the phones of friends of friends of someone famous, or hacking people on the off chance something story worthy came up. Meghan gets thrown to the wolves by the Royal family to distract from what William is doing, or to deflect from the Queen and Prince Phillip living apart since his retirement from public life so that he could live with his long term mistress.
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Oct 20, 2021 12:38
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Thundercloud posted:or to deflect from the Queen and Prince Phillip living apart since his retirement from public life so that he could live with his long term mistress. Wait, what?
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Oct 20, 2021 12:41
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Thundercloud posted:The thing about the British press is that if you are a 'big story' they will go to everyone you've ever known and offer them money to betray you. The phone hacking thing show'd they were hacking the phones of friends of friends of someone famous, or hacking people on the off chance something story worthy came up. Long before, Princess Diana pretty much had a hit put out on her by the royal family.
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Oct 20, 2021 12:47
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Soylent Pudding posted:Wait, what? Remember that picture of him looking like a corpse being driven home from hospital? Remember how the driver is cropped out everywhere you saw it?
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HopperUK posted:Remember that picture of him looking like a corpse being driven home from hospital? Remember how the driver is cropped out everywhere you saw it? Let me be the first American in this thread to post, "eyyyy lmao"
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Oct 20, 2021 12:53
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He has looked like a corpse for years hospital or not It’s downright unnatural how long they’ve lived. I’m pretty sure that the Queen will never die. In fact I hope so because gently caress Charles. I kind of hope she hangs on just to spite him
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Oct 20, 2021 13:03
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The good news is... There's not any good news because it's still a monarchy.
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Mormon Nailer posted:The good news is... There's not any good news because it's still a monarchy. It used to be that people would say that the British ones were ok because at least they weren't complete trash, but it turns out that they were just better at hiding their hideous crimes.
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Dongsturm posted:It used to be that people would say that the British ones were ok because at least they weren't complete trash, but it turns out that they were just better at hiding their hideous crimes. Turns out Voltaire was right all along.
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Oct 20, 2021 15:10
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Not that it’s particularly on topic but I don’t care about royalty and like, as long as there toothless and pay their own way without taxpayer money, sure. Be the viceroy of East Sucknfuckingham. Have your little rituals. Have a nice rear end fancy dress. Maybe don’t be a tremendous pedo supported by the ruling class. Once my money is the game then I have problems.
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I too was treated like some major criminal despite not doing anything bad (at least nothing they knew about) ever. Sure I knew people that did drugs, but I didn't. How do you expect to pay for them?? I can barely afford lunch! Yeah I like to wear a long coat, it's Illinois in the winter and I have to carry around tons of poo poo because my locker is too far away from every class I have to actually go there between them.Ghost Leviathan posted:20th century moral panics have all been pretty great for teaching parents to be terrified and paranoid of exactly the wrong things, while in pretty much every case the call was coming from inside the house. 21st century ones too. I was thinking about that recently. Has there ever been a moral panic that was like, correct? Justifiable, even?
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Oct 20, 2021 15:30
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Light Gun Man posted:I too was treated like some major criminal despite not doing anything bad (at least nothing they knew about) ever. Sure I knew people that did drugs, but I didn't. How do you expect to pay for them?? I can barely afford lunch! Yeah I like to wear a long coat, it's Illinois in the winter and I have to carry around tons of poo poo because my locker is too far away from every class I have to actually go there between them. When it's correct it's not called a moral panic. We don't call the worry about pedo clergy a moral panic, because holy poo poo there were a fuckton of pedo clergy.
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Oct 20, 2021 15:34
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Panfilo posted:Human trafficking maybe? Interesting, because trafficing is real and does happen, but nobody's looking to traffic Shela and her three pugs from 1337 Who Gives A poo poo Street.
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Oct 20, 2021 20:03
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There’s a great “You’re Wrong About” Trafficking and it’s informative as it is loving sad as hell.
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teen witch posted:There’s a great “You’re Wrong About” Trafficking and it’s informative as it is loving sad as hell. Seconding this, I listened to it about a month ago and it was extremely worth listening to
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Like, at best moral panics can be 'correct' in that they identify that something is An Issue, but they then without fail proceed to get the details exactly wrong because they are not interested in actually tackling issues, they want to reinforce the anxieties and reactionary narratives of sheltered white people that the world is out to get them and everything unfamiliar, new and out of their immediate control must be brutally crushed.
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Oct 21, 2021 13:01
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I mean the latest one is that people in legal states are going to hand out weed candy to kids and it's like gently caress no Karen, I paid 20 bucks for this bag of gummies and I'm enjoying every last loving one. I have better things to do than get your 10 year old high.
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They tried to swedeify that panic for here and I’m like BITCH WHERE ARE THEY?? E: ok actually more of a HELVETE VAR FINNS DET?
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Neito posted:I mean the latest one is that people in legal states are going to hand out weed candy to kids and it's like gently caress no Karen, I paid 20 bucks for this bag of gummies and I'm enjoying every last loving one. I have better things to do than get your 10 year old high. I mean you laugh but this just happened last week!! https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sheriff-teacher-marijuana-edibles-student-prize-box-80611196 The teacher was high when they made the prize box and stuck them in accidentally and tried to get them back as soon as she noticed
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teen witch posted:There’s a great “You’re Wrong About” Trafficking and it’s informative as it is loving sad as hell. listening to it now. seems like most of the things i suspected about this "movement" are true, or even more dumb than i thought. somehow, this is not shocking!
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A good rule of thumb is whenever anyone in power starts crowing about doing things "for the children", hold onto your butts.
