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"why is this page black?" in the first year i could connect to the web at my house, 1996, every site i cared to visit outside of yahoo had a black background and the above slogan due to something that Clinton had helped pass. looking it up now, maybe it was the Communications Decency Act? i'm not american but got angry on behalf of the internationalist internet those sites were all probably in an anti censorship web ring. i can't find any now though. what a waste of time for both sides of that argument, considering how hosed the web is now
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that reminds me i once downloaded a "128-bit"version of netscape navigator, because it said that it was only legal for US citizens and i was like ha ha gently caress you cia i guess it meant that it supported 128 bit encryption
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Oct 25, 2021 15:53
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gabensraum posted:that reminds me i once downloaded a "128-bit"version of netscape navigator, because it said that it was only legal for US citizens and i was like ha ha gently caress you cia yeah, the old days where "strong encryption" was something governments thought they could control. remember the clipper chip or when the ps2 was export restricted because the magic gate encryption used on the memory cards was considered "strong"? also something about saddam using the ps2 to launch missiles
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Oct 25, 2021 16:01
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i think it was basically any kind of encryption past DES was classified as a munition because of the legacy and importance of encryption in ww2 commerce won though, once public key and previously considered "strong" encryption was out there in the world trying to impose export controls on it would be trying to stuff the genie in the bottle.
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Oct 25, 2021 17:12
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remember how the power Mac g3 was classed as a weapon
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Oct 25, 2021 17:25
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Silver Alicorn posted:remember how the power Mac g3 was classed as a weapon and the ps2 lol
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Oct 25, 2021 17:29
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remember when the military bought a bunch of ps3s to make clusters
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Oct 25, 2021 17:54
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Silver Alicorn posted:remember when the military bought a bunch of ps3s to make clusters there was a very narrow period just before cuda debuted where the cell was useful for that kind of thing, and per-unit the ps3 was way cheaper than an ibm cell blade
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The_Franz posted:there was a very narrow period just before cuda debuted where the cell was useful for that kind of thing, and per-unit the ps3 was way cheaper than an ibm cell blade
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ultravoices posted:i think it was basically any kind of encryption past DES was classified as a munition because of the legacy and importance of encryption in ww2 IIRC Phil Zimmermann was charged or investigated on the basis that he'd exported munitions without a licence by uploading PGP to Usenet (where it could be downloaded by people outside the US). He ended up publishing the source in a physical book — protected speech under the First Amendment — which made enforcing the software regulation pointless.
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Vinz Clortho posted:IIRC Phil Zimmermann was charged or investigated on the basis that he'd exported munitions without a licence by uploading PGP to Usenet (where it could be downloaded by people outside the US). He ended up publishing the source in a physical book — protected speech under the First Amendment — which made enforcing the software regulation pointless. lol if you tried that today they'd put you in jail for 40 years anyway
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Oct 25, 2021 23:03
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that OpenOffice mouse with all the buttons... was that real or like an April fools day thing or a fever dream
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Oct 26, 2021 04:04
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real or not there's mmo mice that have a grid of mappable buttons that look the same. they're mappable for say adobe products, so a wacky spreadsheet mouse is feasible
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Oct 26, 2021 04:23
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no honest man needs more than four buttons and a wheel
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Oct 26, 2021 07:42
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i’ve still got a standard two button plus wheel mouse and never really needed anything else.
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Oct 26, 2021 12:30
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mx master is extremely good and the back + forward buttons are great. the gesture button freakin sucks though
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Oct 26, 2021 13:05
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adjustable dpi is more important than more buttons imo
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Oct 26, 2021 13:13
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mmo mouse make no sense, you already have a thing with a shitload of buttons, it's called a loving keyboard just bind strafing+jumping on the few extra buttons a normal gaming mouse have and use the keyboard only to cast all your spells and poo poo mmo mouses only make sense if your a clown and insist on doing some character movement with the keyboard and some with the mouse
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Oct 26, 2021 14:06
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Zlodo posted:mmo mouse make no sense, Hear me out on this one, I know it seems crazy, but: it doesn't matter and rubes will buy anything gaming-themed even if it's garbage because they want to believe it will give them an advantage even though five minutes of critical thought would prove otherwise.......... and marketers understand this
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Oct 26, 2021 14:36
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Zlodo posted:mmo mouse make no sense, you already have a thing with a shitload of buttons, it's called a loving keyboard They're great if you want a set of keybinds/macros within thumb's reach and you don't want to move your hands off of your mouse or wasd.
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Oct 26, 2021 14:58
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I have a gamer mouse with six buttons on the side and it helps for Warframe
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Oct 26, 2021 15:05
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I have a cool gamer mouse and I never use any of the extra buttons except forward/back because i just can't think of any button I click that often for it to be useful
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Oct 26, 2021 15:12
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Two Beans posted:They're great if you want a set of keybinds/macros within thumb's reach and you don't want to move your hands off of your mouse or wasd. If you bind strafing and jumping to mouse buttons you don't need to use wasd at all (both MMOs worth playing at all make you move forward if you press lmb+rmb)
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Oct 26, 2021 15:17
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Mr. Nice! posted:i’ve still got a standard two button plus wheel mouse and never really needed anything else. you dont middle click the wheel to open links in new tabs so you can keep reading the forums?
