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Yeah as someone who generally, I think, is enjoying Mercs, I am wishing PvP felt better. It feels like much more of a time investment with much less of a payoff. In theory you'd think it wouldn't be that way, but somehow it is. Something about it seems not "predictable" enough, if that makes sense. Like if you pick the wrong comp to start with, vs. what your opponent picks, you're doomed, except you're supposed to sit there and let the whole thing play out. It's like Rock Paper Scissors except you both have to sit there for 5 minutes after showing your hands. I'm not sure how to fix that, obviously you should be able to pick any comp you want, but it just isn't working.
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NorgLyle posted:I don't even understand the concept behind Mercenaries PvP. It's a mode where the only variance is which of the equal speed abilities randomly fires off first so eventually every team will be one of the optimal comps and every match will come down to coin flips on Earthen Stomp.
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I don't get it either. IMO the fun in PvE is it is sort of a mini puzzle with a bit of RNG and you get to try different things or grind if you get stuck. PvP seems as mentioned earlier like a longer rock paper scissors which is not fun at all.
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Sir Lemming posted:Yeah as someone who generally, I think, is enjoying Mercs, I am wishing PvP felt better. It feels like much more of a time investment with much less of a payoff. In theory you'd think it wouldn't be that way, but somehow it is. It's too shallow, there's no room to counterplay anything. You've got single digit numbers, almost binary ability choices, a 2x mod bonus across 3 entire colors and synergy like "great if you meet condition, bad if not". Maybe you've got 2 good pieces of equipment, but also lol if you haven't shelled out massive amounts of grind time to make any of your experiments even remotely useable. They can't even add anything to it because it's just so shallow to start with. And because it's so shallow, and because the grind is so insane, your best bet is to stick to a meta comp that works.
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Mercenaries is not my bag. I spent like 2000 gold to give it a fair shot and it feels grindy and not strategic, like most gatcha phone games. Most heroes lack synergy and matches lack “new” stuff going on I assumed earlier that I could swap out skills of fewer mercenaries. Make more dungeon run. Dungeon runnnnn
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Lol I went from D6 back to D10, guess I'm not going to make it to D5 this month. i've been having some success as quest hunter instead, and it has decent matchups against oracle taunt druid as well.
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Oct 28, 2021 17:29
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Blizzard was so busy trying to think of unlockables and coins and counting their money, they forgot to make an actual game. Some VP was like “ok, clearly we hosed up hard with Battlegrounds. People just like, play it, because it’s kind of fun. We need a mode that you have no incentive to actually play for fun, it just needs to be window dressing so people buy stuff that makes numbers go up.”
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Oct 28, 2021 17:35
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I finally got to blackrock mercenaries PVE and that's actually fun. Similar to the old puzzles. I am actually having fun doing that.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zld2eXWcOM song is a banger e: patch on Nov 2 https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23739023 https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/1453784926352982021 All commons revealed Firebert fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 19:07
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The birds seem pretty good https://twitter.com/Restodroodopz/status/1453786291196334081?s=20 Also Druid gets a 1 mana 3/1 rush/1/3 taunt
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Step 1. ??? Step 2. Brilliant Macaw, Bolner, macaw Step 3. Hopefully win the game.
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Oct 28, 2021 21:09
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The Parrot is def going to find a home in my Tonk deck. The single Lion is going away no doubt.
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I really want to know what they were thinking about when they made the mage card. There is no card in standard right now that I would put an 8 mana minion in my mage deck to play twice. Mage wins before turn 8! But Time Warp exists in Wild.
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Cardamommy Issues posted:Mercenaries is not my bag. I spent like 2000 gold to give it a fair shot and it feels grindy and not strategic, like most gatcha phone games. Most heroes lack synergy and matches lack “new” stuff going on I assumed earlier that I could swap out skills of fewer mercenaries. When the very first teaser screenshot came out, people thought it was going to be an advanced form of dungeon run. Like, that's actually what people wanted and it could have worked. Instead it's this. After two weeks and I finished each bounty on normal and heroic. I did some task grinding when it was easy and now I'm just doing whatever dailies come in. I pvp, but only against bots because the rewards fighting players isn't worth the time. Even then, I'm only bothering to do one a day because it's so quick. Then there's the issue of new heroes coming out. When new mercs come out, will there be expansion packs? If they're in the base pack, should I be saving the packs I get now so I can easily get the new rare ones when they're launched? Nobody knows. It's such a weak handshake of a game. The idea of them pushing the chess or strategic angle in the advertisements is ridiculous when you have to think much more in an average game of constructed.