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Imagined posted:A good rule of thumb is whenever anyone in power starts crowing about doing things "for the children", hold onto your butts. Problematically, often the people most motivated to want to do things for children want to do things to children
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blatman posted:i've been meaning to ask this question here for awhile and honestly i've written/deleted it so many times that I don't remember if i've even posted it yet but here it goes: it feels like a violation because they were ransacking your room looking for secret things
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vortmax posted:I've never understood this idea. I was in high school in the 90s and during Satanic Panic, but it was always obvious to us as students that the preppy rich kids were the ones doing drugs and loving. school is just a mirror of society. in normal society rich assholes can party and do drugs without consequences, so thats how the school works
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Snoop chat: my brother was dating a girl that the rest of the family absolutely hated (to be fair, we were correct about her) and my mother "found" an explicit note that the gf had written my brother. Mom then told me repeatedly about how disgusting it was, and how she had to immediately run to the bathroom and throw up. It was like she was victimized by this note (and now that I think about it, she probably very much felt that she was).
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I've been NC with my mom for over 2 years now. Yesterday was my brother's birthday so we were texting back and forth about it. He told me about an awkward phone call he got from her where she was telling him how much she missed him and wants a hug, but she fell again and face planted and has two black eyes now and doesn't want to leave her home. It just makes me sad. I can't imagine her living this decade out and she's just going to be sad and alone and probably constantly getting herself hurt.
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Imagined posted:A good rule of thumb is whenever anyone in power starts crowing about doing things "for the children", hold onto your butts. The same rule is that whenever and wherever there is an organization that has the phrase Family" or "Family Values" in the title, then they are generally oppressive pearl clutching fascists.
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Neito posted:I mean the latest one is that people in legal states are going to hand out weed candy to kids and it's like gently caress no Karen, I paid 20 bucks for this bag of gummies and I'm enjoying every last loving one. I have better things to do than get your 10 year old high.
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BrigadierSensible posted:The same rule is that whenever and wherever there is an organization that has the phrase Family" or "Family Values" in the title, then they are generally oppressive pearl clutching fascists. Any time someone says "We're like a family here", what they really mean is "Do what Mommy and Daddy say, or else he gets his belt".
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skooma512 posted:Also getting busted in middle school when they found a notebook with random edgy crap I wrote in the margins that I forgot I even wrote an hour later and used that to establish a "pattern". The only time I ever got to see the counselor was when I was in trouble, and like, I was pretty stupid then, but there was no way I'm telling an employee of the school anything about what's in my head because we've been down that road to get here, and I'd rather not get expelled, no matter what they said about confidentiality. I wrote some edgy emo teenage poetry on fictionpress when I was like, 12, 13? and my dad stalked me online and found it and tried to use it in court to prove that I was depressed and should therefore live with him. I don't think I ever wrote any sort of proper poetry again, nevermind published it online. I also wore a skirt to his wedding (the first time wearing one since I was old enough to object, because I never felt comfortable in dresses and skirts) and he tried to use that in court too as a proof that he was a better parent, and I should go live with him and his new wife and they could make me do girly stuff and learn makeup and ??? Took me until I was 30 to wear a skirt again. A wasp immediately flew up it and stung me on the arse. My mum had stories of coming back from school and finding out that her mum had tidied up her room and thrown out all her toys. 50 years later she was still bitter about it and I suspect it's why she was such a hoarder.
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When I was in junior high I used to write short stories about dinosaurs or serial killers invading the school and killing everyone except me and a couple friends, and by friends I mean people who let me follow them around because I was a depressed and anxious abused and traumatized kid with gender dysphoria and invisible disabilities and probably autism. Probably why I also wrote those stories, I didn't actually ever wish harm on anyone, I was a big people pleaser and avoided harming anyone out of fear, and I could barely handle pg-13 movies because it would upset me too much. But somehow I could write about it. Because this was pre-Columbine, no one cared, and many kids even wanted to read how I would imagine they'd die. It was the only time the popular kids were nice to me. But I didn't hate them. Some stories I'd surprise people by having the most popular kids survive, and they were thrilled about it. I'm sure a lot of them look back and think "holy poo poo, that kid was hosed up." And honestly I do to. It's kind of shocking that I never got in trouble, or no concerns were raised at parent teacher night. Teachers definitely knew I was doing it. I guess I was just too sweet to worry about, and they were right. I've gotten even more pacifist as an adult, I can't even squish bugs. Except mosquitos and ticks, and even that makes me feel bad. Which says a lot considering my years of suffering from insect-borne diseases and parasites.
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I had a livejournal around 2002ish when I was a dorky 15 year old that played a lot of Counterstrike, and all of my posts were about how depressed I was, how cool I thought various guns in counterstrike were and how much I wanted to own them IRL (which was not for any purpose related to using them, I have in fact never owned a firearm and don't want to now that I'm not 15), or exacerbated teenage angst rambling. I stopped writing it because my brother and his friends would apparently go into my room for the express purpose of snooping around and seeing what they could find, much like my mom, except they would also get on my computer and dig through my internet history, so they found my angsty livejournal and followed it for a while before finally revealing in the comments months later that they had been following it and laughing at me all along. Since the internet was the only place I had where I could express anything at all I spent the next several years completely paranoid and started changing my internet identity every few months to made up people, including writing believable backstories with fake names in various locales and it completely destroyed any sense of self identity I had and prevented me from having any consistent long-term friends for over a decade  Combined with other invasive traumatic things, I'm still working on that 20+ years later  But to his credit that's the only lovely thing I remember my brother doing, and I'm shocked nothing more came of it given the era and the contents deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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