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Oct 26, 2021 15:24
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fack you posted:that OpenOffice mouse with all the buttons... was that real or like an April fools day thing or a fever dream It looks like it was a real mouse, though the final version shipped without the OpenOffice.org branding and was more of a generic gaming mouse. It feels like the OOo connection was just a marketing stunt (though why OpenOffice decided to co-brand a gaming mouse I'm not sure  ).
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Oct 26, 2021 15:31
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My students keep buying the mice that have touch buttons on top instead of real buttons, like the Apple magic mouse or the Microsoft one that folds flat, and it's just so loving terrible for software that uses more than one button
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Oct 26, 2021 16:40
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Two Beans posted:They're great if you want a set of keybinds/macros within thumb's reach and you don't want to move your hands off of your mouse or wasd. they're kinda neat as macros for regular apps, too. or as more comfortable alternates for regular mouse buttons different mouse, but i have a trackball with a bunch of buttons and i rebound a few to left and right click because it's more comfortable for me than using the "intended" buttons. one is middle click so I don't have to "pinch" the mouse to click the wheel. too many buttons goes a long way to avoiding the rsi regular mice we're giving me
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Oct 26, 2021 17:21
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phantom, the gaming company that promised an amazing console and only ever delivered a keyboard/mouse combo like 5 years later
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Oct 26, 2021 17:30
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:phantom, the gaming company that promised an amazing console and only ever delivered a keyboard/mouse combo like 5 years later also, people made counterfeit "prototypes" to rip off console collectors: https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1448771204068773888 https://twitter.com/Foone/status/1448788896376975368
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Oct 26, 2021 18:12
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i would not be surprised if the company taped every possible port on the back to blow more smoke up investor asses as a claim it could market to families as a pc, gamers as a console, and cable providers as an entertainment set-top box hardocp had a supposed unit in 2004 that launched a lawsuit by phantom and they lost a cable modem in and out as ports and a "dsl" port so it looks like these were all bullshit units: https://web.archive.org/web/20041011105400/http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjU3
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like, I'm all for dragging con artists, but the phantom was a bullshit machine 20 years ago and any units captured in the wild were already full of useless ports and questionable hardware. it was fake to begin with, even the article says most of the ports are empty inside and only the bare minimum connect to anything at all
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Oct 26, 2021 18:35
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"the phantom", a documentary by orson welles
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Sagebrush posted:My students keep buying the mice that have touch buttons on top instead of real buttons, like the Apple magic mouse or the Microsoft one that folds flat, and it's just so loving terrible for software that uses more than one button I could have sworn that the Arc had real buttons did they switch the capacity or am I crazy?
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Zlodo posted:mmo mouse make no sense, you already have a thing with a shitload of buttons, it's called a loving keyboard there were some classes in daoc where you absolutely had to switch quickbars even with every single bindable key on a 104 set up
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i use a trackball. it has. a scroll ring and four buttons
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Oct 28, 2021 04:55
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Kitfox88 posted:no honest man needs more than four buttons and a wheel Zlodo posted:mmo mouse make no sense, you already have a thing with a shitload of buttons, it's called a loving keyboard i know a dude who uses one of those logitech mice with twelve buttons on the side. he had a massive stroke like ten years ago that left one of his arms basically unusable (the stroke crippled him so severely that his student debt was forgiven) so that mouse basically lets him play MMOs one-handed. that said, yeah granted the vast majority of people don't need a little mini-keyboard on their mouse. but i'm glad they exist for those that do. 
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ultravoices posted:commerce won though, once public key and previously considered "strong" encryption was out there in the world trying to impose export controls on it would be trying to stuff the genie in the bottle. there’s another side to this too back in the day the NSA had to approve any product containing encryption for export, especially if you wanted to ship something better than DES I know of a product that shipped 1024-bit RSA in 1992 and received virtually immediate approval from the NSA to do so think about the implications of that
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i've always assumed that any incredible new technology that makes you go "wow, imagine what evil poo poo the NSA could do with this" is something that the NSA has actually had for at least a decade or two. like when the first kinect came out they showed how it could identify individual people by their body proportions, and read your heart rate from across the room by watching your face pulse in infrared. that was 2010 so the NSA was probably doing that in the first clinton administration
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iirc cisco still release images that have gimped crypto to comply with export restrictions (the ones without "K9" in the name)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i know a dude who uses one of those logitech mice with twelve buttons on the side. he had a massive stroke like ten years ago that left one of his arms basically unusable (the stroke crippled him so severely that his student debt was forgiven) so that mouse basically lets him play MMOs one-handed. I'm glad he can still find a way to chill and enjoy stuff with friends despite that
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