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Oct 28, 2021 21:34
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Unfortunately it will still be quest mages everywhere.
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I feel it's almost a lock that whatever internal unannounced game that Peter Whalen and Mike Donais went to work on is gonna be a Slay the Spire clone, given their work on HS and the game that Whalen made before he joined Blizzard.
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Oct 28, 2021 21:41
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I feel like there has to be a payoff for big spell mage somewhere in this mini-set, since the main set had something too and there's just absolutely no big spells that would make sense. Like sure, playing Grand Finale a few times more is good, I guess, but hardly game-breaking.
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I'm probably overhyping some of these revealed commons but they're looking very strong, whilst others look like absolute trash (looking at you Defias Blastfisher). Druid of the Reef, Sunwing Squarker, Defias Leper, Blackwater Cutlass, and Shadowblade Slinger look particularly good. Also I'm dumb and just got the parrots' gimmick, they repeat stuff 
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canqued posted:If anyone wants an easy run to Legend with a deck that is deceptively fun, I humbly submit the most unoriginal deck I've ever bothered to Legend with: here is a fixed up deck link for the lazy https://playhearthstone.com/deckbui...d0DqO8DAA%3D%3D
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Thank gently caress, Miniset news at last.Last King posted:i've been having some success as quest hunter instead, and it has decent matchups against oracle taunt druid as well. I had a good run with Clown Druid and climbed a bit back up. Then got a run of 5 mages and fell right back down again.
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quest hunter vs taunt druid is probably one of the most fun matchups in standard right now. quest hunter vs pirate warrior is alright too. you just barely get there against both
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Firebert posted:I really want to know what they were thinking about when they made the mage card. There is no card in standard right now that I would put an 8 mana minion in my mage deck to play twice. Mage wins before turn 8! If it re-casts Fireworks with the same bonuses for elementals as the last cast, I'd MAYBE give a single copy a try in that deck. Probably not how it works though. I hope there's some random mage shenanigans in the mini-set. I enjoy Yogg Box, Scroll of Wanders, and Reno hero way more than big brain stuff like infinite fireballs.
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The State of The Game for me is: Only play ranked as far to get 5 weekly wins, complete dailies in casual, do 1 win in Tavern Brawl. Use BGs for play tribal quests. Play Mercs when I'm half paying attention to it. For better card game experiences I've started playing Monster Train and MTG Arena. Hearthstone is still my mobile game, but if I want to do more involved PvE or just play fun garbage decks I have other options now. Amoeba102 fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Firebert posted:I really want to know what they were thinking about when they made the mage card. There is no card in standard right now that I would put an 8 mana minion in my mage deck to play twice. Mage wins before turn 8! it helps make cen. ward worse by diluting the eight drop pool!
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After taking a year off of Hearthstone starting a new account in September I made it to legend for the first time ever tonight! I made it with the Deathrattle Demon Hunter, which I've read is doing well for others in this thread too! It's free wins people! jump on the Death Speaker train and book your ticket to legend ranks today! Actually I hear the Fel version of the deck is even performing better, but I used the original vanilla deathrattle version ^^ **by far the best thing about Deathrattle DH is that Quest Mage is actually free wins. Starsfan fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Disargeria posted:It's too shallow, there's no room to counterplay anything. You've got single digit numbers, almost binary ability choices, a 2x mod bonus across 3 entire colors and synergy like "great if you meet condition, bad if not". Maybe you've got 2 good pieces of equipment, but also lol if you haven't shelled out massive amounts of grind time to make any of your experiments even remotely useable.
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Cardamommy Issues posted:Mercenaries is not my bag. I spent like 2000 gold to give it a fair shot and it feels grindy and not strategic, like most gatcha phone games. Most heroes lack synergy and matches lack “new” stuff going on I assumed earlier that I could swap out skills of fewer mercenaries. Mercs is actually way worse than any most popular mobage for that, I'd say. I did have fun with it though so I got my moneys worth of zero dollars.
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Starsfan posted:After taking a year off of Hearthstone starting a new account in September I made it to legend for the first time ever tonight! Congrats!
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Somehow made it back to D5 thanks to Clown Druid and a dearth of mages.
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i really don't want to play five games of constructed in the weekend but it'd be the first monthly card back i've missed out on 
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peer posted:i really don't want to play five games of constructed in the weekend but it'd be the first monthly card back i've missed out on I had the same dilemma until I realized I could faff around in low MMR Wild to get my wins. I threw this together to complete the Noz quest and am slaughtering through Bronze with an 87% winrate: ### nozpriest # Class: Priest # Format: Wild # # 2x (1) Cleric of Scales # 2x (1) Draconic Studies # 2x (2) Dragonmaw Sentinel # 2x (2) Firetree Witchdoctor # 2x (3) Breath of the Infinite # 1x (3) Brightwing # 2x (3) Twilight Acolyte # 2x (4) Duskbreaker # 2x (4) Scaleworm # 2x (5) Azure Drake # 2x (5) Drakonid Operative # 2x (6) Aeon Reaver # 2x (6) Dragonfire Potion # 1x (7) Nozdormu the Eternal # 1x (7) Skeletal Dragon # 1x (8) Murozond the Infinite # 1x (9) Alexstrasza the Life-Binder # 1x (9) Ysera the Dreamer # AAEBAafDAwaOsQPYwgOwigS0igS2igSooAQMuQa6uwLqvwLL5gL86gKJ8QLoiQPyrAOYtgOZtgO4ugPezAMA
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New Tonk? NEW TONK! ### Tonkosaurus # Class: Hunter # Format: Wild # # 2x (1) Flare # 2x (1) Play Dead # 2x (1) Tracking # 2x (2) Bear Trap # 2x (2) Explosive Trap # 2x (2) Feign Death # 2x (2) Mad Scientist # 2x (2) Pack Tactics # 2x (2) Phase Stalker # 2x (2) Pressure Plate # 2x (3) Nine Lives # 1x (3) Teron Gorefiend # 2x (3) Ursatron # 1x (5) Barak Kodobane # 1x (5) Zilliax # 1x (6) Oblivitron # 2x (7) Darkmoon Tonk # AAEBAa/XAwSggAPxlgPUugPl7wMNgAf3DccP0RSczQLylgO2nAOfpQP7rwOkuQOD4gOpnwTjnwQA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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I just ran up against someone playing a Wild Bomb Warrior using Iron Juggernaut, a card I don't think I've ever seen in play before? But they did not accept my friend request after I beat them, despite pulling the 10 damage card it gave me. I just want their list. Are they also running Hakkar, the Soulflayer? I don't know. I feel like they were overall playing some sub-optimal poo poo, but I still want the list. I love and miss Bomb Warrior.
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Mini set rares Some fun cards in here. I assume DH is going to get a big Deathrattle minion to use with Proving Grounds
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Hmm, another "draw a spell" minion to add consistency to my Ignite mage deck.
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Finally! I am done with this game mode! Here are my full stats. Ignore that the top 4s don't add up to 1000, there was a bug for a while where they didn't show up on the mode screen but still registered in the achievement system. (The system says I have 261 1st places, for example.)  This mode has driven me to madness sometimes. Getting great starts only to slam headlong into the super high roller who blows you off the board and into the loss column, or losing every round right up until the board clicks and you proceed to do the same to everyone else. I only managed a perfect game twice. The weird 21-game win streak was a game in which I was in a bugged lobby where nobody else was actually at their keyboard but not disconnected so I decided to have a little fun with it. My highest legit streak was 13 on the second time I got a perfect game. Now I'm grinding Mercs. 
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Navaash posted:Now I'm grinding Mercs. I advise against that until they rework how you get tasks
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RatHat posted:Mini set rares I feel like Druid really, really doesn't need ways to get Celestial Alignment into hand more consistently and yet here we are
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Small thing, but I was still able to pair up vs bots consistently even after 6000 rating, with the same 3 mercs + 3 lowbie setup.
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